Open 321: Kc's FIRE and ICE: Game over.

[killerjester]

@KJ: As one of the people requesting the vote history, are you going to analyze it or wait for other players to do so?

I quoted DavidX moreso for the VC (hadn't had one in the last two pages) than the vote history...so the second one.

Stopped reading Krazy's posts.

What is implied by this bit?

[VisceraEyes]

>Asking the mod to do a vote history


KJ seems to think I am scum for some undisclosed reason, but other than that seems to be the most logical person in the game.

@KJ: As one of the people requesting the vote history, are you going to analyze it or wait for other players to do so?

I think the sarcasm of the "townpoints" comment is clear and that smarg's attacks on it are either misguided or an attempt to grasp at anything that might be construed as scummy.

@David: In regards to congratulating the doctor. There is no evidence that that is consistently the behavior of scum rather than town. Like many tells used in newbie games and on EM, you are using logic that doesn't actually make any sense and only because you saw someone else use it.

Stopped reading Krazy's posts.

VE reminds of DK in that even if he is right, I instinctively shy away from anything he does. The majority of his problems with CSL are nitpicking, but CSL does seem to contradict himself with the rolefishing and middle of the wagon bits. That said, I'm not particularly suspicious of CSL.

I'll figure out whether I want to keep my vote on David next time.

In what way is my problem with CSL nitpicking? Why you soft-defending CSL?

[VisceraEyes]

Also ^5@Cirno for being the last two remaining original players in this game!

[VisceraEyes]

Oh, forgot TF too...^5 @ TF too! If I get up to like 10 games without replacing out, I'll probably keep that as a statistic on my sig lol

[VisceraEyes]

Also, I don't know who DK is...should I be offended?

[Cirno]

>kj
>What is implied by this bit?
That there is no value in continuing to read his megaposts.

>VE
>In what way is my problem with CSL nitpicking?
Basically, I consider nitpicking any kind of complaining about inconsequential things that don't actually logically point to a person being scum. For instance, complaining about CSL saying that hammering without a claim is bad.

>Why you soft-defending CSL?
Like I said, I attack anything I don't like regardless of who that post may be targeting. Also, I have fond memories of CSL trying to talk to players of a game he was modding and inadvertently giving things away in the process.

>Also, I don't know who DK is...should I be offended?
DK cannot be explained. He must be

experienced

. Your time will come.
You are not actually as bad as him.

No, this does not count as 'next time'.

[VisceraEyes]

>VE
>In what way is my problem with CSL nitpicking?
Basically, I consider nitpicking any kind of complaining about inconsequential things that don't actually logically point to a person being scum. For instance, complaining about CSL saying that hammering without a claim is bad.

>Why you soft-defending CSL?
Like I said, I attack anything I don't like regardless of who that post may be targeting. Also, I have fond memories of CSL trying to talk to players of a game he was modding and inadvertently giving things away in the process.

>Also, I don't know who DK is...should I be offended?
DK cannot be explained. He must be

experienced

. Your time will come.
You are not actually as bad as him.

What I have a problem with is the fact that CSL called out Whiskers for "role-fishing" when all he was doing was calling for a claim, which is something CSL had been doing during most of Reab's VLA...I'm not complaining about ANYONE saying that hammering without a claim is bad - which post made you think this is what I was saying?

No, my problem with CSL is her contradictory behavior. It's indicative of an agenda.

[Cirno]

I'm referring to 645, where you attack all sorts of things that don't really warrant it. I

do

understand the parts about CSL contradicting himself.

[VisceraEyes]

Just so we're clear. My quote-wall of CSL was more like 'My thoughts while reading her ISO' than an actual case. I wasn't trying to indicate that all the quotes I posted were scummy, and I apologize if that's how it came across. I only find CSL's behavior surrounding Whiskers' lynch and her explanations of said behavior since. It's all been scummy as hell to me.

[Kcdaspot]

Beuller?

[smargaret]

Cirno - it's less that the townpoints comment is scummy, and more that the behavior was scummy and the townpoints rationalization looks like kj's flailing around after getting caught trying to appear town.

[Klazam]

Shit, something came up/.

v/la until monday

sorry for being inactive so far. Promise, I'll make it up upon my return.

[Krazy]

I will be

LA

this weekend due to a tournament.

I'm having trouble staying interested in this game with the wagon on TF dying. I'm not going to resort to spamming OBVSCUM but I don't know what else to say on that that I haven't said already. Just read his iso people.

CSL is scummy but there are orders of magnitude difference between the two.

[killerjester]

Cirno - it's less that the townpoints comment is scummy, and more that the behavior was scummy and the townpoints rationalization looks like kj's flailing around after getting caught trying to appear town.

Don't you agree that scum searching for townpoints would be a

little more

inconspicuous about it? That honestly the last I'm saying on the matter. If you think I should hang by the neck until dead for a joke then we don't exactly see eye to eye, but as long as you aren't convincing everyone else of such let's pretend to play the rest of the game together because I really don't think you are scum.

What do you think of my case on Krazy?

[Toon Fighter]

I will be

LA

this weekend due to a tournament.

I'm having trouble staying interested in this game with the wagon on TF dying. I'm not going to resort to spamming OBVSCUM but I don't know what else to say on that that I haven't said already. Just read his iso people.

CSL is scummy but there are orders of magnitude difference between the two.

Boohoo my wagon isn't growing, I'm gonna quit, whaaaa... [/sarcasm]

[killerjester]

CSL is scummy but there are orders of magnitude difference between the two.

is a terrible reason to be upset with the CSL wagon, by the way

I'm not really gonna push for the lynch of the V/LA guy. Not when CSL is a great candidate.

UNVOTE: Krazy
VOTE: CSL

FoS

: Krazy

[Kcdaspot]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

CSL

- 4 - ViscaraEyes, Reab, Toon Fighter, killerjester - (L-2)

David Xanthos

- 1 - Cirno - (L-5)

killerjester

- 1 - smargaret - (L-5)

Krazy

- 1 - CSL - (L-5)

Toon Fighter

- 3 - Klazam, David Xanthos, Krazy - (L-3)

Players not voting:

None

Deadline: September the 10th, 2011 at 3:00 PM Central time.

(expired on 2011-09-10 15:00:00)

Klazam's and Krazy's V/las are noted.

[Reab]

Meh why do we have V/LAs again :/

[David Xanatos]

Don't like Krazy's attempted deflection.. "oh sure, CSL is scummy but TF is way more scummy!".. gonna ISO both again, take a look at the cases again.

[Krazy]

It's also the case that TF and VE are on that wagon, and both seem way too enthusiastic about it. The only ones I can see as CSL's partners at this point are Klazam and Cirno. I suppose a Cirno/CSL team does make sense, but TF is still strictly speaking the better lynch today.

David, reread isos all you want, but all you did was sheep Klazam both yesterday and today. Do you now think TF isn't scummy? Did you ever actually think he was?

[CSL]

Unvote; Vote: TF

[killerjester]

Krazy and CSL, who are TF's likely partners?

[VisceraEyes]

CSL is getting more and more scum-points in my book. Randomly changing votes, crappy posts, repeatedly stating Krazy as town. I'd prefer to see (him~? her?) lynched and then go to Krazy, as I see CSL as more likely scum at the moment.

unvote, vote: CSL

In what way does this post seem enthusiastic to you? It seems like he's just more convinced that CSL is scum than he is you are...how is that 'way too enthusiastic'? And how does the fact that we're on the same wagon 'connect' us in any way? If you want to fabricate some kind of connection, at least back it up with some kind of evidence.

[VisceraEyes]

KJ, you're on the CSL wagon. Does your FoS of Krazy indicate that you think he might be CSL's partner? Or do you think they're on opposing factions?

[Krazy]

In what way does this post seem enthusiastic to you?

It's enthusiastic because it's putting CSL at L-1, not saying he's putting CSL at L-1, and seems to be totally fine seeing him lynched. That's pretty enthusiastic as far as I'm concerned.