Open 329: Mayo Clinic D3: Town WINS!

[GreyICE]

UNVOTE: neil1113

I don't want to be part of this wagon. Under other circumstances I might have supported it, but GreyICE's extreme scumminess overrides it. Nothing he's said works how he wants us to think it does, his logic is flawed, his questions are leading, and his random outbursts are causing us massive problems.

VOTE: GreyICE

Okay Izak, since you're not scum.

Name three things that don't work like I say they do.

Chop chop, Izak.


I'll make you a deal Izak. He flips SK, vig me. He flips mafia goon, we take out you. He flips mafia doctor, we take out you a thomith.

How does this sound, Izak?

[whispersilk]

I believe neil. There is no logic behind scum claiming SK, and I think we should use him tonight. Also, don't vig me ffs. I know I've been absent, but that doens't make me scum. I've been AWOL in all 3 of my current games, but I'm on vacation now, so I can be back to my usual posty self. We should vig someone scummy.

[Thomith]

I like the compromise but do you have any proof that me and izak are buddies? It is all well and good having a compromise but if the players you are compromising cant be proved as a scumteam before the flip then it is flawed.

[glowball]

I believe neil. There is no logic behind scum claiming SK, and I think we should use him tonight. Also, don't vig me ffs. I know I've been absent, but that doens't make me scum. I've been AWOL in all 3 of my current games, but I'm on vacation now, so I can be back to my usual posty self. We should vig someone scummy.

BE USEFUL

You come in and you are less than useful. If you are AWOL in all of those games maybe you should consider not playing.

Also, there is TONS of logic behind scum claiming SK- it happens a lot.

[Thomith]

scum claim SK so their factions kill is directed by town, if they don't they lose a member, and if neil is fakeclaiming which is utterly stupid might i add, then the vigs shoot him and get a scum kill, how is that a wasted vig?

[glowball]

scum claim SK so their factions kill is directed by town, if they don't they lose a member, and if neil is fakeclaiming which is utterly stupid might i add, then the vigs shoot him and get a scum kill, how is that a wasted vig?

You are assuming that we will be directing Neil to shoot scum. THAT IS THE GOAL, but will we always be spot on?! Chances are night one we'll be wrong about who we all can agree on to vig. Neil has sufficiently gained all of the attention pulling attention away from any potential scum buddies. Confident scum(very rarely flailing scum) pull these fake claiming SK moves because they don't think that there is any chance that their partners will be the vig targets.

[BBmolla]

We're not vigging Piggy.

Also, scummiest players should be protecting the vigs. This'll force scum to kill scummy players, helping us.

[Maruchan]

BB is confirmed vig bro, he isn't scum unless final vig is being silent for no good reason.

Failed. I meant Maruchan.

You mean the one pushing for keeping you alive and using you?

And I am being grouped with lurkerscum now because I have to spend 8 hours at school?

[Maruchan]

Ohand I am starting page28 but the bell is about to ring.

Will readthe rest later.

unvote

I thought i unvoted him awhile ago

[whispersilk]

I believe neil. There is no logic behind scum claiming SK, and I think we should use him tonight. Also, don't vig me ffs. I know I've been absent, but that doens't make me scum. I've been AWOL in all 3 of my current games, but I'm on vacation now, so I can be back to my usual posty self. We should vig someone scummy.

BE USEFUL

You come in and you are less than useful. If you are AWOL in all of those games maybe you should consider not playing.

Also, there is TONS of logic behind scum claiming SK- it happens a lot.

Irony.

[glowball]

We're not vigging Piggy.

Also, scummiest players should be protecting the vigs. This'll force scum to kill scummy players, helping us.

Okay so besides vigging Piggy what did you think of the protects?

I think that offering myself up with no protection, also having GreyICE unprotected as well as Thomith and Quilford on protecting vigs is best.

Who do you want vigged again?

NINJA'D

Don't be ridiculous. I was against the plan, but ANY activity is more helpful than NO activity at least when I flip people will have information. The same cannot be said for you Whispersilk.

[whispersilk]

BB is confirmed vig bro, he isn't scum unless final vig is being silent for no good reason.

Failed. I meant Maruchan.

You mean the one pushing for keeping you alive and using you?

And I am being grouped with lurkerscum now because I have to spend 8 hours at school?

Apparently if we don't come into the game and create e-drama, then we are scum.

[glowball]

Now you are twisting things Whispersilk. You aren't scum, you are just unhelpful which can equate to scum but mostly you are just good vigbait.

[Thomith]

i am up for the plan glow posted.

Where did i say i was?

well BB?

[glowball]

THIS PLAN IS BEST IMO-- THE VIG BAIT CAN BE ADJUSTED, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PIGGY BUT I THINK THE 4 DOCTORS PROTECTING THE VIGS ARE PERFECT.

Lynch Neil.

GreyICE is not vigbait, he's useful in his own annoying way.

Two doctor's on both vigs= 4 doctors

BBMolla
Quoaroth

given this plan scum will just be able to kill doctors unless they want to out themselves. so it needs to be done strategically.

BBMolla should be protected by: Myself and Quilford
Quaroth should be protected by: Thomith and GreyICE

Remaining "Doctors"
Izak
PiggyGal
Whispersilk
VitaminR
Maruchan

Izak protects VitaminR
VitaminR protects Whispersilk
Whispersilk protects Maruchan
Maruchan protects Izak

Vig: PiggyGal

Scum will only be able to kill Quilford, GreyICE, Thomith, or Myself because we are the only ones not included in the train because we double protect the vigs.

[Thomith]

if people are anxious about the people not being protected (if any) then the doctor train can be adjusted but i prefer glows version of the plan.

[GreyICE]

I still prefer randomness. We're never going to prevent a scum kill that way, and if Neil isn't the SK (likely) then we're looking at 2-3 dead town tomorrow.

That's not where I want to be.

Let doctors protect as they wish

[Thomith]

if we do decide to let doctors protect as we wish i want to keep the following aspect of the plan the same,

the doctors assigned to vigs protect those vigs and remain unprotected.

[Thomith]

and of course the vig kill remains unprotected also.

[whispersilk]

@glow And as for being useful, it's pretty difficult to walk into a game a couples of days late, and face a town that is being dominated and pretty much being told exactly what to do by just 2 people, both of whom are aggressive and rude, and bent on having things their way.

I'm a doctor, but hey, if everyone has to follow

your

way of thinking, and

your

decisions, then go ahead and vig me.

Or, you can stop being so arrogant and accept the fact that here now, and I am a good town player.

[glowball]

I still prefer randomness. We're never going to prevent a scum kill that way, and if Neil isn't the SK (likely) then we're looking at 2-3 dead town tomorrow.

That's not where I want to be.

Let doctors protect as they wish

Ok, so you want double protects on the vigs but then let the rest of the doctors do what they want? Realistically we are looking at 2 dead no matter what. Whoever we want vigged, plus scum shot.

NINJA'D
Whisper- I DO NOT KNOW THAT YOU ARE A GOOD PLAYER..you've spent more time bitching about me and the game than contributing anything useful.

[GreyICE]

2 scum shots. I still don't believe Neil is flipping SK.

[glowball]

You don't need to insult me either, I don't tolerate it. I am not being arrogant I am being honest- do something besides argue with me that phase of the game is over. Sorry you missed it, it was lovely. You might be town, but one way or the other you aren't helping and I really have no reason to believe you aren't scum.

[glowball]

2 scum shots. I still don't believe Neil is flipping SK.

Okay, well we are looking at more than one death tomorrow. Although I get why you want the protects random, that way they don't know who to pick, but I think it's fairly obvious who people will choose to protect all they have to do is aim for the inactive or scummiest or less noticed of the group.

[whispersilk]

Is there a plan to do any actual scum hunting, or is the sole plan the one you're all talking about?