NY139: Underground Mafia (Game over!)

[sorgster]

Vote:TAA

He hasn't done much other than attack me.

[redFF]

VOTE: sorgster

we've had 2 idiot townies distract us from him so far but today we are lynching this mafia hedgehog.

[trekker]

We are not tunneling on sorgster again today.

[redFF]

WHY NOT

[trekker]

Because I doubt he's scum based on his play. Please find someone else to lynch. Preferably Stringer Bell.

[redFF]

if you can give me reasoning as to why sorgster isn't scum then i will unvote him.

[Vifam]

His play is way too spradic, and since D1 he's been throwing votes out everywhere, which is not something scum usually do.

[Hiraki]

Do you guys mind if I stay back and watch this play out and hop on BWs when I want?

Thanks.

[Stringer Bell]

Do you guys mind if I stay back and watch this play out and hop on BWs when I want?

Thanks.

sarcasm?

[StevieT92]

lolwut hiraki

[trekker]

No problems here.

[TheAwesomeAll]

VOTE: eep
http://mafiascum.net/forum/search.php?s ... 0&start=25

[trekker]

Which post are you talking about in particular?

[TheAwesomeAll]

the ones that are wishy washy, overly cautious, apologetic, and generally avoiding the game. I recommend page 1 as well for the more defensive posts.

[Hiraki]

Yeah that reminds me.

Vote: StevieT92

[AntB]

I love awesomewm... anyhoo.

D1

Vifam -> trekker -> RVS
trekker -> paraffin -> RVS

uncledapne

-> Vifam -> RVS
redFF ->

Nunez

-> RVS
Stringer Bell ->

uncledapne

-> RVS

uncledapne

-> Stringer Bell -> OMGUS/RVS
redFF ->

uncledapne

-> RVS/Get an avatar
Gaylord Focker -> eep -> RVS
eep ->

Nunez

-> RVS
Daybid -> Gaylord Focker -> RVS
sorgster -> AntB -> RVS
paraffin ->

Nunez

-> RVS
trekker -> RedFF -> RVS
TheAwesomeAll -> sorgster -> RVS
sorgster -> TheAwesomeAll -> No sense (RVS Breaker.)
TheAwesomeAll -> sorgster -> 1: revote
Vifam -> sorgster -> 2: "Scum Caught"
eep -> sorgster -> 3: ???
TheRainMan -> Uprising -> RVS
paraffin -> Vifam -> 1: Poor hunting

uncledapne

-> Vifam -> 2: Overreaction

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 1 (sorgster)
Vifam - 2 (paraffin,

uncledapne

)
redFF - 1 (trekker)
Uprising - 1 (TheRainMan)
sorgster - 2 (TheAwesomeAll, Vifam)
TheAwesomeAll - 1 (sorgster)

uncledapne

- 2 (Stringer Bell, redFF)
Gaylord Focker - 1 (Daybid)
eep - 1 (Gaylord Focker)
--END COUNT--

David Xanatos

-> Vifam -> Aggressive vifam is scum
trekker -> paraffin -> Apparent chainsaw
paraffin ->

Mysterio

-> Spectating
trekker -> sorgster -> Better lynch
paraffin ->

uncledapne

-> Buddying and not hunting
Vifam ->

uncledapne

-> Agrees with paraffin

uncledapne

-> paraffin -> OMGUS
eep ->

uncledapne

-> For all the OMGUS

uncledapne

-> Vifam -> Obvious reasons
trekker ->

uncledapne

-> ???
(Sorgster makes a vote but it isn't bolded, so I assume it isn't counted)
redFF ->

uncledapne

-> scumslip
sorgster ->

uncledapne

-> scumslip

Mysterio

->

uncledapne

-> ???
Stringer Bell ->

uncledapne

-> Defending sorg (Note: Post content would indicate a sorgster vote over an

uncledapne

vote)
sorgster -> trekker -> Sheeping Vifam

--VOTE COUNT--
Vifam - 2 (

David Xanatos

,

uncledapne

)
Uprising - 1 (TheRainMan)
sorgster - 1 (TheAwesomeAll)

uncledapne

- 7 (Stringer Bell, paraffin, Vifam, eep, trekker, redFF,

Mysterio

) (L-3)
Gaylord Focker - 1 (Daybid)
eep - 1 (Gaylord Focker)
trekker - 1 (sorgster)
--END COUNT--

trekker ->

uncledapne

-> revote
sorgster ->

uncledapne

-> revote

David Xanatos

->

uncledapne

-> "Curious"
TheAwesomeAll ->

uncledapne

-> ???

D1 Analysis

RedFF kept an RVS vote on through and didn't provide much until near the end.
Vifam, trekker and redFF are my top scumreads from D1.

Replacments: Gaylord Focker = Hiraki | Nihilisticninja = nocase

D2

Vifam ->

David Xanatos

-> The "Curious" vote.
Vifam -> ??? -> ???
sorgster -> AntB -> Hasn't posted
eep -> Vifam -> Agressive but not firm enough
TheRainMan -> Vifam -> Attacking for reasons which aren't scummy
Stringer Bell -> AntB -> Non-commital
redFF -> TheAwesomeAll -> Looks like he knew daphne was town and setting up a lynch
sorgster -> TheAwesomeAll -> TAA claimed vig in the signup threads and also attempted to chain lynch me

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 1 (Stringer Bell)
Vifam - 2 (eep, therainman)
TheAwesomeAll - 3 (Vifam, redff, sorgster)
--END COUNT--

sorgster ->

Nunez

-> Fluff poster
Hiraki ->

Nunez

-> ???
TheAwesomeAll -> sorgster -> Weak pressuring and all over the place.
eep -> TheAwesomeAll -> Oppotunistic
StevieT92 -> sorgster -> Not wagoning, weak reasons and covering his ass saying he overreacted

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 1 (Stringer Bell)
Vifam - 1 (TheRainMan)

Nunez

- 2 (sorgster, Hiraki)
sorgster - 2 (TheAwesomeAll, StevieT92)
TheAwesomeAll - 3 (Vifam, RedFF, eep)
--END COUNT--

trekker -> Stringer Bell -> ???
Uprising -> AntB -> Scummiest at that point.
eep -> eep -> Something cool will happen

David Xanatos

-> eep -> Interested
sorgster -> eep -> cool thing
eep -> TheRainMan -> Provided nothing new, only defended people

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 2 (Stringer Bell, Uprising)
Vifam - 1 (TheRainMan)

Nunez

- 1 (Hiraki)
sorgster - 2 (TheAwesomeAll, StevieT92)
TheRainMan - 1 (eep)
TheAwesomeAll - 2 (Vifam, RedFF)
Stinger Bell - 1 (trekker)
eep - 2 (

David Xanatos

, sorgster)
--END COUNT--

Daybid -> sorgster -> Scummy bandwagoner
nocase ->

David Xanatos

-> Scummy on the uncledaphne wagon
Hiraki ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
redFF -> sorgster -> ???
eep ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
sorgster ->

Nunez

-> Done nothing
Hirkai -> TheRainMan -> Something isn't right
eep -> TheRainMan -> Arguing against TheRainMans claim that a

Nunez

flip will give us nothing.

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 1 (Stringer Bell)
Vifam - 1 (TheRainMan)

David Xanatos

- 1 (nocase)
sorgster - 4 (TheAwesomeAll, StevieT92, Daybid, RedFF)
TheRainMan - 2 (Hiraki, eep)
TheAwesomeAll - 1 (Vifam)
Stinger Bell - 1 (trekker)
eep - 1 (

David Xanatos

)
--END COUNT--

David Xanatos

-> trekker -> Do some work
Vifam ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
AntB ->

David Xanatos

-> One liners and fluffier than cotton
sorgster -> TheAwesomeAll -> Most suspisious on uncledaphne wagon

--VOTE COUNT--
Vifam - 1 (TheRainMan)

David Xanatos

- 3 (nocase, Vifam, AntB)
sorgster - 4 (TheAwesomeAll, StevieT92, Daybid, RedFF)
TheRainMan - 2 (Hiraki, eep)
TheAwesomeAll - 1 (sorgster)
Stinger Bell - 1 (trekker)
trekker - 1 (

David Xanatos

)
--END COUNT--

eep ->

David Xanatos

-> Relying on meta and distracting
sorgster -> trekker -> Sheeping Vifam
Stringer Bell -> AntB -> Blatently hiding things
redFF -> AntB -> ???

David Xanatos

->

David Xanatos

-> Self Vote - Come at me bro
Vifam -> AntB -> ???
StevieT92 ->

David Xanatos

-> Obvious scum gambit
redFF ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
sorgster ->

David Xanatos

-> Self-voting

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 2 (Stringer Bell, Vifam)
Vifam - 1 (TheRainMan)

David Xanatos

- 7 (nocase, AntB, eep,

David Xanatos

, StevieT92, redFF, sorgster) (L-2)
sorgster - 2 (TheAwesomeAll, Daybid)
TheRainMan - 1 (Hiraki)
Stinger Bell - 1 (trekker)
--END COUNT--

Vifam ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
Vifam -> AntB -> ???
Hiraki ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
eep ->

David Xanatos

-> Case presented in #642
Vifam ->

David Xanatos

-> Thats the hammer

D2 Analysis

Wow. Lots of votes I can't see any immediate reasons for
Vifam comes out of this screaming "I'M SCUM AND I CAN PLAY YOU ALL LIKE AN OLD FIDDLE".
trekker seems to have all but vanished, redFF still comes off as scum and I have an eye on nocase after this.

----

Vifam at this point is so obvscum to me its untrue. VOTE: Vifam. The play style, all over the place votes and over-aggressive attacks and comments,

[Hiraki]

Nope.

Vifam is town this game.

[Vifam]

Vifam at this point is so obvscum to me its untrue. VOTE: Vifam. The play style, all over the place votes and over-aggressive attacks and comments,

None of those are scumtells.


And I have not been over aggressive at all, in my opinion, but Okay.

[eep]

the ones that are wishy washy, overly cautious, apologetic, and generally avoiding the game. I recommend page 1 as well for the more defensive posts.

so maybe I am not the best judge but I'm pretty sure this describes the opposite of most of my play style.

[Vifam]

Vifam -> AntB -> ???

I like how you didn't post the case I typed out on you, making it seem as if I've had no reasoning.


In fact, I think I've had reasoning for just about all of my votes. You seem to ignore, like, all of it in your vote analysis.

[redFF]

I love awesomewm... anyhoo.

D1

Vifam -> trekker -> RVS
trekker -> paraffin -> RVS

uncledapne

-> Vifam -> RVS
redFF ->

Nunez

-> RVS
Stringer Bell ->

uncledapne

-> RVS

uncledapne

-> Stringer Bell -> OMGUS/RVS
redFF ->

uncledapne

-> RVS/Get an avatar
Gaylord Focker -> eep -> RVS
eep ->

Nunez

-> RVS
Daybid -> Gaylord Focker -> RVS
sorgster -> AntB -> RVS
paraffin ->

Nunez

-> RVS
trekker -> RedFF -> RVS
TheAwesomeAll -> sorgster -> RVS
sorgster -> TheAwesomeAll -> No sense (RVS Breaker.)
TheAwesomeAll -> sorgster -> 1: revote
Vifam -> sorgster -> 2: "Scum Caught"
eep -> sorgster -> 3: ???
TheRainMan -> Uprising -> RVS
paraffin -> Vifam -> 1: Poor hunting

uncledapne

-> Vifam -> 2: Overreaction

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 1 (sorgster)
Vifam - 2 (paraffin,

uncledapne

)
redFF - 1 (trekker)
Uprising - 1 (TheRainMan)
sorgster - 2 (TheAwesomeAll, Vifam)
TheAwesomeAll - 1 (sorgster)

uncledapne

- 2 (Stringer Bell, redFF)
Gaylord Focker - 1 (Daybid)
eep - 1 (Gaylord Focker)
--END COUNT--

David Xanatos

-> Vifam -> Aggressive vifam is scum
trekker -> paraffin -> Apparent chainsaw
paraffin ->

Mysterio

-> Spectating
trekker -> sorgster -> Better lynch
paraffin ->

uncledapne

-> Buddying and not hunting
Vifam ->

uncledapne

-> Agrees with paraffin

uncledapne

-> paraffin -> OMGUS
eep ->

uncledapne

-> For all the OMGUS

uncledapne

-> Vifam -> Obvious reasons
trekker ->

uncledapne

-> ???
(Sorgster makes a vote but it isn't bolded, so I assume it isn't counted)
redFF ->

uncledapne

-> scumslip
sorgster ->

uncledapne

-> scumslip

Mysterio

->

uncledapne

-> ???
Stringer Bell ->

uncledapne

-> Defending sorg (Note: Post content would indicate a sorgster vote over an

uncledapne

vote)
sorgster -> trekker -> Sheeping Vifam

--VOTE COUNT--
Vifam - 2 (

David Xanatos

,

uncledapne

)
Uprising - 1 (TheRainMan)
sorgster - 1 (TheAwesomeAll)

uncledapne

- 7 (Stringer Bell, paraffin, Vifam, eep, trekker, redFF,

Mysterio

) (L-3)
Gaylord Focker - 1 (Daybid)
eep - 1 (Gaylord Focker)
trekker - 1 (sorgster)
--END COUNT--

trekker ->

uncledapne

-> revote
sorgster ->

uncledapne

-> revote

David Xanatos

->

uncledapne

-> "Curious"
TheAwesomeAll ->

uncledapne

-> ???

D1 Analysis

RedFF kept an RVS vote on through and didn't provide much until near the end.
Vifam, trekker and redFF are my top scumreads from D1.

Replacments: Gaylord Focker = Hiraki | Nihilisticninja = nocase

D2

Vifam ->

David Xanatos

-> The "Curious" vote.
Vifam -> ??? -> ???
sorgster -> AntB -> Hasn't posted
eep -> Vifam -> Agressive but not firm enough
TheRainMan -> Vifam -> Attacking for reasons which aren't scummy
Stringer Bell -> AntB -> Non-commital
redFF -> TheAwesomeAll -> Looks like he knew daphne was town and setting up a lynch
sorgster -> TheAwesomeAll -> TAA claimed vig in the signup threads and also attempted to chain lynch me

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 1 (Stringer Bell)
Vifam - 2 (eep, therainman)
TheAwesomeAll - 3 (Vifam, redff, sorgster)
--END COUNT--

sorgster ->

Nunez

-> Fluff poster
Hiraki ->

Nunez

-> ???
TheAwesomeAll -> sorgster -> Weak pressuring and all over the place.
eep -> TheAwesomeAll -> Oppotunistic
StevieT92 -> sorgster -> Not wagoning, weak reasons and covering his ass saying he overreacted

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 1 (Stringer Bell)
Vifam - 1 (TheRainMan)

Nunez

- 2 (sorgster, Hiraki)
sorgster - 2 (TheAwesomeAll, StevieT92)
TheAwesomeAll - 3 (Vifam, RedFF, eep)
--END COUNT--

trekker -> Stringer Bell -> ???
Uprising -> AntB -> Scummiest at that point.
eep -> eep -> Something cool will happen

David Xanatos

-> eep -> Interested
sorgster -> eep -> cool thing
eep -> TheRainMan -> Provided nothing new, only defended people

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 2 (Stringer Bell, Uprising)
Vifam - 1 (TheRainMan)

Nunez

- 1 (Hiraki)
sorgster - 2 (TheAwesomeAll, StevieT92)
TheRainMan - 1 (eep)
TheAwesomeAll - 2 (Vifam, RedFF)
Stinger Bell - 1 (trekker)
eep - 2 (

David Xanatos

, sorgster)
--END COUNT--

Daybid -> sorgster -> Scummy bandwagoner
nocase ->

David Xanatos

-> Scummy on the uncledaphne wagon
Hiraki ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
redFF -> sorgster -> ???
eep ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
sorgster ->

Nunez

-> Done nothing
Hirkai -> TheRainMan -> Something isn't right
eep -> TheRainMan -> Arguing against TheRainMans claim that a

Nunez

flip will give us nothing.

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 1 (Stringer Bell)
Vifam - 1 (TheRainMan)

David Xanatos

- 1 (nocase)
sorgster - 4 (TheAwesomeAll, StevieT92, Daybid, RedFF)
TheRainMan - 2 (Hiraki, eep)
TheAwesomeAll - 1 (Vifam)
Stinger Bell - 1 (trekker)
eep - 1 (

David Xanatos

)
--END COUNT--

David Xanatos

-> trekker -> Do some work
Vifam ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
AntB ->

David Xanatos

-> One liners and fluffier than cotton
sorgster -> TheAwesomeAll -> Most suspisious on uncledaphne wagon

--VOTE COUNT--
Vifam - 1 (TheRainMan)

David Xanatos

- 3 (nocase, Vifam, AntB)
sorgster - 4 (TheAwesomeAll, StevieT92, Daybid, RedFF)
TheRainMan - 2 (Hiraki, eep)
TheAwesomeAll - 1 (sorgster)
Stinger Bell - 1 (trekker)
trekker - 1 (

David Xanatos

)
--END COUNT--

eep ->

David Xanatos

-> Relying on meta and distracting
sorgster -> trekker -> Sheeping Vifam
Stringer Bell -> AntB -> Blatently hiding things
redFF -> AntB -> ???

David Xanatos

->

David Xanatos

-> Self Vote - Come at me bro
Vifam -> AntB -> ???
StevieT92 ->

David Xanatos

-> Obvious scum gambit
redFF ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
sorgster ->

David Xanatos

-> Self-voting

--VOTE COUNT--
AntB - 2 (Stringer Bell, Vifam)
Vifam - 1 (TheRainMan)

David Xanatos

- 7 (nocase, AntB, eep,

David Xanatos

, StevieT92, redFF, sorgster) (L-2)
sorgster - 2 (TheAwesomeAll, Daybid)
TheRainMan - 1 (Hiraki)
Stinger Bell - 1 (trekker)
--END COUNT--

Vifam ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
Vifam -> AntB -> ???
Hiraki ->

David Xanatos

-> ???
eep ->

David Xanatos

-> Case presented in #642
Vifam ->

David Xanatos

-> Thats the hammer

D2 Analysis

Wow. Lots of votes I can't see any immediate reasons for
Vifam comes out of this screaming "I'M SCUM AND I CAN PLAY YOU ALL LIKE AN OLD FIDDLE".
trekker seems to have all but vanished, redFF still comes off as scum and I have an eye on nocase after this.

----

Vifam at this point is so obvscum to me its untrue. VOTE: Vifam. The play style, all over the place votes and over-aggressive attacks and comments,

POINTLESS POST TO LOOK LIKE YOU'RE CONTRIBUTING.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ANTB

[AntB]

If there's no reason given then I can't immediatly see it. Some are revotes which I forgot to alter actually.

And your ISO case on me was pointless as you didn't even follow it with a vote until today.


@redFF
Actually, people can get a lot of information from who voted when.

@Hiraki
Vifam isn't town dude, if he's town I'm a 3rd party treestump survivor.

[Vifam]

How does me not attaching a vote make it pointless?



Weather or not you voted, it's reasoning that YOU are scum.


And you've never brought anything to put on the table that proves I am scum. Other then "Lol he's aggresive" which is dumb.


Come back when you build an ACTUAL case.

[sorgster]

AntB is a treestump? I think he seems more like 3rd party or scum.

Unvote
Vote AntB

[trekker]

None of my posts are RVs, because RVS doesn't exist.