NY139: Underground Mafia (Game over!)

[trekker]

722
1) Reads are dynamic. I thought Sorgster was just fucking dumb but now I've changed my mind.

2) I told you why Stringer Bell is scum already.

3) I am the best player.

[sorgster]

The way antb mentioned treestump is strange. Also vifam posts way too much and actively scumhunts. It seems very likely that vifam is town.

I wonder how such a small post like that can change an opinion so quickly. I wonder how that changes me from town to scum at once.

[trekker]

Because it's the third and final straw. I'm not going to put up with your wagontesting anymore.

[redFF]

been saying it for 3 days
UNVOTE:
VOTE: sorgster

[Vifam]

Uh


This is a dumb wagon.

[Hiraki]

I think he seems more like 3rd party or scum.

Town don't say this.

Especially dumbtown.

Here's the only real VCA analysis right now.

uncledaphne

- 10 (Stringer Bell,

paraffin

,

Vifam

,

eep

,

redFF

,

Mysterio

, trekker,

sorgster

,

David Xanatos

, TheAwesomeAll) (L-0)

David Xanatos

- 9 (nocase, AntB,

David Xanatos

, StevieT92,

redFF

,

sorgster

, Hiraki,

eep

,

Vifam

) (Lynch)


I'm aware that there could be townies on both wagons, but I'm doubtful of it.

I really want to lynch of the italics. Again, I can't see Vifam as scum at this point, and I'm not liking redFF or Sorgster. Eep sits with Vifam as well but I'm not as sure.

[Hiraki]

Unvote

Ugh.

That RedFF vote.

Vote: RedFF

This is scum.

I'm sure of it.

[redFF]

tell me why. I pretty much led the uncledaphne lynch with the only analysis posted on him. Tell me why im mafia.

[implosion]

Vote Count 3.1

AntB - 3 (Vifam, sorgster, Uprising)
Vifam - 1 (AntB)
redFF - 1 (Hiraki)
Uprising
sorgster - 2 (trekker, redFF)
StevieT92
TheRainMan
Daybid
nocase
TheAwesomeAll
Stinger Bell
Hiraki
eep - 1 (TheAwesomeAll)
trekker
Not voting - 6 (StevieT92, TheRainMan, Daybid, nocase, Stringer Bell, eep)

With 14 alive, 8 votes are required to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2011-09-25 17:00:00).

If you

ever

notice a mistake that I've made with the votecount (or elsewhere) don't hesitate to tell me.

[Daybid]

Sorry for being away going was away for vacation this weekend. Give me a day to catch up.

[StevieT92]

I have town on Vifam, Trekker, Hiraki, and yes, Sorgster.

Right now I have as scum RedFF and AntB. As weak scum TAA, nocase, and eep. AntB has the largest wagon therefore I'm going to

Vote: AntB

[trekker]

You don't think Stringer Bell is suspect at all, Hiraki?
I'm pretty frustrated that people are ignoring sorgster's wagontesting and his... "defense".

[redFF]

since nobody is providing an analysis on me, I will do one myself.

could you non-avatared people get avatars please!!!!!!!

First notable post of the game, asks people for avatars.

My reads are:
Village:
Trekker
Eep
Scum:
Vifam
Redff

any scumreads?

notice how even tho he listed scumreads, I still asked for them? Looks like careless mafia to me.

....you getting votes is ALWAYS your fault, no exception. You got votes because you look scummy. If you are town you failed because you failed to establish your townieness sufficiently and if you are scum you failed because you got found out. If there are votes on you then you are the problem not town.

justifying leading a bandwagon on an obvious townie

Honestly that guy was ridiculously scummy, that was dumb T.T. Looks like i might have to

guard

myself from some attacks today.

feigning surprise at the townie's flip.

SOMEONE WHO NEIGBORIZES YOU

Trying to look like I am contributing by helping to find out what a neighborizer is, but if you look carefully YOU CAN SEE IM JUST SPAMMING.


finally the worst post of all

thanks david xanatos and uncledaphne, for playing ridiculously scummy and putting town at a disadvantage.

I thank them for putting town at a disadvantage!

I have concluded that I am in fact

scum

there more analysis in one post then any of you sorry fucks have done all game.

gg no re.

[TheAwesomeAll]

that last post 661 was really scummy. im not sure what the intention of your post was though, whatever it was dont be wishy washy about it and vote for redFF if you think hes scum

[trekker]

redFF was that an attempt to towntell

[AntB]

yeah he does that a lot...

@Uprising
And you're telling me redFF isn't posting strange compared to what we know of him?

[Hiraki]

Unvote, Vote: RedFF

That was a total over-reaction.

[Hiraki]

You don't think Stringer Bell is suspect at all, Hiraki?
I'm pretty frustrated that people are ignoring sorgster's wagontesting and his... "defense".

Eehregele

He's technically scummy, but I don't think he's scum. Gut over brain in this situation.

[AntB]

Vifam in brief
Has spent more time attacking players based on others evidence and dismissed all attempts to form a wagon on him.
Has linked himself in with trekker and redFF throughout the game.
Look at the voting pattern near the close of D2.

• Vifam -> David Xanatos -> The "Curious" vote.
  
• Vifam -> TheRainMan -> ???
  
• Vifam -> David Xanatos -> ???
  
• Vifam -> AntB -> ???
  
• Vifam -> David Xanatos -> ???
  
• Vifam -> AntB -> ???
  
• Vifam -> David Xanatos -> Thats the hammer

Blatently hammers David Xanatos, is present on both lynch wagons pushing the "He's an idiot" angle, pushing sorgster for being and idiot and is now seemingly trying to push it on me as well. Vifam screams of pushing easy mislynches.

More later.

Fixed list tags.

[AntB]

@Implosion/mod -> Fix that for me please.

[sorgster]

Vifam in brief
Has spent more time attacking players based on others evidence and dismissed all attempts to form a wagon on him.
Has linked himself in with trekker and redFF throughout the game.
Look at the voting pattern near the close of D2.

• Vifam -> David Xanatos -> The "Curious" vote.
  
• Vifam -> TheRainMan -> ???
  
• Vifam -> David Xanatos -> ???
  
• Vifam -> AntB -> ???
  
• Vifam -> David Xanatos -> ???
  
• Vifam -> AntB -> ???
  
• Vifam -> David Xanatos -> Thats the hammer
  

Blatently hammers David Xanatos, is present on both lynch wagons pushing the "He's an idiot" angle, pushing sorgster for being and idiot and is now seemingly trying to push it on me as well. Vifam screams of pushing easy mislynches.

More later.[/quote]

Xanatos was dead either way. He decided to defeat himself.

[AntB]

That isn't the point. David probably knew Vifam set his death and accepted it.

[sorgster]

But it wasn't vifam that pushed him to the self voting point. At that point, he had already given up.

[AntB]

#1 - Votes trekker -- Note how the two are practically up each others arses for the rest of the game after this btw.
#2 - Votes sorgster -- "Scum caught, you're welcome" - No reasoning given, nothing else at all.
#3 - sorgsters reation reeks of scum, apparently.
#5 - "Scum is still scum" -- How true.. and a "this post is scummy."
Nothing considerable has been built up on sorgster, the case from Vifam is essentially a vote then a build-it-as-you-go.
#6 - Attacks for lack of basic reading comprehension - can't even spell properly.
#10 - Tells sorgster to look at his vote.
#11 - Claims sorgsters vote was the result of a guilty conscience.
#12 - "Why ask to explain if you thought it was made up?" - uh... to catch him out? - could be a brain fart, doubt it. See #13 through #15 for why I doubt it. All are rage posts
#16 - Caught by paraffin - doensn't even defend.
#17 - Dismisses uncledaphnes vote for overreaction
#18 - "when I see something scummy, I'm gonna go after it" - exactly what I'm doing, yet you are attacking me for it.
#19 - Self meta.
#22 - Asks trekker who is scum. -- Following my current reads, possibly an attempt to discretely plan a mislynch.
#23 - "Noted" - trekker voted paraffin.
#24&#25 - Deliberatly mis-informs Oh-My-God-U-Suck as Oh-My-God-Ur-Stupid; posible attempt at starting an argument for an easy lynch - also finally attacks the poor scumhunting vote.
#26 - Dismisses David Xanatos vote as "weak meta".
#29 - Further dismissal of David Xanatos meta vote
#30 - Self definition of play.
#31 - Dismisses #3 as not as serious as it looked.
#32 - Sheeps paraffins vote on uncledaphne.
#34 - Further self meta.
#35 - Attacks a read change.
#37 - Goes with uncledaphnes list, asks about the redFF read.
#38 - Dismisses uncledaphnes attack on him as "thoughtless".
#39 - Uncledaphnes play is non-sensical and he is voting his obvtown read.
#40 - Attack uncledaphne some more.
#41 - Uncledaphnes defence of sorgster is "weak and suspicious".
#42 - "I don't want a quicklynch - I'm here for pressure" - Pretty much all the pressure you can apply has been applied at this point.
#43 - "I didn't push hard, sorgster is still alive and kicking" - was never sure of sorgster scum.
#45 - Tells uncledaphne to reread his post.
#46 - Reread again, highlights quicklynching and applying pressure.
#47 - Image only posts make me rage... as images speak a thousand words however, this one to me is basically laughing.
#48 - "He scumslipped - get him".
#49 - "He admitted he's scum (or a terrible VI)".
#51 - RedFF is good, he isn't scum on the wagon. Votes David Xanatos.
#52 - All caps - requests players to post.
#53 - Attacks Davids Meta push some more.
#54 - Attacks TTA (whoever that is)
#55 - Buys in to David Xanatos reasoning for TTA (who I'm just going to assume is TheAwesomeAll)
#56 - Isn't bothered by his own tunnel vision?
#57 - Attacks me for "beating up on uncledaphne to look town".
#58 - Attempt to set up my mislynch and dodging the question I asked.
#64 - Dismisses TheRainMans vote.
#78 - Vote for David, "NEVERMIND"
#79 - Claims I'm bussing David, but lets get him anyway.
#82 - I'm a good lynch because "I'm bad".
#83 - "Lynch all bad guys."
#84 - I'm bad because of an oppotunistic vote on David Xanatos. I gave a reason with my David Xanatos vote, Vifam hasn't. So who's the oppotunistic one?
#85 - Further attempt at programming that I'm bad into people.
#95 - Oh look, I'm scum again.
#96 - ISO on me without reason - Attacks me for not ISO'ing Vifam. I'm sorry should I announce everything I read in thread? I did re-read you. You were still scum.
#97 - If David is scum, I'm scum. So lets lynch David. --- At this point, Vifam has made it pretty clear I am his strongest scum read, so why doesn't he push?
#102 - Obviously misses my point and attacks me for it. Also attacks me for hiding my thoughts.
#105 - "trekker is town" -- again...
#110 - Vote jump to me - No obvious reason given.
#114 - Vote jump to David Xanatos.
#119 - Unvotes
#121 - Votes me again.

But is sticking with it this time.

#129 - Hammers David Xanatos
#132 - Opens instantly with a vote on me, providing no obvious reason again.
#134 - Points me back to the ISO case, which is now irrelevant.
#136 - Another all caps post. "I'VE PUSHED TWO FAIL WAGONS ON DUMB TOWNIES, BUT NOT TODAY." This says everything you need to know.
#137 - Misrep. I never said I would ISO Vifam. Attacks me for it.
#138 - Oh lovely WIFOM.
#142 - Depends on context actually, I consider them tells in the context of you.
#143 - Another attempt at discrediting me. Saying I deliberatly missed the case provided on me. I didn't, there was no vote on it so it wasn't going in the vote analysis. When I've put ??? there is no immediate reason, not that there isn't one. I said that in the post.
#144 - Most wouldn't consider this a tell.. but I do.
#147 - Translation: "Lets go 3 for 3, sheep me and while you're there, post more."


From the moment I come in to the game Vifam has been trying to get me lynched, based on a ISO analysis of THREE posts. Then taunts me to come back at him with a real case. I love it when scum are so obvious to me.

[Hiraki]

Stop pushing Vifam.

I'm 99.99999999% sure in my townread on him.

I don't care about your scumtells.

They're wrong.