@OS and others who apparently did not read or pay attention to the start of this game-
The probability of a backup recruiter is and has been long posited by multiple people from the beginning of this game. It's based on comments dana made in several places regarding Blackest Night Mafia and his thoughts about cults (primarily that a cults should NOT be easily killed/removed/dealt with by N1 of any game). There are several methods to deal with this, but with a double day setup, the simplest and most effective method is to allow cults to have 2+ members on D1 (either N0 recruitment or flat out starting with 2+ members).
You are and have been buddying myself and Muffin (which other than BB, rounds out the makeup of "trusted" town players). Pretty effectively I might add, until WLC's role info implicated you as Cult of some sort. On review, I realize I had you marked as more probably town a big part being due to your interactions with BB which mirrored my brother's frustration with his BB's early game ridiculous play.
And to be clear, you have NOT claimed any tracking RESULTS on Ludi. You have claimed an attempted but failed track on Ludi. Which says absolutely NOTHING about whether you actually targeted him or not.
The wording remains odd as it was before; in context it can be explained, but as directly stated, your initial claim implied that you expected some sort of action OTHER THAN an investigation result.
@BB-
Look for scum based on play, not based on roles and theories of what happened at night or who is CR because they were near last to claimincg (Why yall lynched Mera and why yall wanna lynched Ludi)
You cleared Ludi for claiming doctor. The hypocrisy in this statement alone makes the rest of your post meaningless.
Arbitrarily clearing people for ridiculous WiFOM reasons is invalid (yes saying "he's too crazy to be scum" is WiFOMy crap-logic).
YOU YOURSELF are *CLEARED* because of roles and theories about what makes a balanced setup. These are tools we have to use and they should be used ALONG WITH analyzing game play.
@Toast-
Mod pretty much confirmed that NPIAU was recruited N1 and KDUB was recruited N2. If you're assuming OS was recruited N3, it has no bearing on any of OS play regarding Nikanor prior to N3. You
claim to think Ludi is more likely CR than Nikanor. Place your vote on Ludi. There's too many people saying they agree with and understand the points on Ludi but just giving him a free pass for no apparent reason. Fix your vote.
@Muffin-
You know the case on Ludi, fix your vote and let's get things going.
@Tans-
You asked
if Ludi can die next, well the answer is yes. Vote him.
@Hiplop-
Are you giving Ludi a pass because there was
only 1 death last night? The implications of that conclusion are that mafia knowingly decided to make Ludi perform the mafia kill and then he got blocked. This in turn requires that mafia choose the player who was designated as the RB/JK target for BOTH of our claimed roleblockers under TWO DIFFERENT plans. Please clarify if that is what you actually thought. Then when you realize how nonsensical that position is, return your vote to Ludi. Obv-CR is obv-CR.
@Nikanor-
Why would OS as the backup-CR claim a false investigation result on Toasty as the main CR?
If we lynched Toasty and he flipped CR, then it would show that OS is lying about Toasty not targeting anyone (or mean that Andy is lying about his target AND Ludi is lying about getting blocked). That just doesn't work.
Ludi is the CR with OS backup. Move your vote. Let's lynch the CR.
@Andy-
You're setting up a ridiculous strawman. Your ENTIRE game play (not
just
[i/]
your following Nik's fake cop claim D1 Lynch 1) has been follow the crowd instead of trying to figure things out for yourself. You weren't helpful in BNM because you were a cop. You were helpful because you tried to solve the game and figure out what was going on (and you were mostly successful at it).
I've read Ludi and CJ many times. All he's done of note is attack WLs at every turn. Heavily buddy you after you told everyone that Saint Walker (aka CJ's fake claim) is definitely a townie. Attack mass claiming. Attack the claimed WLs some more. Completely abandon his supposed target to focus on the only competing wagon (with no reasoning other than OMGUS). Tell a confirmed Black Recruit to not hammer him (and the recruit *LISTENED TO HIM*). Attempt a bullshit OMGUS wagon on Kast. When called on the idiocy of claiming Kast as CR, change his position to call Kast a mafioso (which he previously claimed was horrendously anti-town to search for).
And that's just his game play; adding in his implausible claim & implausible CHANGE to his claim & anti-town Night action choices leaves pretty much no room for anything but CR. Are you scared that lynching CR will mean town switches to focus on mafia next (namely you)?
There's a reason I asked you
your thoughts on Ludi, and though you dodged the question, your defense of Ludi makes your real intent clear. Ludi lynch now. After he flips CR, we look to Andy.
