Open 321: Kc's FIRE and ICE: Game over.

[Klazam]

3-2-2 ratio now. If DX says that VE is town, that's good enough for me. I'll lynch any of the 4 other people.

Consider this a intent to vote Killerjester, after more discussion.

[David Xanatos]

Not saying he's Town. Saying that unless Ice no-killed, he's not Ice.

[Klazam]

D'oh.

OBV i was too tired to post.

Hmm. I still want to vote KJ

[VisceraEyes]

Thx for the presumed save DX, I can't imagine Ice forgot to submit a kill after x+3 (where x is a number too ridiculous for me to remember this early) days of night. Be that as it may, I'm not sold on a KJ lynch. His self-vote, while strange, isn't enough to mark him as mafia to me. *shrug*

[killerjester]

Maybe I was wrong about VE. Maybe he isn't scum o.o Which means DavidX is the doc, and everyone else is scum. That certainly follows with the idea that Reab wanted to quicklynch me, his supposed partner, Klazam, is also setting up my lynch, and Krazy and Cirno will no doubt swoop in for the hammer, given the opportunity.

It kinda sucks that we need 4 to lynch though. So which scumgroup wants to start killing off their rivals?

[killerjester]

Or, or wait. Can we get everyone to agree to DavidX leading the lynch? I like this idea a lot.

[Klazam]

It's interesting that both VE and kj claims that the other one is not scum.

[killerjester]

Quite. What's your opinion of Reab?

[Krazy]

ALthough KJ's interactions with VE are weird, I think it's a one-sided weird, mostly on the side of KJ. VE has explained his reads this game (after the AtE d1), unlike KJ who went full swing on TF pretty much out of nowhere, which was, to use his favorite word, sheer opportunism. Between the two, VE could just be mistaken, but KJ is certainly scum. The Smarg kill only seals the deal. I think the self-vote nonsense is really just to distract from the nightkill.

Vote KJ

[killerjester]

Told ya the scum would jump at me

I bet Krazy's team killed smarg for this exact play right here, "Oh look smarg died, so KJ is scum!"

[Krazy]

It's not really a prediction when you were my top suspect and my vote at the end of yesterday, kj, nice attempt to poison the well though.

[killerjester]

You know what's funnier than 3 mislynches in a row?

4.

[killerjester]

Who knows though, when I die it'll be pretty obvious VE is the last VT and at least the scum would have a pretty interesting 2-2-2 prisoner's dilemma. Maybe the town can still win even if I am lynched.

[VisceraEyes]

You know what's funnier than 3 mislynches in a row?

4.

Okay...I was willing to overlook the self-vote 'trap'...but AtE's on top are just...

KJ, can you explain why you expect anyone to believe that you're town after that?

[killerjester]

I was going moreso for I-told-you-so after the game's over than general convincingness now, actually.

[VisceraEyes]

That doesn't change the fact that you're appealing to our fear of another mislynch sir, whether you were trying to convince us now or laugh at us later.

Either way, I don't like it. I'm willing to hold off on voting you for now, in the name of not ending the day 12 hours after it began, but I'm watching your posts very closely KJ.

[killerjester]

Well it's pretty rightly put. Reab and Krazy have shown general disregard for the opinion of our confirmed Doc, they're only interested in getting the day over as quickly as possible. And if their partners both vote for me then I'm already lynched. At this point I find it more useful to fill their heads with WIFOM to put us in a better position to come out on top from the 2-2-2 dilemma. DavidX will clearly be protecting VE if I flip town, so the scum have two situations in the 2-2-2.

They can try to kill DavidX, but in doing so they risk that their Rivals won't target DavidX. And the only smart move when not targetting DavidX is to target rival scum. I expect them to kill each other and the town will probably come out on top for D5 with 2-1-1.

I mean sure it'd be great if I wasn't lynched. But let's be realistic here.

[Klazam]

Reab's scum.

[VisceraEyes]

Klazam is concise.

[Klazam]

I am.

[Cirno]

Since we are incapable of killing scum, I have an idea. Everybody go grab a milk crate, a strong rope, and a six shooter. Tie your rope to a nice sturdy tree branch and get on up on your milk crate. On my mark, we'll all hang ourselves and fire off shots at one another while we each dangle to death. Mama always said 'if you can't beat 'em, go for mutually assured destruction' and I'm pretty sure this is the only way we are killing scum.

On a more serious note, KJ's suggestion that we play follow the leader like some mentally handicapped EM player who is incapable of logic or forming his own opinions is stupid. And his decision to go the 'lol if you vote me you are scum' route while going on about how there will be 4 mislynches in a row damages his credibility more than anything else he has done in this game so far.

Anyway, I'll lynch anyone outside of Klazam, David and delicious Cirno. Order of perference is Reab > Krazy > Killerjester/VE.

VOTE: Reab

Also,
>VE complaining about AtEs

[VisceraEyes]

Hey, I've been a lot better ass. I get all paranoid at the beginning of games. Also, when I started this game I was new to the site, so there was a fair amount of nerves involved. That seems SO LONG AGO.

[VisceraEyes]

Told ya the scum would jump at me

I bet Krazy's team killed smarg for this exact play right here, "Oh look smarg died, so KJ is scum!

"

It's not really a prediction when you were my top suspect and my vote at the end of yesterday, kj, nice attempt to poison the well though.

THIS. I've reread d3, and Krazy was very obviously suspicious of KJ all day. Pushed for his lynch right up to the lynch of TF. He HAD to know that Krazy would instavote him, and the fact that he opens with a 'gambit' to 'trap' scum who would be 'eager to quicklynch' seems convenient. And then what? He even inserts his own

WIFOM

!

My guess is that HIS team killed smarg with this particular play in mind. That they killed smargo with the intention to trap Krazy SPECIFICALLY, based wholly on this interaction. I could be way off, but this whole situation is WAY too convenient.

I'm confident enough to...
VOTE: killerjester
...to death.

[killerjester]

Your strong use of "unnecessary" quotation marks in your "post" and your littering of CAPS is why you're wrong.

There's nothing to suggest I would have known Krazy would bring up the point about Smarg. My gambit to trap scum was a genuine gambit to trap scum. And it worked. I mean, have you even looked at Reab? He fell face-fucking-first into my gambit. You

may

have a

semi-decent

point if I was clawing at Krazy's throat and trying to get him lynched. But the evidence here really doesn't support your premise.

Also
VOTE: Reab

[Reab]

My trap worked.
Don't get me wrong, but i wouldn't vote KJ just for the reason that smargaret died at night lol. I was more hoping to find someone who follows me on the vote for no real reason, and it was succesful. It was pretty obvious that you are going to unvote aswell. More info about that below the quote.

ALthough KJ's interactions with VE are weird, I think it's a one-sided weird, mostly on the side of KJ. VE has explained his reads this game (after the AtE d1), unlike KJ who went full swing on TF pretty much out of nowhere, which was, to use his favorite word, sheer opportunism.

Between the two, VE could just be mistaken, but KJ is certainly scum. The Smarg kill only seals the deal.

I think the self-vote nonsense is really just to distract from the nightkill.

Vote KJ

Please explain why kj is certainly scum. Because of his predecessors? Because of his rolepmcheck-joke? I didn't like what he did last day aswell, but, dude you just voted for kj without even telling us what you're really thinking.

As you can see in my first post on this day, i didnt instantly vote Kj. I was thinking about what he said, and i figured out if would be a good idea to set a vote on him to see if someone follows me fast. Krazy just did that.
Yes, he was voting for kj last day aswell, but right now we aren't really in a good shape compared to the mafia. This means we should overthink every step we make twice or even more often, because a wrong lynch today is bringing a loss really close.

Nevertheless, Krazy sees the opportunity to vote kj to create a fast wagon, with the reason that smargaret died at night.
I mean, which mafia member would be so dumb to kill the guy at night that called him out the dayphase ago. That would be plain stupid and obvious like hell, hence i don't expect it on these forums.

Unvote Killerjester

| Reason: probably ice mafia, but krazy is way scummier. Possible Scummate: Cirno (for opening a counterwagon on me after seeing 1 townie says "reab is scum")

FoS: Krazy | Reason: Fire mafia, trying to pull KJ into the nightkill misery. Possible Scummate: I'm not sure. VE was distancing from him. Klazam could play a mindtrick on us. DX could fake all of the doc story. Since i think DX and Klazam are town, i'd place my bet on VE.