So these are basically my thoughts as I read through the game, originally they were just my notes so they aren’t terribly read-friendly. A lot of it won’t be relevant now but I may as well post everything just to show my thought process. I apologize for adding to the wallfest that has been this game.
By the way, this is my first game in years, so I may be unaware of site meta and such. I also don’t know who most of you are (but I am aware of Thor’s reputation, which I point out because it is relevant to the way I treat him Day Two).
---Day One---
The beginning of this game is really painful. I’m really just glazing over through these disgusting walls and just becoming mildly irritated at the authors. You are all useless.
Amrun 141 is very town. I like how he sticks to this even though no one agrees with him.
Thor’s entry post is really good. From the way he talks about his discussion with Robo I feel like their discussion definitely took place and was genuine. Around this point, I’m starting to see how glowball gets lynched today.
Something about Supreme Overlord 198 rubs me the wrong way. He sort of criticizes Thor then hops onto the general assumption that Thor is town without any other comment. I agree with Amrun 200. SO 202: there is nothing wrong with having strong town reads and expressing them strongly! And, drat, Thor said exactly what I just typed and then some in post 204.
glowball wants to lynch for info rather than scumminess and won’t let Maruchan defend himself? Wtf? And, later, refrains from doing the one thing a townie is supposed to do. Why are you even playing?
NS does absolutely nothing to defend himself.
Thunderwall 256 gets townie brownies.
glowball continues to selfdestruct. It’s a good thing I wasn’t in the game D1, as I probably would have tunneled glowball and gotten really abrasive. I have very little patience for this hyper-emotional whiny crap.
lane 354, thunder 357, Amrun 359, SO 370 are town.
---Day Two around here I think---
The people with latent suspicions on saulres are lame and aren’t scumhunting.
Lane 573 sounds like he knows mothrax and glowball are town; if this is part of the reason for his lynch I will be less critical of it but other than that I’m not seeing it yet
SO’s Trow vote is useless, what is he even doing.
Why isn’t mothrax dead yet? I mean that in more ways than one- yes, I feel that he is scum and should be lynched, as he too has done exactly nothing, but I’m also curious as to how there seems to be a lot of sentiment against him and yet lane somehow gets lynched today. Admittedly I haven’t seen the whole day yet but I feel like there will be scum on the lane wagon.
Auckmid I am so sick of your ‘lol sorry guyz reading up post soon’ posts. Get replaced already.
I like lane 653, he’s actually proposing reads that aren’t the same as everyone else’s (saulres town, thor neutral), though I don’t particularly agree at least he’s thinking.
Timing of SO’s lane case is a little suspect (kinda OMGUS) but I think that could be a coincidence. I don’t really like the case, I didn’t see much that was original, but Hoppster says later he thought it had some original points, so maybe I just glazed over during that post. A few posts later he refers to the glowball wagon as ‘(almost) completely town-driven’ which strikes me as off.
I feel like lane just can’t win this argument no matter what he says. I know hindsight is 20/20- I admit that I would have been on the glowball lynch, though, so I feel I’m entitled to express skepticism of this lynch.
In post 669, MrTrow wrote:- wifom-lover (at least as scum) who uses 'doc' as base for setup-discussions -> knows the setup?
Awful point. In his example doc was the only power role that it made sense to use. I don’t like the tone either, it sounds like scum throwing something out just to see if it sticks.
Other points in his post are nothing revolutionary but also not horribly scummy. Point #1 in Maruchan 690 is good; Trow was misrepresenting him a little.
Amrun is rubbing me wrong this page but I still think he’s town. The only issue I have with him is his certainty glowball would flip town, but it seems to be meta-based, and plus lane did the same thing. He’s also pulling a bit of a glowball in 703 which is obnoxious.
Shit, lane gets lynched because of Robo? It’s going to be hard to pick out the scum on the wagon if everyone just sheeps him. I hate post 761, and I think it is actually a little scummy. He doesn’t metion any of the town things lane has done, sets up for future suspicion of thunderwielder, mentions his other head might disagree with him (giving him a chance to backtrack later). He criticizes lane when he finally gives a list, claiming it isn’t enough even though it’s a pretty solid wall if you ask me. Late in the post he says ‘this is a good reason for me to vote lane but not enough’, then without giving any further reasons he votes lane at the end of the post. I’m assuming this post is what turns the tide against lane. This post has taken away a lot of robothor’s accrued townie points for me.
And of course now my top townread is going to vote lane. I really thought I’d be able to find scum on this wagon but perhaps I’m the one being unreasonable?
In post 775, lane0168 wrote: i dont understand why if we can all agree on mothrax, we just vote him? doesnt make sense to me. what do you trust about mothrax? hasn't even done anything or many posts. you may say my scumhunting sucks but at least i'm trying. mothrax slot is pretty worthless. but i guess mothrax scum can slide by again on my own point, of my flip will give up way more information than mothrax's flip. just like i was hoping the glowball flip would do.
THIS. The fact that mothrax has been the competing twice in a row, has been scummy and useless, and has not been lynched yet SCREAMS to me that scum haven’t been voting him or pushing him. This is almost as important to me as his actual scumminess.
RT comments that he thinks lane’s PR comment was designed to get his buddies to work on a mislynch? This seems pretty dumb to me. I think it was actually a towntell; scum would be more careful than to say something like that. And lol, he’s only allowed to have 3 scum reads since there are 3 scum? Bullshit.
Oh dear, lane is exploding. One reason to not do this as town: any further lane votes are now justified so I can’t get much out of them. Oh god and a re-self vote. Really?
Votes on lane pre-explosion: SO, RoboThor, Amrun, thunder. Unfortunately all of them tried pretty hard on this lynch, all have made cases on lane at some point, and a couple are my strongest town reads. But I think there have to be scum in here and I think Supreme Overlord and RoboThor are the best candidates.
---Day Three---
Did saulres ever give a ‘strongest town read’? I think that would be a good indication of who he saved, but I don’t see it. Yeah apparently he didn’t crumb it. Bleh.
Tragedy’s entry post blows. It also doesn’t particularly seem like he read the thread. Pointing out townreads isn’t buddying. The only scummy thing Tragedy successfully points out is connections to mothrax- so why not lynch mothrax? Maybe I’m biased because I’ve had Amrun town all game, especially after the post-day-2 gloating.
Trag next post confirms he’s just iso-ing each player in order. Really? You voted Amrun without having read the other players?
I agree with Amrun 824.
I have no idea how Trow could read Tragedy as town after those shit-tastic posts.
Tragedy proceeds to call mothrax scum with a lot of certainty, then leaves his vote on his shitty Amrun case. mothrax/Tragedy scumteam +1.
Tragedy makes what I assume is an unnecessary VT claim (‘same as ever’), implying he prefers to play scum, yet he is pretty interested in this game.
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In post 867, MrTrow wrote: Tragedy - (although fakeable) believe to have townslipped with auckmid-read
This makes zero sense. Obviously he just didn’t know who he was replacing.
I like Quilford’s first few posts, they make me feel better about his slot and move him firmly onto neutral ground.
DeltaWave, is that really all you have to say upon replacing in? “Defense of my slot, convinced by argument for the wagon most strongly competing with mine, Vote Tragedy”? Really? Also Hoppster is your third suspicion just for being suspicious of you? Um, 1.) a lot of people are suspicious of you. 2.) That is such OMGUS it’s unbelievable.
And now we have a stupid omgus vote on thunder. Right after he was not one of your top three suspects! I smell scum implosion.
And now quick thoughts on each player, which also serves as my tl;dr. Players in each category are in a specific order, with the lowest being the scummiest.
TOWN
thunderwielder
- Absolutely my best townread. The whole game he's been saying the things I wanted to say, albeit using more words than I would have used.
Amrun
- I've had a strong town read here since the initial lane case and agree with him pretty frequently.
Ninja/Hoppster
- Seems pretty reasonable, generally. My read here may develop further but at the moment I have better suspects.
NEUTRAL
SO/Quilford
- I waffled mentally about SO- at the time he replaced out he was about null leaning scum, but I like Quilford so far.
Trow
- I've had a couple issues with him and he hasn't said a whole ton so this means a little more.
SCUM
RoboThor
- Hated the Lane-vote post; I feel he used his influence to help lynch lane and he hasn't gotten any flak for that today. Early in the game I was worried I wouldn't be able to tell if they were scum because the hydra dynamic sort of automatically seems genuine to me, but their relative inactivity has helped me out a bit. He's slowly moved down my scumlist since day 1.
Tragedy
- Probable scum. The way Tragedy entered the game really bothered me, particularly the way he voted Amrun seemingly before even reading anyone else's posts.
NS/mothrax/DeltaWave
- Here's the thing. I am really bothered by the way mothrax escaped lynch days one and two. I feel like scum picked the other wagon both times. Also, there have been three players in this slot, and I have wanted to lynch them all, independently of one another.
I see my vote is already on DeltaWave, but just to make it official...
Unvote, Vote DeltaWave
