Newbie 1143 - Game Over

[Quilford]

"were" referring to the end of yesterday

[Thor665]

@Quill - did you ever express anything against me yesterday? Because I totally don't recall that, I would have thought I'd have noticed that I was your scummiest person.
As I recall you were trying to lynch Haylen and I was agreeing with you...shock.

[Quilford]

After the Doctor flip and a skim of Hazard's and your ISOs, I considered you scummiest. Hence my going to post a quote wall on you at the start of the day.

[Gen_Wolf]

Well, I was uncertain of a no lynch but I see from Lunita's post on a no lynch...

Anyways, if Haylen turns out to be truthful then my next vote will be Lunita, purely based on the fact that Thor is still accusing Quil and I and if he infact turns out to be scum the last person he would accuse is his scum partner and the only one not to be mentioned out of the 3 uninvestigated.

But ill let today play out and see how that goes and then I will no lynch!

[Haylen]

I still want to hear from Haylen why she choose each target each night and why she thought she was outed yesterday.

Why does legend seem to have it that Brit's don't sleep?

If you look at the context they were the obvious choice for a cop investigation. Lizk came under heavy fire on Day One and I thought she was more likely to be scum than Effortless. Yesterday, I kept putting off answering Thor's question of why I thought Lizk was town, I couldn't exactly say "Because I got an innocent on her last night" so I had to make something up which took a bit longer. I investigated Thor last night because he was the second most popular bandwagon at the end of yesterday, if I hadn't already been sure of Prozac's innocence after that hammer then I would have investigated him instead. It was a toss up between investigating Thor and Quilford, I doubted that if he was scum then Quilford could manipulate the town very easily during the last few days, Thor however, would be able to so I thought I'd investigate the guy I hoped wasn't scum first in order to get him out of the way faster if he was scum.

Well, I'm happy with a no lynch - bring it on Haylen, because you'll *totally* be killed tonight, amirite?

I well actually. See you in hell! I'll keep a seat warm for you. ^_^

I don't like the timing she declared it after she had already made several other posts including voting no lynch.

I'm paranoid. In the space of those few posts I thought "Crap, I pretty much softly outted myself yesterday aaand I'm going to get killed tonight so I might as well out my guilty" It's optimum cop play.

Plus, she says she doesn't breadcrumb but she also said she was afraid she was outed yesterday as cop

I don't breadcrumb as town because I lack subtlety. I thought I'd outted myself because I randomly came up with 'oh hey, Lizk is town' right at the beginning of Day Two and refused to budge from that.

If scum don't kill her we get te benefit of another night of investigations and the result.

Logically, this doesn't make sense. Why would you want the benefit of another investigation when my lack of being dead will instantly make you suspect me?

@ Gen_Wolf: You'll be voting Thor tomorrow actually.

[Porochaz]

regardless of counterclaims it still doesnt mean your cop, there is additional reasoning why we should no lynch, who the scum kill will give a hell of a lot of info

The scum kill is WIFOM.

Its still info.

We dont lose anything by no killing today.

[Quilford]

No Lynch today: Town is killed (3:2) > Scum is lynched (3:1 MYLO) > Town is killed (2:1 LYLO)
Lynch today: Thor!scum is lynched (4:1) > Haylen is killed, presuming scum have brains (3:1 MYLO with Porochaz = conf. town)

[Porochaz]

Lynch Today: Thortown is lynched, scum win.

[Porochaz]

Im not saying thor is town by the way but its best to make sure.

[Quilford]

We're just postponing the inevitable, and we don't get to take confirmed innocent Porochaz to 4p MYLO.

Come. On.

[Porochaz]

You are becoming scummier by the second.

[Lunitawolf]

If scum don't kill her we get te benefit of another night of investigations and the result.

Logically, this doesn't make sense. Why would you want the benefit of another investigation when my lack of being dead will instantly make you suspect me?

We have no way of 100% confirming you as town cop, so we are going to have to make a decision on your credibility at some point unless you die tonight. I'd rather make the decision with more information, rather than less, especially since one wrong move at this point costs us the game.

We're just postponing the inevitable, and we don't get to take confirmed innocent Porochaz to 4p MYLO.

Come. On.

@Quilford Why do you think scum wouldn't kill you?

For someone who says in post 748 that "The scum kill is WIFOM," you're using it a lot.
- You say the scum kill of Effortless makes you suspect Thor.
- You presume to know how scum will kill tonight and that they'll kill Poro over Haylen (or you or anyone else).

The only TOWN person who should be making the argument to lynch Thor today over voting a no lynch is Haylentowniecop. It doesn't make any sense coming from *you.* You can't know with 100% certainty that Haylen is town, and I cannot see the town motivation for taking a chance now when we would have much more information to make a more informed decision tomorrow.

This is a semi-closed setup. There is no guarantee that there is a cop role. At most, given the lack of counterclaims, I think we can assume either Haylen is telling the truth or Haylen is doing a scum gambit and town drew the doctor/6 vanilla townie setup. We're going to have to decide which it is, and I see no reason to make that decision today when the downside greatly outweighs the upside.

At this point, it makes me wonder whether the scum team is Quilford/Haylen.

VOTE: No lynch.

[Haylen]

We should no lynch. From my point of view it's obvious that we should lynch Thor today, but if I was a VT I know I would be pushing for a no lynch due to paranoia over the cop claim. However, it doesn't make sense that somebody who is scum would claim during mylo, it automatically raises warning bells and would invite a counterclaim or jailkeeping night action if one was in the game. Weighing up the risks, scum would have to be an idiot to claim now with the fact not only could a COP counterclaim but a JAILKEEPER could too.

I think we should take a vote on who I investigate tonight.

[Haylen]

It is interesting that Quilford is willing to follow me blindly.

[Quilford]

I have explained why Haylen is obviously cop, or scum bussing a buddy.

I have explained that if we lynch Thor now we will be better off in the long run.

Haylen I am not sheeping you blindly. You are voting No Lynch, and I am voting Thor.

[Quilford]

"@Quilford Why do you think scum wouldn't kill you?

For someone who says in post 748 that "The scum kill is WIFOM," you're using it a lot.
- You say the scum kill of Effortless makes you suspect Thor.
- You presume to know how scum will kill tonight and that they'll kill Poro over Haylen (or you or anyone else)."

is a complete misrepresentation of what I have said.

[Lunitawolf]

I have explained why Haylen is obviously cop,

or scum bussing a buddy.

I have explained that

if we lynch Thor now we will be better off in the long run.

I think it's safe to say that Haylen/Thor are not the scum team.

Why would Haylen come out strongly and throw Thor under the bus like that at MYLO?

If town mislynches today, scum wins. So if scum is going to pull a gambit, I'd think it would be for one that would win them the game, not one that would make it so they lose out on the option of getting the mislynch today and have to work to trick town again tomorrow...

[Lunitawolf]

"@Quilford Why do you think scum wouldn't kill you?

For someone who says in post 748 that "The scum kill is WIFOM," you're using it a lot.
- You say the scum kill of Effortless makes you suspect Thor.
- You presume to know how scum will kill tonight and that they'll kill Poro over Haylen (or you or anyone else)."

is a complete misrepresentation of what I have said.

Would you please try explaining it again then? Because that's how it's coming across to me.

Why do you think scum would kill Poro tonight and not someone else?

[Thor665]

@Haylen - you do recognize that you big, brilliant insight on lizk I made too...without needing to claim it came from being a cop.
Lunita is still looking very town, but I've been saying that for a while.
Wolf and Quill are definitely the questionables - my money is that this gambit was not planned out as well as scum would have liked.

[Haylen]

So Lunita might be scum.

[Thor665]

Yeah...Lunita might totally be scum...because scum would have me totally coach and buddy them like I did yesterday. Because, y;know, those are awesome components of a scum case. Keep selling, Haylen.

[Haylen]

Yer...unfortunately since you're confirmed scum to me, I don't have to convince anyone of anything. Thank goodness this setup doesn't have a scum roleblocker!

[Gen_Wolf]

I would like more info, lets see what happens tonight and go from there...

I think if Thor turns out to be scum and Haylen is telling the truth! I don't like lunita she is trying to hard to be town in my opinion!

Vote: No Lynch

[Flameaxe]

Votecount 3.2

No Lynch [3] (Porochaz, Haylen, Lunitawolf)

Thor665 [1] (Quilford)

Not Voting [2] (Thor665, Gen_wolf)

Deadline:

October 15th, 9PM EST
Prodding: No one as of now.

With six players alive, it will take four votes to lynch and three votes to no lynch!

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No lynch has been lynched like the scumbag it was.

No lynch, Cultless Cult Leader, Lynched Day Three

Disclaimer: The above is a joke....

[Flameaxe]

Realized I never made a night deadline. Its tomorrow morning, roughly 10 AM EST)