Mini 1243: Magician Mafia (Game Over)

[saulres]

rolecop is in and of itself a scummy ability.

Rolecop may be.

Flavor Cop is not.

[Amrun]

Except he didn't claim flavor cop derp?

[Amrun]

I might as well say that I'm The Amazing Kreskin. I don't know any more about him than is in my role PM, which is that he's some sort of mentalist from the 70s.

[saulres]

He claimed flavor results. Not role results.

pedit: And I wish you would have waited your turn There's a reason I put the names in the order I did.

[Amrun]

No, he claimed that he got my passive ability as a result. He did. He called himself a ROLECOP.

He obviously is a real rolecop. The question is his alignment.

[saulres]

He may not have wiki'd the flavor cop and not realized the difference.

But he did claim flavor results, not role results.

Day 1 Locke used the ability on 4nxi3ty and

got the "Voter: Each day you may submit your vote..." line

from the PM

Day 2 I missed out because I didn't read the part about Day investigation and I left it too late.

Day 3

Amrun - You Are amazing.

In my role Pm because I am the Amazing Randi my passive ability reads You are Amazing.

I got this result from Amrun,

so I am assuming his character is The Amazing someone or rather..?

Don't argue this with me, I think you're town and I'm attempting to capture scum and prove a point.

[Amrun]

I don't understand the point you are trying to prove.

[Crab Canon]

paraphrase what the "you are amazing" ability says

Also, can you explain your townread on GNR yesterday?

[Amrun]

It says I'm amazing. That's it, literally.

I never had a townread on GNR. I said that Vi's theory - that scum shot at her while having very good reason to think she was bulletproof , if GNR was scum as she was postulating - was extremely unlikely.

I don't know where all this defending GNR shit is coming from. I was saying Vi's theory (as I understood it, and I was seeking clarification in case I was wrong) was pretty stupid. That's not the same thing as saying GNR was town. I happened to think Sotty was the scum shot, so it was obvious I didn't ascribe to that theory.

I still think it's really unlikely that scum shot Vi precisely because GNR knew or suspected she was bulletproof. It's POSSIBLE, given how hard she was pushing on GNR, but unlikely.

To be honest, I never had particularly strong feelings about GNR. At several points during the day, I thought he was the best lynch, but at other times, I was more interested in probing Vi's alignment.

After everything has shaken out, Vi is pretty clearly town. I like knowing that. It makes the headache of her post restriction a lot easier to deal with.

[Crab Canon]

Not sure why you want to stay on gnr.

seems like strong feelings here. You were repeatedly going throughout the day saying how you thought it was impossible for him to be scum because of vig shots and etc. At least own up to it.

[4nxi3ty]

cc since the order isn't necessary do you mind nameclaiming?

[saulres]

Vi didn't explicitly state this but I believe his theory is that sotty was vigged and scum with GNR shot him, hence only one kill.

Can you explain this a little further?


At this point, GNR seems like a fairly solid wagon.

I'd still be happy to see Junpei strung up, though I'm having trouble determining if his theory is something he believes in SO STRONGLY that it could conceivably come from town. It seems more like a crutch to not contribute anything useful, to me.

[saulres]

???

Stupid Q+

I went to post "The order is necessary, from where I stand" and got that.

[Crab Canon]

I'm willing to wait on the order if you think it still has the possibility of catching scum now that Amrun went outside of it. If that botched it, I can claim now so we can hurry this along and get back to scumhunting.

[4nxi3ty]

exactly my thoughts, ty.

[saulres]

It still has the possibility of catching scum, even though Amrun went out of turn. She in particular might have royally screwed it up, but I still especially want to see Fishy first, and Ace second. You and Luxury can switch up once we get to that.

[Crab Canon]

ok, I'll continue waiting then.

[saulres]

so we can hurry this along and get back to scumhunting.

You can get back to scumhunting. I just want the name claims, in that order, but that doesn't necessitate putting the rest of the game on hold.

[Amrun]

Not sure why you want to stay on gnr.

seems like strong feelings here. You were repeatedly going throughout the day saying how you thought it was impossible for him to be scum because of vig shots and etc. At least own up to it.

Except I didn't do that.

[Amrun]

As saulres just quoted, I mostly supported a GNR lynch.

HOWEVER, I did not understand how people ascribing to the theory-that-didn't-make-sense, ie ace, for example, whom 718 addressed, continued to think gnr was scum UNDER THEIR OWN THOERY.

it seriously makes no sense. tell me it does, with a straight face.

[Amrun]

Btw, I'm sorry for screwing up the order or something. I don't get how that could have screwed anything up, but sorry anyway.

[Crab Canon]

The post I quoted was about 100 posts after what salures quoted. There were many others as well. I am just too busy at the moment to go back over them. You most definitely were knocking on the GNR lynch yesterday.

[Amrun]

The post I quoted was about 100 posts after what salures quoted. There were many others as well. I am just too busy at the moment to go back over them. You most definitely were knocking on the GNR lynch yesterday.

You're wrong.

I was NOT knocking on the GNR lynch. I just re-read my ISO to make sure I didn't accidentally give the wrong impression.

The only thing that can be construed as "knocking" the lynch is promoting a Junpei lynch. In fact, my opinion never wavered from the quote that saulres posted - GNR lynch was okay, but I thought Junpei was better because I was more sure about him and it was a read I came to organically rather than my gnr read, which was basically trusting Vi about GNR's shenanigans in the QT.

Several times, I said that GNR did not make sense as scum within the theory that scum shot Vi. That doesn't mean I thought GNR was town. If you, or anyone else, continue to think this, then it is your reading comprehension at fault. I was criticizing the theory that ace and Vi shared. It's still a stupid theory, and if scum actually did that then they should be ashamed of themselves.

If people go about spouting off retarded theories, then I'm going to criticize them. That's just how it is going to go. People's theories, and their bases, speak to their motivations. In this case, I determined that they are both town. That's not always the case with stupid theories.

[Junpei]

Alright... a few things:

@Amrun is The Amazing an ability, passive, restriction, triggered, other, or purely flavor? Keep in mind that when I say purely flavor, I mean is it only in your name?

@Saulres that cop breadcrumb seems like a stretch to me. I mean, where did you pick those words out from? Breadcrumbs don't mean much regardless, but I find it strange that you say to have picked out the crumb a long time ago.

Crab Canon claims to have no passively ability and be a VT. This means that it is quite likely that The Amazing does SOMETHING if it is not flavor.

[saulres]

I mean, where did you pick those words out from?

It's his third post. I was ISOing him when Snake replaced in, trying to get a read, and noticed that post was worded kind of funny as a response to "Why are you so inactive". "Lack of" motivation I get, "poor motivation", not so much.

I told DDD I thought that he's a cop on Monday, he can confirm I did that when the game's over.