Open 321: Kc's FIRE and ICE: Game over.

[David Xanatos]

VOTE: Cirno

It's about all I can think of, hopefully if I'm right, it will give some clearer paths tomorrow..

[Krazy]

David, is there any chance you would consider VE?

[Klazam]

Why Cirno and not Krazy/KJ/VE/Me? I'm not inclined to vote Cirno, and since I'm not Ice (or Fire either), the only way to get a lynch is with my help too, so I need to know why Cirno is the lynch for today, David.

[Kcdaspot]

As promised:

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 4

Cirno

- 2 - killerjester, David Xanthos - (L-2)

killerjester

- 2 - Cirno, ViscaraEyes - (L-2)

Krazy

- 1 - Klazam - (L-3)

ViscaraEyes

- 1 - Krazy - (L-3)

Players not voting:

None

Less than 3 days remain.

official countdown later.

[Klazam]

Let's see all possible scumpairs:

Klazam-Cirno

Krazy was at L2, no hammer

Klazam-Krazy

Cirno was at L2, no hammer
Klazam-Killerjester

Klazam-VisceraEyes

Krazy was at L2, no hammer
Cirno-Krazy

Cirno-Killerjester

Killer was pushing Cirno's lynch all day
Cirno-VisceraEyes
Krazy-Killerjester

Krazy-VisceraEyes

Cirno was at L2, no hammer, Killer was at L2 and no hammer
Killerjester-VisceraEyes

This leaves us with the following pairs:

Klazam-Killerjester
Cirno-Krazy
Cirno-VisceraEyes
Krazy-Killerjester
Killerjester-VisceraEyes

I'm gonna go ahead and eliminate VE because the "nokill wifom thingy" seems amazingly unlikely to me- leaving us with:

Klazam-Killerjester
Cirno-Krazy
Krazy-Killerjester

As obviously I do not believe that I am scum in any way, shape, or form, so that leaves me with:

Cirno-Krazy
Krazy-Killerjester

Which makes my vote obvious to its reasoning. Krazy is the person who's 100% certain to be scum following my reasoning.

David's vote on Cirno is bad because Cirno is least likely to be scum out of the four of us. If David really thinks Cirno is scum, then he should be voting Krazy, who is the only one Cirno can be scum with. So will you join me in my vote of Krazy, David?

[Klazam]

David- we kind of need to work together here. is the things i outlined above unsound?

[VisceraEyes]

UNVOTE: KJ
VOTE: Cirno

That's L-1 ladies. Klazam, please sheep the confirmed town please.

[Klazam]

I just explained why the cirno vote was bad.

[Krazy]

Congratulations! Everyone loses.

Vote Cirno

Yep, he's my partner.

Tonight, VE, you will kill David and I will no-kill.

Why am I busing my partner and revealing the fire mafia?

Because VE knows that it's me and Cirno, as he has known the entire day, since we've had two crosskills, one on Klazam from the way-back machine and one on KJ last night.

So, I pretty much have to play for a happily-ever-after at this point since there's really no reason that VE would not be shooting us tonight, unless he too needed to play for a happily-ever-after.

So here's what happens now:

VE accepts the happily ever after, he kills David tonight, and then he adds "VOTE HAPPILY EVER AFTER."

Then tomorrow we all no lynch and "VOTE HAPPILY EVER AFTER."

And then the game is over. As it should have been for like weeks now, since it's not really mafia when we spend entire days knowing every single role in the game.

Never playing with this 'cross-kill = no kill' nonsense again. Stupidest mechanic I have ever seen.

Oh and if you're wondering:

VE can't kill me because then he's lynched tomorrow.

VE can't no-kill because then he's lynched tomorrow.

VE can't kill Klazam or KJ because David might protect them.

The end.

[Krazy]

And conversely:

-I can't kill VE because then I'm lynched tomorrow.

-I can't kill David because then he'd be saved and I'd be lynched tomorrow (since I'm telling VE to kill him).

-I can't kill Klazam or KJ because then we'd enter a stupid 1-1-1 which would just belabor this abomination of a game.

-QED I have to no-kill.

[killerjester]

Eh I'm actually fire. I no killed last night because I expected you guys to shoot David and I really didn't want to give too much power to either ice or the town since Reab was already lynched. Your guess is as good as any as to why he saved me. This doesn't really change anything though. Go ahead and shoot David tonight, and I'll no-kill.

[Klazam]

Lol.

[VisceraEyes]

/bow Krazy

I accept. Although I prefer to think of it as 'everyone wins'...call me an optimist.

[Klazam]

So you're saying that the 2 townies actually fakeclaim gambited mafia, huh?

[VisceraEyes]

Isn't it amazing? I was like 'Um...no effing way did Klazam just do that' because of the cross-kill. Then KJ did it. Apparently we both believed him. lol

[Klazam]

I'll just take my win any way I can.

[Klazam]

If krazy kills somebody, I'll give the win to VE. His deal, if he breaks it, he loses.

[Krazy]

Yeah no way would I kill, game is stupid enough already, a 1-1-1 would just be giving a townie the option to decide which scumteam he wants to win.

[Kcdaspot]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 4

Cirno

- 4 - killerjester, David Xanthos, ViscaraEyes, Klazam - (L-0)

killerjester

- 1 - Cirno - (L-3)

ViscaraEyes

- 1 - Krazy - (L-3)

Players not voting:

None

Lynch.

[Kcdaspot]

SO EVERYBODY WOKE UP ANGRY AND SHIT. THEY WERE ALL CUSSING AT EACH OTHER AN CRACKIN WISE ABOUT MAMAS


AND THEN CIRNO SAID TO JUS CHILL AND EVERYONE GOT ANGRY AT HIM.

THEN EVERYONE KILLED HIM AND THEN HE DIED.

TURNED OUT HE WAS A BAD GUY.


Cirno was killed D5. Lynched and was a

Ice mafia goon

The game has taken a odd turn but as it stands I can not accept it ending now as no win condition is imminent neither are all 3 factions in danger of being able to not complete thier win condition. if there is enough outcry from this though I will take it up to the list mod and see what he thinks.

Until then, It's Night 5. 3 days for actions.

(expired on 2011-10-21 20:00:00)

[Hoopla]

Okay.

killerjester, David Xanthos, Krazy, Klazam and VisceraEyes, can you all please PM me your role PM's and night choices for Night 5. It appears kcdaspot has vanished, so I'm going to take over if he doesn't come back. Apologies for the delays, so please help me out here so we can get this running again.

[Kcdaspot]

Oh hey. College sucks.

David Xanathos died, was

Grilled by the fire maf

and was a

Doctor.

Deadline To be added later.

Four alive means 3 to lynch and 2 to no lynch.

inb4 day is over in 2 posts.

[Krazy]

What a shocking turn of events!

Not really.

Vote No Lynch

Vote Happily Ever After

I don't really see why this game would need to go through more than one day/night cycle like this, all we need to establish is that VE doesn't want to try his luck with a 1-1-1.

[Krazy]

Presumable result of 1-1-1: town no-lynches (only thing that isn't a gamethrow), scum lynch town (only thing other than lynching each other that isn't a gamethrow), both scum are left 1v1 at the end = double nightkill = everyone loses. I think most would call this a loss, not a draw, even if it is "sort of" a draw.

2-1-1: everyone stays alive, also lulz it's a happily ever after, game ending is debateable, some call it a loss, some call it a draw, I personally call it "nothing" since the game, technically, isn't over, but closer to a draw than anything else.

Only reason VE would nightkill is if town PWOMISES HIM that they'll vote me tomorrow, which they shouldn't do, since if you noticed, town ends up getting lynched tomorrow anyway and definitely loses, and in any case town still doesn't win even if he does nightkill, and certainly doesn't win if they lynch me (since he then kills them).

So yes, basically everyone knows it's a Happily Ever After because VE really has no reason to night-kill town, and all we need to do is cycle through day/nights as "quickly" as possible until we establish the game is over to the mod's satisfaction.

[VisceraEyes]

VOTE: No Lynch
VOTE: Happily Ever After

This will go in my personal docket as a win, I don't care what you guys say.