NY139: Underground Mafia (Game over!)

[Pine]

Technically, battousai claimed a cop-relevant result first.

link? I'm being a bit lazy with my readthrough with all the present info.

[trekker]

Stevie's town.

I rolecopped Uprising, but I got nothing. Instead, it says that Battousai is a hider.
???????????

[sorgster]

Did you clarify with the mod again trekker?

[Pine]

That means trekker is claiming he was blocked. Not a fan of that particular claim. Do we have solid reasons to trust trekker?

[Pine]

To clarify, he's claiming that he is a rolecop that got blocked, then not blocked. Doesn't make sense for scum not to block him. Unless we have a Town roleblocker?

Christ, I need to stop putting off the full readthrough.

[sorgster]

To clarify, he's claiming that he is a rolecop that got blocked, then not blocked. Doesn't make sense for scum not to block him. Unless we have a Town roleblocker?

Christ, I need to stop putting off the full readthrough.

We don't have a town roleblocker. The claims so far

Me and mastin masons(confirmed through mastin and hiraki's gunsmith)
Trekker-rolecop
Stringer JOAt(lied)
Uprising-watcher
Batt-hider who doesn't die if hides behind scum

The rest are vt claims. Trekker's claimed he has vt on CSL and Stevie. Only stringer claimed he got vt on eep though. AntB has claimed vt without verification. I'm assuming scum may have a bus driver or something of that sort.
,

[Pine]

Stringer claimed Rolecop-by-JOAT with a VT on eep?

How did Stringer get lynched? Because if it didn't come up before now, claiming VT on a Townie without verification is ridiculously risky for scum. It would be pretty damning for eep IM

H

O, because it would indicate that Stringer was trying to clear his buddy.

Bus Driver is not a within the Normal guidelines, we don't have one.

Unless I've overlooked something, looks like remaining scum are Battousi, Trekker, and eep. GG, folks.

[Battousai]

Pine- For god's sake. You were wanting me dead without even reading the thread... Yesterday uprising claimed to watch TAA and saw nothing. I claimed I visited TAA and he should have seen me.

Trekker- Your post confuses me. Did you get two results or one?

[Battousai]

Pine... uh why am I scum and not uprising?

[sorgster]

Eep claimed vt before stringer claimed his copping

[Pine]

Eep claimed vt before stringer claimed his copping

That was left off your list of claims. Okay, Stringer's claim means nothing regarding eep. We're not quite at the "GG" stage yet.

[Pine]

Pine... uh why am I scum and not uprising?

You should have been asking that a while ago. Instead, you were questioning the strategy of following the cop. Nah, I simply believe him more than you. Your actions since Uprising's claim are sufficient for now.

[sorgster]

We have a mass claim last phase.

[Pine]

I need to read >_>

[sorgster]

There are three scum, and the team is Uprising, Battousai, and AntB.

----

I think trekker is town. I know I'm town. Therefore, his rolecops combined with my N3 cop, leaves the above three as the only players left who have not been confirmed as town.

Out of the 10 alive players:
trekker confirmed Vifam, CSL, and Stevie as town, through his rolecops. Vifam confirmed sorgster as town, through their masonry.
I confirmed eep as town, through my N3 cop.

That only leaves Uprising, Battousai, and AntB.

Of these three, Uprising and Battousai claimed power roles, and AntB claimed VT. That leads me to believe that AntB is just a goon, whereas Uprising and Battousai have some sort of power along with the group's scum kill each night. Since watcher(Uprising's claim) is a more powerful role than hider(Battousai's claim),
VOTE: Uprising.

Though it honestly doesn't matter which one we lynch today.

This post comes into mind now. Eep was the last to be claimed of this bunch as vt.
Also, is it possible about the read thing for trekker?

[Battousai]

Pine that doesn't even make a lick of sense. Your vote on me was because:

"Hang Battousai, or hang Uprising if we find out he was lying. Win-win."

Your whole case was following the cop. There was no need to ask you something you've already stated. I've been actually defending myself to you this entire day by telling you to read teh the thread in order to form a case on me that wasn't faulty "follow the cop"

[Pine]

No, you haven't been defending yourself. Until just recently, you were

just

attacking the common-sense follow-the-cop strategy. There's a subtle but important difference here. If you'd defended yourself and gone after Uprising, accepting that you'd be auto-lynched if he flipped Town, you might have had a shot at me believing you. But you did a very common scum-panicmode response.

I'm very confident in lynching you, and I think it would take ironclad evidence to convince me otherwise at this point. My vote is remaining off of you for now because I think we can put in a solid day's work against your buddies before we come back around to you. I will not be voting for anyone else unless the rest of the Town has a collective brain hemorrhage.

[Battousai]

Accept that I'd be autolynch if he flipped town? By my account, this is mylo. THERE IS NO TOMORROW IF ANYONE FLIPS TOWN. I've been doing everything to persuade you stop your follow the cop mentality (which I figured reading the thread would help because I was advocating a 1 v 1 between me and uprising for two days now and him suddenly getting a guilty result on me would seem suspicious as anyone else on my supposed scumteam could have performed the kill themselves).

You want ironclad evidence? No such thing in mafia. However, trekker got a hider result on me. Which cop do you follow now? The one who is part of the 1 v 1 or the one on the outside? Your problem is two-fold. You don't read the thread, and you are tunneling on me. For some reason you believe uprising from the get go, and you are tunneling on that aspect without taking anything else into consideration. Hell, the first thing you said when trekker said that I was a hider was that he was scum. Who does that, except those who are in the middle of a tunnel?

[Pine]

^Scumslip. Forgot to say "this -may- be MyLo". Knows for certain the number of scum, final nail in the coffin.

Also, in other news, we now know for certain that we are indeed in MyLo.

[eep]

Only way for stevie to be scum is for trekker to be scum.

nope. rolecop only gets pr info, not alignment. mafia goons would come up as vanilla townies.

otherwise that role would be incredibly overpowered.

@pine, that would be here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p3515527

[eep]

also, I was the first person to claim vt, not the last.

[sorgster]

Vote Battosai

Uprising please watch me tonight.

[Battousai]

By my account

, this is mylo.

^Scumslip. Forgot to say "this -may- be MyLo". Knows for certain the number of scum, final nail in the coffin.

Also, in other news, we now know for certain that we are indeed in MyLo.

What part of read the thread or knowing the definition of my account has you confused? I've been saying all along that this is mylo based on the roles.

Though that was a good try in trying to ignore my last post and just focused on one little thing. Now I'm pretty sure that Pine is scum with uprising. It actually makes sense, too. We haven't been able to get scum lynched until the mass claim, because it seems like at least half of the scum were basically inactive/lurking.

[Uprising]

Sorgster, that's what I was planning on.

[eep]

we have no reason to believe trekker. the question is whether he's the sort to bus his scumbuddies. considering the way he acted against stringer, I think this is very likely.

but, I feel like his actions today are enough to place him as scum.

I don't think pine is scum.

I don't want to end the day yet, either (unless sorgster's vote is the hammer?)

battousai, what are your thoughts on all the players who claimed vt?