Obviously, players have to be removed from the game somehow, but not through death. They are just perhaps trapped in an underground bunker controlled by the opposite faction until the game is over, then there is much rejoicing and celebration.
In post 3257, Seacore wrote:Has a game ever been run similiar to the following...
I tried creating a setup like that. Only I had all kinds of alignments. The scum would be the four corners of alignment, each wanting the others gone. Then there were players in the middle: so a chaotic character would cooperate with CG and CE players, but would want any lawful character dead. Chaotic Evil characters want all lawful and good characters dead.
I couldn't work the concept into a viable setup though. Maybe someday I'll dig it up again...
I've seen an untested game in which there are 9 players, all of the different alignments, each wants a different set of people dead. Obviously it's not mafia, but it worked with similar concepts.
Obviously, players have to be removed from the game somehow, but not through death. They are just perhaps trapped in an underground bunker controlled by the opposite faction until the game is over, then there is much rejoicing and celebration.
Hmmm. It seemed better before I typed it all out.
Nothing to see here; move along.
You're missing any mechanism for ending the game, unless you just reskin it as a 'points' game where certain people are flagged as scum for when the bunker opens? Then it's like a No Reveal Nightless No Exit...
In post 3284, Mr. Flay wrote:You're missing any mechanism for ending the game, unless you just reskin it as a 'points' game where certain people are flagged as scum for when the bunker opens? Then it's like a No Reveal Nightless No Exit...
Minesweeper mafia. All players placed on a map. 2 points for every correctly flagged scum at the end of the game (may change during course of game), 1 point for flagging a scum as a question mark at the end of the game, -1 for flagging town with a ? mark at the end of the game, 2 points for selecting a town member who is town (and confirms player as town. player stays in game), -5 points and game ends if you pick a town member who is scum.
-1 point for every real life week that passes (timer).
Every time a town is selected and is town, the number of scum next to that player is displayed. No other investigative roles.
Game ends when either all players are flagged as scum or selected as town correctly OR whenever a scum member is selected as town.
If town have positive points at the end of the game, they win.
In post 3284, Mr. Flay wrote:You're missing any mechanism for ending the game, unless you just reskin it as a 'points' game where certain people are flagged as scum for when the bunker opens? Then it's like a No Reveal Nightless No Exit...
Minesweeper mafia. All players placed on a map. 2 points for every correctly flagged scum at the end of the game (may change during course of game), 1 point for flagging a scum as a question mark at the end of the game, -1 for flagging town with a ? mark at the end of the game, 2 points for selecting a town member who is town (and confirms player as town. player stays in game), -5 points and game ends if you pick a town member who is scum.
-1 point for every real life week that passes (timer).
Every time a town is selected and is town, the number of scum next to that player is displayed. No other investigative roles.
Game ends when either all players are flagged as scum or selected as town correctly OR whenever a scum member is selected as town.
If town have positive points at the end of the game, they win.
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"I, too, would prefer to know the Xalxe of my demise." - Felissan, 2022
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In post 3284, Mr. Flay wrote:You're missing any mechanism for ending the game, unless you just reskin it as a 'points' game where certain people are flagged as scum for when the bunker opens? Then it's like a No Reveal Nightless No Exit...
I've seen a reality TV show that worked along these lines; there was no scum, but it could be reworked for a game that included them. The way that it worked is that players voted for one player to become impossible to vote for for the rest of the game, and that the game ended when everyone agreed on the same player to win (or when the prize money reached 0; it was decreasing constantly over time). The Mafia version would go a bit like this:
First, everyone gets to vote on a player who they think should win the game. Players can't vote for themselves. If the vote is unanimous (i.e. all but one player vote for that player), that player wins, as does everyone in their faction. (It's thus impossible for town to win unless all the possible players to vote for are town, at which point the scum should probably be endgamed instantly to avoid actually playing it all out.)
Then, if that vote wasn't unanimous, everyone gets to vote on a player who they think shouldn't be the player to win the game. Whoever gets the most votes cannot be voted for for the rest of the game (although they can still win if another member of their faction wins the win vote). That player can still vote.
Then go back to step 1, etc.
It's equivalent to regular nightless Mafia where dead players don't flip and can still vote, AFAICT. I suspect it's a rather town-sided mechanic, but that might be balanced with a largish scumteam. I'm not recommending it, though, because no-reveal mechanics tend not to be all that fun. (Incidentally, multiple scumteams would probably work really nicely with the mechanic.)
Alright, so I'm trying to design my original theme trilogy... and I have two different options to go with. One is very sci-fi, involving aliens and other planets and government conspiracies... the other is very dystopian, taking place just after the "apocalypse" with the world trying to rebuild. I have a lot of room to go with the stories. I like the design process of the stories, so if anyone wants to take part in helping create the full universe these games will exist in, I'm looking for a brainstormpartner.
In post 3292, xRECKONERx wrote:Alright, so I'm trying to design my original theme trilogy... and I have two different options to go with. One is very sci-fi, involving aliens and other planets and government conspiracies... the other is very dystopian, taking place just after the "apocalypse" with the world trying to rebuild. I have a lot of room to go with the stories. I like the design process of the stories, so if anyone wants to take part in helping create the full universe these games will exist in, I'm looking for a brainstormpartner.
When are you looking to start? I might want something to work on after WiH3 ends...
In post 3284, Mr. Flay wrote:You're missing any mechanism for ending the game, unless you just reskin it as a 'points' game where certain people are flagged as scum for when the bunker opens? Then it's like a No Reveal Nightless No Exit...
Minesweeper mafia. All players placed on a map. 2 points for every correctly flagged scum at the end of the game (may change during course of game), 1 point for flagging a scum as a question mark at the end of the game, -1 for flagging town with a ? mark at the end of the game, 2 points for selecting a town member who is town (and confirms player as town. player stays in game), -5 points and game ends if you pick a town member who is scum.
-1 point for every real life week that passes (timer).
Every time a town is selected and is town, the number of scum next to that player is displayed. No other investigative roles.
Game ends when either all players are flagged as scum or selected as town correctly OR whenever a scum member is selected as town.
If town have positive points at the end of the game, they win.
Instead of the massive amounts of players, you could easily make town the bombs or something. Say, 10 town bombs and 2 scum bombs - you still get the clue numbers you recieve in normal minesweeper, which tells you if you're close to bombs, but you don't know if they're scum or town. Maybe, if you had an actual map going, each player could actually know their own position on the board, so they could try and steer discussion away from it? What if you couldn't vote until you actually find a player on the map?
Although I'm months and games away from theme modding, would anyone be interested in musical note mafia? Major vs minor, or sharps vs flats? With perhaps an atonal serial killer? With roles based around a song in that key.
Re minesweeper mafia, I suppose you'd have to add an extra rule, something like you can only click a square on the board every two pages, to make sure discussion still happens. Actually, a mechanic like that would probably really help discussion day 1.
I'm thinking about starting work on another video game universe based game. I am trying to decide if I want to do Microsoft, Sega, or Sony. I want to do a Large theme, but a mini theme would be fine. If anyone wants to help, let me know.
Looking for experienced designers to help me design
