Imperial Intrigue (Endgame, OUT OF NOWHERE)

[Wraith]

Spoiler: Daybreak

The

Beran

stood motionless in the darkened throne hall, staring up at the Burning Throne with hands clasped behind his back. "I haven't failed. Not yet," he muttered under his breath. He heard one of the great doors creak behind him. "Ah, a man of the Brotherhood. A bearer of bad news, I presume?" he said without turning his head. The black-cloaked man silently walked to a point just behind shoulder. A gloved hand appeared from under the folds, holding a slip of paper. The

Beran

look at the paper, then at the face shadowed beneath the cowl. "You certainly are a quiet group...but loyal and prompt, at least." Sturmengard took the paper and unfolded it to reveal a short summary of the night's events. He smirked and looked back at his shoulder - but the Watcher was gone. He looked back up at the Burning Throne and murmered, "No, not quite yet."

PeregrineV

,

7th Legion "Berserkers" (Eastern Enabling Traitor)

, Murdered Night Five

manho

,

4th Legion "Deathbringers" (Bremburg Recruited Traitor)

, Murdered Night Five

Deadline for today is

November 21, 2011

. Day deadlines have been shortened once again due to dragging and inactivity.

With 9 alive it takes

5

to lynch.

[Magua]

I was so certain that Andrius was going to flip mafia. And that EtherealCookie was going to be his partner. I could taste it.

Luckily, the mafia has helped us out tremendously, and I was right on manho.

@Mod:

Is this NAR, where recruitment comes after kills? Is it guaranteed that manho was recruited before N5?
Also, what is an "Enabling" Traitor?

[Wraith]

I was so certain that Andrius was going to flip mafia. And that EtherealCookie was going to be his partner. I could taste it.

Luckily, the mafia has helped us out tremendously, and I was right on manho.

@Mod:

Is this NAR, where recruitment comes after kills? Is it guaranteed that manho was recruited before N5?
Also, what is an "Enabling" Traitor?

Yes.

Something sufficiently cryptic.

Also I forgot to send out the massprod.

[MattP]

I still feel pretty sure about Magua/EC.

MacDougall, question, why did you so quickly revote andrius after Magua's little censor rage?

[MacDougall]

I have also changed my position on Magua. Methinks he is scum.

I changed my stance because expletives aside, his point was valid, and after all I did think Andrius was scum...

VOTE: Magua

[MacDougall]

Second part is a response to your question MattP in case it was confusing.

[MattP]

Nah, I got that

Yeah, I'm gonna vote Magua as well. No, I'm not bandwagoning MacDougall, I had voted Magua yesterday and I intend to follow through with that vote today. Him and EC, if I'm wrong I'll eat rusty nails.

vote: Magua

[Nero Cain]

I figured that scum would be all over me today. lol

Hey Dougall. You are no longer my biggest scum read but its HARD to give you a town read b/c you're so flip floppy. As of post 1325 Mag was a town read and MattP was your biggest scumread. But your voting Mag, so what changed your mind? Was it Andys flip? Is Matt P still on your list?

We should be voting Vezok or EC.

vote:Vezok

[MattP]

I figured that scum would be all over me today. lol

Hey Dougall. You are no longer my biggest scum read but its HARD to give you a town read b/c you're so flip floppy. As of post 1325 Mag was a town read and MattP was your biggest scumread. But your voting Mag, so what changed your mind? Was it Andys flip? Is Matt P still on your list?

We should be voting Vezok or EC.

vote:Vezok

I am up for Magua or EC currently, but why Vezok over Magua? Do you think Magua is a village read and why?

[MacDougall]

I don't necessarily have a town read on MattP Nero. but the way Magua went about his actions yesterday, heavily influencing the lynch in subtle ways, his choice of scum reads + his actions today + the fact that almost every remaining player except me has a veritable scum read on him ... altered my read on him. It's not much more than a gut call, but my gut read on him is pretty strong.

[vezokpiraka]

I figured that scum would be all over me today. lol

Hey Dougall. You are no longer my biggest scum read but its HARD to give you a town read b/c you're so flip floppy. As of post 1325 Mag was a town read and MattP was your biggest scumread. But your voting Mag, so what changed your mind? Was it Andys flip? Is Matt P still on your list?

We should be voting Vezok or EC.

vote:Vezok

Oh nonono.

You aren't getting away. Don't worry.

Right here we have some sort of scum roleblocker. I just got blocked tonight. Probably in order not to be able to save myself with some sort of ability I had.

Joke's on you. I'm VT.

Now die.

vote NC

[MattP]

Wait, what? But you don't know WHO roleblocked you. On top of that, how do you know you were roleblocked, you're told those things?

[kdowns]

VOTE: MattP

If only you read the rest of 1410 you would see that he said "Jokes on you. I'm VT"

Your reaction is clearly scum.

[MattP]

VOTE: MattP

If only you read the rest of 1410 you would see that he said "Jokes on you. I'm VT"

Your reaction is clearly scum.

Lolwut? I acknowledge he said that. I'm asking him how he knows he was rbd and how he knows it was Nero Cain. Isn't VT Vanilla Townie? As in, they don't have any specials?

[MacDougall]

It's already established that we get told we were roleblocked. It happened to me on night 2 and if you read carefully through the OP's it says it.

[MattP]

It's already established that we get told we were roleblocked. It happened to me on night 2 and if you read carefully through the OP's it says it.

Oh ok then, whoops.

[Nero Cain]

I am up for Magua or EC currently, but why Vezok over Magua? Do you think Magua is a village read and why?

I was right about Manho so I have no reason to doubt my Vezok and EC scum reads.

I don't necessarily have a town read on MattP Nero. but the way Magua went about his actions yesterday, heavily influencing the lynch in subtle ways, his choice of scum reads + his actions today + the fact that almost every remaining player except me has a veritable scum read on him ... altered my read on him. It's not much more than a gut call, but my gut read on him is pretty strong.

I get the whole Mag should be scrutinized thing but the other players should be held accountable for their votes as well.

Oh nonono.

You aren't getting away. Don't worry.

Right here we have some sort of scum roleblocker. I just got blocked tonight. Probably in order not to be able to save myself with some sort of ability I had.

Joke's on you. I'm VT.

Now die.

vote NC

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!?

This is a pretty huge leap of logic here.


Where the hell is everyone?

[Wraith]

Good question.

AGar

and

EC

are about to be prodded and

Bogre

is about to be replaced.

[Bogre]

Was at a conference this weekend.

Vezok, are you claiming that NC is the scum roleblocker, or was that separate?

Not thinking that Mattp's reaction was a scum tell.

VOTE: EC

Biggest thing here is the concentration on Vezok to almost the point of exclusion of anyone else, which is a waste, given that Vezok is always horribly scummy and hard to understand. Easy to look like you're participating a lot and having a big say because scumhunting against Vezok is on easy mode.

[kdowns]

Am I the only one who read the Vezok claimed VT?

[MattP]

Am I the only one who read the Vezok claimed VT?

Everyone read it. I don't understand how that makes NC mafia. I think you're missing the point here.

[Nero Cain]

Oh Kdowns doesn't think it makes me mafia since he isn't voting me but I don't see what the VT claim has to do with

ANYTHING

!!!

this needs explanation.

[Magua]

I still feel pretty sure about Magua/EC.

Which scumteam do you see me on? Empking/PeregrineV, or StrangerCoug/manho?

What about EtherealCookie?

I have also changed my position on Magua. Methinks he is scum.

I changed my stance because expletives aside, his point was valid, and after all I did think Andrius was scum...

...

I thought Andrius was scum too. I was convinced of it. I was wrong.

That said, your reason for voting me -- that Andrius flipped town -- is bullshit because if all I wanted was town dead, I could've just hammered you yesterday.

You're still town. I'm just saying your reasoning here completely sucks.

Yeah, I'm gonna vote Magua as well. No, I'm not bandwagoning MacDougall, I had voted Magua yesterday and I intend to follow through with that vote today. Him and EC, if I'm wrong I'll eat rusty nails.

I'd hate for you to get tetanus. But let's say you lynch me and I flip town. Will you go after EtherealCookie tomorrow?

For me, my scumread on EtherealCookie has diminished quite a bit with the Andrius-town flip.
Macdougall is still town.
kdowns is still town.
vezokpiraka is *probably* town.

Leaves Bogre, AGar, Matt, and Nero Cain.

Of those, Bogre is now my main suspect by far. I liked his 1418, but looking back over his ISO, his suspicion of EtherealCookie goes back to D5, but doesn't seem to be adjusted in light of Andrius-town, Peregrine-scum or manho-scum. It's like he's picked his read and is sticking to it without re-evaluating; also, he managed to get through D5 without ever once giving an opinion or comment on the Andrius wagon.

VOTE: Bogre

[EtherealCookie]

Welp. Suspicions of Magua return. I recall him pushing for Manho's lynch last day too. He's very likely on the other scum team.

VOTE: Magua

[Magua]

Welp. Suspicions of Magua return. I recall him pushing for Manho's lynch last day too. He's very likely on the other scum team.

VOTE: Magua

The one with Empking?