Mini 327 - Star Trek Mafia. Game Over.

[DrippingGoofball]

Bumpity-bump!

[Mastermind of Sin]

lol, I hate to be unhelpful at this point, but I pretty much agree with your last set of reasoning. I am equally suspicious of leo and sham, but I'm gonna be gone for the weekend so no vote yet.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am waiting to hear more of either before voting as well. But I'd like to hear more from Leonidas. He's still lurking. I don't like it one bit! It's very suspicious at this point.

If there is a third vote on Shamrock, I'll be glad to hammer. After he claims, naturally, and if there is a concensus that his claim doesn't hold water. It he has a believable claim, someone can unvote.

[mlaker]

Let's get something moving and I'd like to hear from Shamrock.

[Leonidas]

Let me get this straight: look where my last post is compared to others, and you dare say I'm lurking?

I hope you're mafia, Drippin'. Your quick judgments and misrepresentations should logically cost us the game if you are protown.

And if you still don't understand how you got my vote on the last page, I suggest you reread your own logic. But I'll help: it has to do with crappy logic, along with high probability of not being the doc anyway.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yes, I know you made a few posts recently, but in terms of actual content, and exposing your own logic and thought processes, there wasn't much to them. That's why I'd like to hear more from you, Leonidas, you should tell us how you feel about everybody. Who you think the scum is, etc.

Again I am puzzled by your lack of explanation as to what makes my logic crappy. Maybe it is; if it is, and you bring up something I missed and misinterpreted, I will reconsider.

I am also puzzled as to why, since I am not claiming doc, you'd be so willing to sacrifice me.

Please share your thoughts some more, please - put more content in your next post. Please address the points myself and others have made (and point out where they are incorrect) and point out who you find most suspicious and why (not just me, please, we already know that).

[Shamrock]

I think both of you are SCUMMY. I don't think both of you are SCUM - that would be stupid, esp. since we have no evidence of a SK or anything.

Vote: Leodinas

; I'm getting worse vibes from him because of his reflexive vote and his accusations against DG really don't seem to make a ton of sense.

[DrippingGoofball]

Do we need a deadline? Or Mod Prods?

Unofficial cote count...
Shamrock 3 : (Leonidas, mlaker, Leonidas)
Leonidas 1 : (DGB)

[Leonidas]

Shamrock I believe to be scum. His last post is, for me a least, quite clear, and the previous ones were noteworthy too.

Again - third attempt to explain to you why voting you was the best option (before Shamrock posted). You claim someone should be bandwagoned, but you fear to bandwagon the doc.

I happen to agree with you - but by saying that you are afraid to bandwagon the doc, you become very unlikely to BE the doc. So -

by applying your own logic

- you become the best bandwagon target, with a minimal chance of bandwagoning the doc. Do you see the point now?

Btw, Drippin, your vote is on me (a fact for which I really do not praise you if you are town), and I only have one vote, which I am using on Shamrock. I could say that you may be trying to mislead the town with your non-sensical vote counts, but I won't because I'm much less certain of your guilt than of Shamrock's.

If you're town and still believe I am your best vote for the day, then, errr - bah?

[mlaker]

I'm pretty comfortable with my Shamrock vote, I'd like a claim.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Shamrock I believe to be scum. His last post is, for me a least, quite clear, and the previous ones were noteworthy too.

this is a very noncommital post that tells us NOTHING whatsoever about leonidas' reasons for voting shamrock. It's just yet another copout post without any real substance on the matters he claims to address.

vote: Leonidas

[Leonidas]

Best guess for remaining scums: Shamrock + MoS.

I don't intend to claim, btw.

[Seol]

Do we need a deadline?

asked a grey, mis-shapen blob.

"Well", says Q, "you obviously haven't been paying attention. There already

is

a deadline - you only have two weeks per day. That gives you until Monday the 19th..."

The current vote count is as follows:

Leonidas: 3 (DrippingGoofball, Shamrock, Mastermind of Sin)
Shamrock: 2 (Leonidas, mlaker)

[Mastermind of Sin]

Best guess for remaining scums: Shamrock + MoS.

I don't intend to claim, btw.

wow, impressive...call out two of the people voting you as scum without even bothering to address their reasons for voting you, giving the impression that they are in fact correct in their reasoning, since you don't have any sort of response to it. Then, saying you won't claim, but not even giving a reason for that, either. That's a great way to make us think you aren't scum...

[Shamrock]

Mlaker, would you care to actually put a reason there besides following Leonidas?

Actually, now that I look back over it, it looks like you put the FOS on me, but you didn't want to be seen as starting a bandwagon so you waited until Leo casted the first vote...

[Leonidas]

MoS, MoS...

Why should I answer Shamrock's "accusation" when I said over and over that I believe him to be scum?

[Leonidas]

Short study on scummitude, with MoS showing us how it's done.

Then, saying you won't claim, but not even giving a reason for that, either.

Townies are not over-eager to claim, in general. Or to rephrase: it is not in the town's best interest to have townies claim. You should know that - if you're town, that is.

That's a great way to make

us

think you aren't scum...

That sentence alone would get my vote, were it not invested on a high-return low-risk mafioso candidate already.

[DrippingGoofball]

Townies are not over-eager to claim, in general. Or to rephrase: it is not in the town's best interest to have townies claim. You should know that - if you're town, that is.

True. However, every once in a blue moon, a Townie gives off scummy vibes and gets bandwagonned. When that happens, the Townie is motivated to claim. You can learn a lot looking at how others behave to the claim, also.

Scum likes Townies to claim, but they themselves are rarely eager to do so, for it might expose their scumminess big time.

[Leonidas]

1) Reread post 133.

2) Forget you're you.

3) If you still don't see my the vote on you was not only justified, but also my best path as a townie, then we can talk again. However, you will need to write the sentence: "Leo, I believe that your post 133 lacks logic". Just copy/paste it or something.

[mlaker]

I decided to point out your scummy post and see who followed. I basically just started pressure on you, and I wanted to see where that pressure would lead you. So far your defense has been aggressive and I don't follow it. I'd still like a claim.

[Leonidas]

To the cop: I'd really prefer to avoid claiming, so if by chance you investigated me and found me innocent, don't hesitate. Also - if Shamrock is innocent (which would really cast a new perspective on things, not that I expect this to be true), then please share.

Drippin', please post that you have read and understood my previous mail.

[Shamrock]

Alright, fine.

I'm Riker - no special powers, but my PM doesn't explicitly say I'm a vanilla townie so I might end up getting some at some point. I dunno.

[DrippingGoofball]

Leo, I don't understand the post you made. Youre not voting for me, you're voting for Shamrock, so I thought you were addressing Shamrock.

In any event - after your post 143, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I am also going to give Shamrock the benefit of the doubt, because his role rings a lot like mine.

There's still mlaker and MoS I'd like to eliminate from my scum list.

Truth is, I'm not finding much damning evidence on either, except for small glitches in their voting patterns...

[DrippingGoofball]

Of course...

unvote

[Leonidas]

Alright.

unvote, vote: MoS

and let's see who follows.

Again - to the cop: given the way roles are not revealed upon death, I guess the probability of a GF is really, really low. So if you have an innocent result on Shamrock, please share, it would really change my perspective on the game.