Final Fantasy 6 Mafia - Game Over

[MagnaofIllusion]

Vote Count 9.3 - As of post 625

MacDougall (2) - Mist Beauty, diddin
TheFool (1) - MacDougall

Not Voting (3) -WrathChild, TheFool, sword_of_omens

The Current deadline is April 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 am EDT. Countdown is (expired on 2012-04-03 10:00:00).

With 6 active votes - 4 are required to lynch.

Activity Check - Mist Beauty and diddin are being prodded.

[MacDougall]

yes,
i'm pretty sure scum knew the lynch mechanics ahead of time when the game started...
in order to cover their bases on the days when the wagon leader would get the items i'm sure a few of them would start different wagons..
i want to see if there is a pattern between the wagon leaders, and compare it to the days when it would be the hammer that got it. see if there is a pattern between the 2...such as certain people always leading a wagon on leader days, and always waiting on hammer days..

Interesting, but what was the thought you had that didn't "line up".

[sword_of_omens]

i was thinking carbuncle roleblocked, and was trying to see if whether or not Fool/scum might've given up a kill he so he could R/B Diddin instead on the no-kill night where there was no JK by Mist...however, Diddin claimed to have got results that night...

[diddin]

I exist... still think McD is the best option today.

[MacDougall]

Sweet contributions diddin.

After the last two posts from SoO I am very confident he is town, even more so than before. TheFool must have just not killed for cred.

Lynch me tonight, then diddin use your strongman kill on TheFool during the night? Would that work?

[sword_of_omens]

damn, my head is killing me on this shit...
I reread everything…and the NO-kills just to assume town cred does not make sense for The Fool. If that were the case, he would have at least R/B'd Diddin to keep from being discovered. Not just sat back and hoped..
it does however make a little more sense in this scenario:
I have a real bad feeling that MB is last remaining scum and is Godfather...
She originally claims VT, which makes sense if she is GF as she would have passive investigative/namecop immunity.
N7 fiasco- We popcorned MB and she stated that she had rec'd the JK. When asked to relay her targets, she originally did not want to (maybe to stall?) and then gave in and said she could not use it on her first night of receipt and then sent it in too late on the next night. So She did not use it at all both nights. I'm betting she sent in kills those nights instead. Fool ruined her plan on N7 by doc'ing Diddin.
N8- she has to prove she has the JK ability so JK's Diddin. Hence the no-kill. The plus side to this on her end is that she keeps Diddin from confirming another townie.
Curious behavior from Mist Beauty:
Day 2 she had multiple unvote/votes near the end of lynch as if she was trying to hammer on a "hammer day"
On the TS lynch day, MB seemed

overly eager

to prove herself town by distancing herself from TS
she did not vote on TS and did not post until near the end with:

I'm here and not hammering. My vote would be on TS if she weren't at L-1

diddin better get in here before they self hammer...

actually, can someone unvote so that they don't self hammer? when diddin gets on we can vote again then hammer. this could go both ways, but we're lynching scum, right?

honestly, with so many eyes on who would hammer, it would not make any sense for scum to jump in and hammer. This reads as a needles attempt to appear town.
Other times when she seems to try too hard to look town:
Mist Beauty tries to act as frustrated town when she fake replaced out
Mist Beauty fake, fake hammers

[MagnaofIllusion]

So Mist Beauty has failed to pick up her prod. I will begin looking for a replacement now ...

[MagnaofIllusion]

And like a bolt from the blue Ghostlin steps in to replace Mist and save the day! Welcome him warmly!

[sword_of_omens]

welcome Ghostlin!
Fey and MOI were nice enough to put together a user friendly archive on all of our lost data back on page 23 along with all the flips.

[diddin]

Sweet contributions diddin.

After the last two posts from SoO I am very confident he is town, even more so than before. TheFool must have just not killed for cred.

Lynch me tonight, then diddin use your strongman kill on TheFool during the night? Would that work?

This sounds all right to me, I guess.

And yeah, sword is pretty solid town to me.

[sword_of_omens]

lol Diddin...did you even read my last post?
any thoughts at all?

[Ghostlin]

welcome Ghostlin!
Fey and MOI were nice enough to put together a user friendly archive on all of our lost data back on page 23 along with all the flips.

I'll need time to read it; it looks like McD is leading in votes at the moment.

SOO, something jumps out here. If you have a case built against MB (who I replaced), why aren't you voting MB?

[Ghostlin]

Also, to make sure I don't have my own concieved notions at the time of when I'm ready to dedicate my vote:

Unvote.

[sword_of_omens]

it only takes 4 to lynch, and i'm not eager to rush lynch anyone this late in the game...
i'd prefer to look at everything from all angles...
also, there are lynch mechanics..

[TheFool]

Wow, Ghostlin, thanks for stepping in. Good luck on the readthrough, it's a bit large.

SoO makes some good points about Mist. For what it's worth, TE did confirm that Mist was itemless (page 111). Would being a flavor godfather be a passive thing?

I've had trouble reading Mist all game. There's so much there to focus on that I'm not really sure any of it's scum-driven as opposed to crazy playstyle tells.

I could see a Mist lynch, though I prefer a MacD lynch. I think the case is better there, and I think the positioning is better as well, since most of the possible remaining teams of two have a MacDougall in them.

[MacDougall]

Passive abilities have items associated too, like the neighbourhood admitting magitek armor. So Mist is vanilla, and town due to diddin's action. I find it interesting that despite me sitting at L-2 for ages, and TheFool having a scum read on me, he hasn't put me at L-1. Very town play for the only possible scum player. Doesn't apply so much to SoO as scum he would look weird just changing his mind to put me at L-1, but he is town for other reasons.

A thought has been plaguing me for a while, but what if the lack of night kills is due to the fact that there is no scum left? Like we just have a rogue with limited or no night kills left, or the scum night kill ability was associated with the Bahamat Magicite that is now in diddin's hands? Is it possible that the scum could have no power to kill anymore?

[sword_of_omens]

Passive abilities have items associated too

not necessarily, MD
Given Pidgey's name and roletitle on his flip, he would be an example of having an ability without an item...
I'm pretty sure flavor GF would be passive and avail only to the GF

[sword_of_omens]

EBWOP: also, in regards to your no scum thought...
I highly doubt it, if that were the case then there would only be 3 Scum in the game...

[Ghostlin]

A thought has been plaguing me for a while, but what if the lack of night kills is due to the fact that there is no scum left? Like we just have a rogue with limited or no night kills left, or the scum night kill ability was associated with the Bahamat Magicite that is now in diddin's hands? Is it possible that the scum could have no power to kill anymore?

I doubt this a lot. Although it's making me question that if you were scum, besides obfuscation, why you would ask this question.

Anyone else want to tell me what's going on that's making McD next on the block?

[WrathChild]

I'm here. I spent a lot of time on my other game tonight, so I'll get back on this one during my next free time window while I'm traveling.

[MacDougall]

Passive abilities have items associated too

not necessarily, MD
Given Pidgey's name and roletitle on his flip, he would be an example of having an ability without an item...
I'm pretty sure flavor GF would be passive and avail only to the GF

Hmm okay then well your thought process does have some merit then.

I actually am starting to doubt Foolscum too just due to him not voting on me quickly. Something Mist did. Getting pissy and trading out would be a bizarre thing for a scum player to do though.

[MagnaofIllusion]

MOD PROD CHECK - All players are currently good.

[WrathChild]

Why do people assume scum has a role blocker?

[sword_of_omens]

Well Diddin (after claiming namecop) was failing on his vesty's up until Carbuncle was dropped at lynch...
normally you could say it might be because of either him or his target was JK'd,
but on night 3 we know Pidgey was JK'd yet Diddin's vesty on me didn't go through..how else would you explain it?

[sword_of_omens]

Ghostlin, i know you have your work cut out for you with all of the back reading you have to do, but how far up to date are you?