In post 182, projectmatt wrote:This post irks me the wrong way.
Analysis:
This game is slow moving and boring.
Analysis #2:
We need momentum.
Conclusion:
Let's make this game actually worth playing. We could start by gathering around and sharing all of our reads in depth with reasoning. I'll do mine later.
A quick, incomplete summary on what I think:
- The whole neighbor pairing was based on a claim and we got nothing out of it. IIRC the neighbors were supposedly bunnylover and someone else (I truly don't remember right now). If that claim had a purpose it hasn't been fulfilled by now, as we're not discussing it anymore and we're not anywhere near lynching/questioning either of them.
- I listed Mastin as scummiest because of his reasoning and proposed scum groups without giving too much reasoning behind it. Even though this was pointed out by some other members, he justified himself as playing some sort of reaction hunting and getting nothing out of it. Also, some players' reactions towards it suggest that this is how he plays, so it's a nulltell at best. Gets townpoints for continuing dicussion.
- Damon claiming cop at this point is a curious move IMHO and I tend to believe him. However, pretty much all arguments in this regard will be useless until D2 when we know a bit more about Damon's night (and yes, while I can foresee many headaches coming out of this early claim, I don't like figuring out probable scenarios if we don't know how many and which kind of players are there)
- I've been meaning to wonder why there was a wagon on lowell, but I haven't read his Iso. At least one person (chkflip) has abandoned that wagon, in order to vote Damon (I'm assuming chkflip does believe knowing the truth on Damon right now is a better choice than lynching lowell for whatever he's done)
- On pretty much everyone else: I haven't noticed any relevant relationships to raise a scum alert and my tells are very weak (mostly based on activity and quality of consecutive posts). However, I must admit I haven't read all Isos properly to know better.
In post 184, chkflip wrote:I'm not answering Andy's questions because those things have already been covered in my posts.
#NotAnAnsweringMachine
Thank you for not replying. I'll read your ISO and see if any of your posts specifically answer my questions. If not, I'll try again.
In post 185, Kise wrote:unvote
Vote: Andy
I was thinking kondi was the proper move but I see others prepping suspicion on him. That seems like a DG alternative just being somewhat thrown out there, but not rushed. I'd vote Sly next since Andy isn't bringing up the obvious thing here - Sly pushing a vote on the claimed cop. But, like others have said, not sure if scum would keep pushing to eliminate a cop like this. I've had a lot of experience with scum gambits but I can't figure out an angle Slyscum would be using here, so I don't think he's a baddie.
But onto you, Andy. It's been a week and a half and you've done the cliche cautious play. You're making no impressions and haven't cemented any reads outside of weak modifiers such as 'leaning town' and 'slightly suspicious'. What you DO do (doodoo?) is cool the jets for Sly by making it seem like his push isn't so wrong, hence why I say I'd look into him if you flip scum as there seems to be some kind of damage control going on with the way you're taking DG's claim.
Others prepping suspicion on me? Pardon me for being paranoid, but this is the first time I've been voted on in this game; the most suspicion I've been in was a few posts ago when Lowell gave me a FoS; but OK, you're free to vote.
About Sly's opinion: I understand his reasoning, but I'm completely against lynching Damon today. I do think his push for DG is wrong right now, but I share his preoccupation with the claim (as it can lead to lots of very difficult discussion later on)
Yes, my tells right now are very weak because all I have to work with is this thread and my memories of the pre-crash thread (I lost my offline notes). These tells are mostly people posting infrequently, one-liners and deliberately bad reasoning (or sarcasm), which can be attributed to many things, not just being scum.
