NY 150: Mob Money Mafia GAME OVER

[mcqueen]

PE: Awww, shit. Who let McQueen in here?

I've been in the game, and if you don't like it, you can leave.

[mcqueen]

Other than Bunny, my biggest suspect was Damon, but that's clearly a dead line of inquiry. I recall having strong Town reads on all participants in the Palisade hydra, except possibly Nacho. Haven't caught up yet, I'll get around to it soon. Bunny needs to die.

And what about the possibility that T-Bone actually cut it down to a town-town neighbor group?

[Pine]

Very unlikely, particularly as Bunny has NOT acted in the manner I would expect from an experienced player getting a Town Neighbor PM.

[Oversoul]

Pine literally had zero posts yesterday. I had not seen Pine post in this game. At all. Mind explaining to me why he was "almost certainly town"? There's no possible way you should expect me to get a townread on someone off of zero posts.

This looks like bullshit.

You do realize we had like 20 something pages to go off with the other thread right? You are speaking as if the other thread never existed and it was impossible for Nacho to get a read on Pine from it.

Ya.

No.

VOTE: BBmolla

I am trusting Pine, but I believe he is telling the truth about Bunny who is also another good lynch.

[Twistedspoon]

This really doesn't feel like town BB to me

"but pine did this too...." just isn't the town arguments that are characteristic of the BB i've played with.
Admittedly he's had about half as much info to analyse as the rest of us, but that's no reason to keep him alve for that sake.
And his Nacho vote is a horrible omgus.... on Nacho of all people...

[chkflip]

VOTE: BBmolla

Can't say I didn't tell you so.

[BBmolla]

Pine literally had zero posts yesterday. I had not seen Pine post in this game. At all. Mind explaining to me why he was "almost certainly town"? There's no possible way you should expect me to get a townread on someone off of zero posts.

This looks like bullshit.

You do realize we had like 20 something pages to go off with the other thread right? You are speaking as if the other thread never existed and it was impossible for Nacho to get a read on Pine from it.

Ya.

No.

VOTE: BBmolla

I am trusting Pine, but I believe he is telling the truth about Bunny who is also another good lynch.

Read the post again.

I'm not saying Nacho couldn't, I'm saying it's silly to assume I could get a read off of no posts.

[BBmolla]

This really doesn't feel like town BB to me

"but pine did this too...." just isn't the town arguments that are characteristic of the BB i've played with.
Admittedly he's had about half as much info to analyse as the rest of us, but that's no reason to keep him alve for that sake.
And his Nacho vote is a horrible omgus.... on Nacho of all people...

You didn't even read my post did you?

I don't even understand the point you're making here.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: BBmolla

Can't say I didn't tell you so.

lol

[BBmolla]

Pine literally had zero posts yesterday. I had not seen Pine post in this game. At all. Mind explaining to me why he was "almost certainly town"? There's no possible way you should expect me to get a townread on someone off of zero posts.

This looks like bullshit.

You do realize we had like 20 something pages to go off with the other thread right? You are speaking as if the other thread never existed and it was impossible for Nacho to get a read on Pine from it.

Ya.

No.

VOTE: BBmolla

I am trusting Pine, but I believe he is telling the truth about Bunny who is also another good lynch.

Read the post again.

I'm not saying Nacho couldn't, I'm saying it's silly to assume I could get a read off of no posts.

Just to add on, my argument is that Nacho is saying I should know that Pine is "almost certainly town" when I have no reason to believe so. He is pushing this case on me when he has acknowledged the fact that I didn't read the previous thread and would have no idea that Pine was "almost certainly town."

He is lying. He's using my lack of knowledge and attempting to twist it to be scummy. And apparently it's working if you're blindly following him.

[mcqueen]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BBmolla

See ya later, mate. I also know, from meta, that this is not town BBmolla, rather scum BBmolla.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BBmolla

See ya later, mate. I also know, from meta, that this is not town BBmolla, rather scum BBmolla.

Okay. Then explain. How is my play here different?

Whoever also used this argument also explain the differences.

[BBmolla]

Why do I feel like I'm the only sane person in this game.

[chkflip]

I don't like the speed in which this wagon is building, but I can't tell if they're bussing or just scum.

Read later.

[SlySly]

VOTE: Nacho

Entered game as a replacement. Immediately soft claimed as being a mason with Mastin. Had a lengthy discussion with me about how masons can't be scum in a normal game. After thread disappeared, retracted soft claim.

[mastin2]

There is NO way this BBMolla is forming so easily on scum. I'll need to check the names to make certain. But that wagon STINKS of scum.

[mastin2]

As it stands,
BBMolla - Nacho, TS, Oversoul, chkflip, mcqueen
Nacho - BBMolla, SlySly

The relevant bandwagons.

I really wanna say all the members of Palisade are town. I really,

really

do. And mcqueen wasn't playing as he did as scum, which made me think he was town. And chkflip is playing as I'd expect him to if he were town, and he replaced someone I had a slight townlean on.

But it's forming...well, too...

easily

to be a scumwagon. Too fast, too tempting. And while Chimera was overall a nullread, he was very slightly leaning town, a trend BBMolla continued: weak-town, and looking like he *could* be scum, but overall feeling like he wasn't.

The wagon just feels...*wrong*.

That said, the counterwagon is far, far worse.

[mastin2]

So let's review.

1. Projectmatt <--SUSPECT.

2. Twistedspoon <--I *want* him to be town. But it's weak. Veeeeery weak.

3. Pizzadudes7 <--SUSPECT.

4. Kise <--Town.

7. Oversoul <--I *Want* him to be town. But it's a weak read--stronger than TS, but by no means solid.

8. SlySly <--SUSPECT.

9. BBmolla <--Null, but with a townlean.

10. Pine <--I *want* him to be town. I really, really do. But he's a weaker townread than Oversoul, and maybe weaker than TS, even.

11. Nachomamma8 <--Town.
12. Kondi2424 <--Town.
14. Andycyca <--Most likely town.

15. Chkflip <--Strong townlean.
16. Mcqueen <--Strong townlean.

17. Bunnylover <--Seemed town before.

[mastin2]

My list boils down to this, right now:

TOWN: (These people are without a doubt town and if any of them were scum it'd by scummy-nom worthy)
Nacho
Kise
Kondi
mcqueen
chkflip

WEAKER TOWN: (These people are probably town)
Andycyca
Damon Gant

NULL: (These people have potential to be scum, but probably aren't)
Bunnylover

MINOR SUSPECT POOL: (These people are in the suspect pool technically, in that I still need to keep an eye on them and review what I know, but they still have an above-average chance of being town*)
BBMolla
Oversoul
Twistedspoon

MAJOR SUSPECT POOL: (These people most likely contain the entire scumteam, although it's possible they have one member in the above category.)
Matt
Pizza
Lowell
Sly
Pine

*...That made more sense in my head. They're basically "maybe-scum" (to compare, Bunny's "potentially-[but-probably-not-]scum", which makes Bunny more town, but only slightly). I can't think of a better way to put it.

Thinking this through...

TOWN:
Nacho
Kise
Kondi

WEAKER TOWN:
mcqueen
chkflip
Andycyca

NULL:
Bunnylover

MINOR SUSPECT POOL:
BBMolla
Oversoul
Twistedspoon

MAJOR SUSPECT POOL: (These people most likely contain the entire scumteam, although it's possible they have one member in the above category.)
Matt
Pizza
Sly
Pine

I actually still like this. Pine *might* need to move up, though in order to do so, someone else'd need to move down.

[mastin2]

Okay, so maybe BBMolla is scum after all. Since from what I know of BBMolla, well...this doesn't remind me of his townplay, either. His posts on this page are basically horribad. And I'm moving chkflip back up, after having previously moved him down, for having pointed out my concern before even I did.

(Until this post, I hadn't actually read any of page 11 or the end of page 10; I just paid attention to the votes, noticing the alarming number on BBMolla.)

[mastin2]

In fact.

Unvote, Vote: BBMolla

.

If I did the math right (15 alive, 8 to lynch, 5 votes plus mine), this should be L-2.

I want a claim.

[BBmolla]

Okay. Then explain. How is my play here different?

This is fucking ridiculous. I'm getting lynched off of non-existant meta and a case that I SHOWED WAS WRONG.

[BBmolla]

There is NO way this BBMolla is forming so easily on scum. I'll need to check the names to make certain. But that wagon STINKS of scum.

In fact.

Unvote, Vote: BBMolla

.

If I did the math right (15 alive, 8 to lynch, 5 votes plus mine), this should be L-2.

I want a claim.

^Mastin is this a joke.

[T-Bone]

Vote Count

BBmolla - 6 (Nacho, Twistedspoon, Oversoul, Chkflip, Mcqueen, Mastin)
Bunnylover - 1 (Pine)
Nacho - 2 (BBmolla, SlySly)

Not Voting - Projectmatt, Pizzadudes7, Kise, Kondi, Andycyca, Bunnylover

With 15 Alive, it takes 8 to Lynch

Deadline is Sunday April 8th, 11:59pm EST

[BBmolla]

You know what, whatever. One less game I have to reread.

Scum tell your buddies to hop on so I can claim.