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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:27 pm

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In post 674, MacDougall wrote:
In post 673, TheFool wrote:
In post 669, WrathChild wrote:Why would MacD self-target on a watch? It's like the worst play ever, only slightly less if you are scum. Why did that item disappear after one use while all others remained with less effectiveness. Something is wrong with that story. It doesn't feel right.

Agreed, it especially doesn't match up with Mist's every-other-day JK, considering the Queen's Guard should have degraded twice (Iec > TS > Mist).


Mist lied then.

Possibly. The whole thing's weird, really. We've got:

Doc: Unlimited use --> every other day use
Jailkeeper: Unlimited use --> ??? --> every other day, but not the first
Voyeur: Unlimited use --> one-shot
Item cop: Crazy algebraic equation, 'how many items' --> unlimited single targets, 'do they have items'
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:56 am

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Vote Count 9.5 - As of post 676

MacDougall (1) - diddin
TheFool (1) - MacDougall

Not Voting (4) - WrathChild, Ghostlin, TheFool, sword_of_omens

The Current deadline is April 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 am EDT. Countdown is (expired on 2012-04-03 10:00:00).

With 6 active votes - 4 are required to lynch.

Activity Check - Ghostlin as picked up his prod. If he has not responded in thread by 11:00am EDT I will being looking for a replacment.

diddn is V/LA until March 31st.

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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:31 am

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Everyone please post your full name:

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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:38 am

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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:42 am

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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:43 am

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PS I'm 100% certain Diddin is town. He claimed an investigative role Day 2 and as scum that would be an enormous risk especially after they bussed Funky.
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:50 am

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Agreed, he softclaimed Day 2 and hardclaimed Day 3, both times to try to prevent the lynch of a townie.
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:26 am

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What was the name of the Voyeur item?
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:58 am

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Alexander, iirc
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:34 am

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Starting Items:

1. Funkybike: Fenrir Magicite
2. Kise: Magitek Armor
3. Nexus: None ?
4. Red: Thief Glove
5. Parama: None ?
6. Zeek: Elixir Relic
7. Feysal/KK: Alexander Magicite
8. Iec: Queens Guard
9. Pidgey: ???
10. TS: Bahamut Magicite
11. TE: None
12. Kat/Matias: None
13. Theam: None
14. SRG/Spyrex: Carbuncle Magicite
15. WC: Magitek Armor
16. MD: Magitek Armor
17. Mist/Ghostlin: None?
18. theFool: None ?
19. Diddin: Some Sort of Furs
20. Sword of Omens: None ?

Night 1 actions:

-Pidgey Vigs Nexus - Confirmed
-TS kills Kise - Confirmed (Possibly using Strong Man kill - Bahamut)
-Diddin name cops Red - Claimed
-Feysal Voyeurs Kise - Confirmed
-Zeek protects Unknown - ???
-Iec Jails Timeater - Confirmed
-Red fails to target

-Unknown Items Effects/Targets: Carbuncle (SRG), Fenrir (TS)

Can any one else compile the other night actions? The archive is making me crazy.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:10 am

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Looking for a replacement for Ghostlin now.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:41 pm

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I started out without items, TE confirmed that Mist did as well, my steal confirms SoO is currently itemless, and he also claimed VT.

TS had Kise's Magitek And Iec's Queen's Guard. If we assume he did all the killings up to his death, Parama was probably VT. Pidgey didn't claim getting anything from Nexus (I forget if he explicitly claimed getting nothing), so probably VT there as well.

So for the original setup, we've got:

Confirmed Town:
Item Cop
Voyeur
Doctor
Modified Jailkeeper
Vig
1 Neighbor
3 Vanillas
2 Probably Vanillas

Unconfirmed:
Name Cop
2 Neighbors
3 Vanillas

Confirmed Scum:
Item Thief/Bulletproof?
Strongman
"Carbunkle"

Can any one else compile the other night actions?

Doc Protects
Zeek:
N1 Pidgey
N2 Pidgey
Fool:
N3 Diddin
N4 ---
N5 Timeater
N6 ---
N7 Diddin
N8 ---
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:55 pm

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Did some digging, found Iec's claim.

Jailkeeper:
Iec:
N1 Timeater
N2 Katsuki
N3 Pidgey
N4 ???
TS:
N5 ???
Mist:
N6 couldn't use
N7 didn't use
N8 diddin
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:04 pm

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Voyeur:
Feysal/KK:
N1 Kise was mafia killed
N2 Iec was not targetted
N3 Mist was item copped
MacD:
N4 MacD was not targetted
(item dissapeared)

Name Cop
diddin:
N1- innocent on redFF
N2- innocent on Zeek
N3- Tried to investigate SoO, no result
N4- Tried to investigate amateur, no result
N5- guilty on TS
N6- innocent on Wrath
N7- innocent on Mist
N8- tried to investigate McD, no result

Don't have the time to brave going through every Timeater post for Item Cop results right now.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:57 am

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kunkstar7 replaces Ghostlin! Greet him warmly!
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:22 am

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welcome Kunkstar!!

Also did the search for the item cop:
using TE's wording on his claims

Item Cop:


RedFF

N1. No Action

Timeater:

N2. Diddin (has at least 1 item/mag)
N3. Mist (No items/relics)
N4. Spyrex (has at least 1 mag/relic)
N5. The Fool (has at least 1 item/relic)
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:28 am

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also, Kunk...
link to archived pages is on page 23
and it's very user friendly...
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:41 am

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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:44 am

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In post 680, WrathChild wrote:PS I'm 100% certain Diddin is town. He claimed an investigative role Day 2 and as scum that would be an enormous risk especially after they bussed Funky.


Scum namecop claims to be a town namecop... How is that an enormous risk? The fact that you find this reason to consider him 100% confirmed town is bizarre in the extreme.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:47 am

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And hi Kunk! Thanks for replacing in so late.
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:00 pm

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So:
Vote: MacDougall.


(Being honest here, my reads are coming from mostly the pages in this current thread after the site recovered.)

Simply put, McD's bouncing from TF to diddin and subsequent diddin attack don't sit well with me.
From the claims that I see and corroborated with my own actions, the diddin scenario makes sense. It was brought up that he claimed early on Day 2 and Day 3, which lines up with the his no results, and fits with why he wasn't killed, because scum had him pinned with a roleblock. TF claims to have protected the previous night, and I know I JK'ed diddin last night. so it lines up with the no kills. This puts diddin and TheFool out of options for lynch today.

Of the other two, SoO doesn't really ring one way or another, I'm more confident in my McD read. Wrath at the moment is leaning town because with the way the archive and stuff is kind of chaotic making it easy for fakeclaimed actions to slip through, taking the time to put together the claims and item possession is a big push against that. It shows town initiative.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:08 pm

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Oh wow revise that whole last part about Wrath. Turns out TheFool is the awesome guy there. Townpoints++, for the 'town initiative' reason.
Egh, gotta look at Wrath over again, doubt it'll change much, probably on par with SoO.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:43 pm

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So you don't think it'd be beneficial for a scum player to go through the archive and post the claims and actions? Especially considering all the night actions of any relevance should be memorized by us by now anyway, I think that is wifom.

Also SoO has done his share of that too, yet you give the town read to WC and TheFool but ignore his contributions...
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:36 am

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In post 693, MacDougall wrote:
In post 680, WrathChild wrote:PS I'm 100% certain Diddin is town. He claimed an investigative role Day 2 and as scum that would be an enormous risk especially after they bussed Funky.


Scum namecop claims to be a town namecop... How is that an enormous risk? The fact that you find this reason to consider him 100% confirmed town is bizarre in the extreme.

How do explain the fact that a fake guilty would have already won the game for Diddin?
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:47 am

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The archive is making my eyes bleed and is sucking up too much time.
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