NY 150: Mob Money Mafia GAME OVER

[kondi2424]

So was it obvious before I pointed it out?

[kondi2424]

Also,

@Mod: Replacing out due to problems with a player.

[mcqueen]

Also,

@Mod: Replacing out due to problems with a player.

I love how you replace out, just because I refuse to back off of something I disagree with.

(Maybe this is the kind of stupidity that makes me dislike certain players.)

[kondi2424]

It's not you, mcqueen.

[mcqueen]

[Non_Game_Related]

It's not you, mcqueen.

Well, thanks? But what's above is true -

(Maybe this is the kind of stupidity that makes me dislike certain players.)

[/Non_Game_Related]

[Bunnylover]

@Bunnylover - I'd like to have a list of your reads.

At the moment my mind is set on Pine, Oversoul, and Sly.
OverSoul - I'm a little shakey on OverSoul. His vote on BBM was lackluster, but later made sense with his unvote when he stated that he didn't remember that BB wasn't in the previous thread. I just can't grasp how much of that is true and what not.
Pine - He's trying to do everything in his power to get me lynched based on meta. Wouldn't be so bad, but his whole case is based on meta which I just can't believe town would risk. But this may just be OMGUS, trying to figure out exactly what it is.
Sly - Sly and the whole Nacho thing is just weird. No one can call Nacho softclaiming, but he is strong-ho about it.

[Nachomamma8]

I'd hardly call myself "coasting" when I have more posts than half the players.

You can post every day and still coast. Coasting is dependent on how much content you're posting.

Pine literally had zero posts yesterday. I had not seen Pine post in this game. At all. Mind explaining to me why he was "almost certainly town"? There's no possible way you should expect me to get a townread on someone off of zero posts.

Pine was protown before the crash. He's town.

You summarize what I do but in now way explain how it's scummy. It just says "If you don't think he's scum, you're retarded." I don't even understand the bolded part, like what. Due to the responses I got and the different feel I got, Chkflip is probably town so I didn't pursue that. Why is me not pursuing a townread and voting someone who is scummy, scummy? Hell you were even voting Pizza yesterday. There is no reasoning here, it's just explaining what I did yesterday and twisting it to seem scummy.

You set up a vote, never pursued it, backed down to go after an easier target. That is scummy, and it shouldn't need explaining as to why it's scummy.

I don't even know what you're talking about here. Who pushed to lynch the cop? Pine? Why would I know this.

mmm, mixed up Pine and mcqueen from yesterday.

VOTE: Nacho

Entered game as a replacement. Immediately soft claimed as being a mason with Mastin. Had a lengthy discussion with me about how masons can't be scum in a normal game. After thread disappeared, retracted soft claim.

you are wrong.
you are completely fucking wrong.

Nacho is pretty obviously Town. Back in your hole, BBscum.

Man solid reasoning. Can't argue with that. Definitely solidified by him disappearing after some of us voted him.

hahaha.

[projectmatt]

>make huge catch up post

>close tab by accident

..let me just .. sum this up .. quickly

Pine,
how confident are you that Bunnylover is scum, and what do you plan to do if Bunny is town?

Twistedspoon,
your jumping on BBmolla's wagon was insanely, insanely awkward but I'll disregard that given you towntold a bit before.

Mcqueen, you're obvious town. Hi.

The case/attempted lynch on Pine makes 0 sense
.

Hey mcqueen Pine townslipped fuck off

I must say, I'm not used to you being this confident, although I agree Pine is town.

huh

that was a bland catch up post

i'll just say this again

pine, mcqueen, nacho and chkflip are all town

I feel like Kline is flying under the radar significantly and he could easily be scum but I'll deal with that later

in fact i'll just decide who i want to vote either but someone should really look into kline

[chkflip]

UNVOTE: Pine
VOTE: BBmolla

[SlySly]

you are wrong.
you are completely fucking wrong.

No, backtracker, I'm not.

[SlySly]

projectmatt, who's kline?

[mcqueen]

Mcqueen, you're obvious town. Hi.

Hi.

projectmatt, who's kline?

I think he meant Kise.

[Nachomamma8]

you are wrong.
you are completely fucking wrong.

No, backtracker, I'm not.

okay, originally, i said that mastin was confirmed town.
as i said at the time, it was just to signify the strength of the read, i did not have role-related info confirming mastin was town.
you brought up how there were no roles that would mean we were confirmed to each other at the start.
i brought up masons.
you said masons weren't confirmed.
i explained how in current site meta they were.
later, you brought up how mastin and i claimed co-masons and if we claimed differently, we were liars.
i said we never claimed masons.
and here we are.

[projectmatt]

projectmatt, who's kline?

Kline, Kise. Same difference. n_n

Mcqueen, you're obvious town. Hi.

Hi.

Hi! So why are you voting Pine?

[Pine]

@Projectmatt: I was ~80% (<--Made up number) certain that BL was scum based simply on the "2 Neighbors = 1 Town/1 scum" paradigm right from receiving my role PM. Then he tried to buddy up to me in the pregame, treating me as if he already knew I was Town when every indication would have been, were he Town, that I were scum. Then he scummed up the pre-crash. I'm absolutely convinced that he's scum, and absolutely nothing he's said has made me question that conviction. I have no plans for him flipping Town. I suppose I'd cross that bridge when I get there, and probably get lynched for my trouble. Wouldn't blame you much for doing it, either, given my insistence on pushing the setup spec angle on BL. Like I said, not worried about it.

PE: Yeah, Nacho, I'm pretty sure you're talking to a wall there. Sly's the only one who buys his bullshit, and I don't think he can be logicked out of this. He's pot-committed.

PE2: McQueen is voting me out of petulance at being called out for being a 9-year-old. Ironically, this tantrum merely reinforces that assessment, rather than doing anything to discourage it. You're pretty obvTown too, though. Looks like we've got the seeds of a banging Town coalition here.

[SlySly]

okay, originally, i said that mastin was confirmed town.
as i said at the time, it was just to signify the strength of the read, i did not have role-related info confirming mastin was town.
you brought up how there were no roles that would mean we were confirmed to each other at the start.
i brought up masons.
you said masons weren't confirmed.
i explained how in current site meta they were.
later, you brought up how mastin and i claimed co-masons and if we claimed differently, we were liars.
i said we never claimed masons.
and here we are.

"Confirmed" is a word that pings my softclaim-dar. You bringing up masons after using the word "confirmed" was a softclaim. You explaining how masons are confirmed town in normal games, further validated that you were softclaiming.

I don't care how many times you've backtrack on it since.

You didn't say strength of read at the time, that came much later.

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See fuckers, I'm not crazy.

[mcqueen]

projectmatt, who's kline?

Kline, Kise. Same difference. n_n

Mcqueen, you're obvious town. Hi.

Hi.

Hi! So why are you voting Pine?

He should have easily known that mafia wouldn't be targeting him Night 1, with a claimed cop out there. That's what disproved his argument, against my theory, that Pine exposed Bunnylover, tried to get him mislynched, so when Bunnylover flipped town, he could say, "Well, I guess we have a town-town neighbor group, after all." I did not like his very flawed argument, so I called him out on the flaws, and voted him. He needs to die.

[mcqueen]

PE2: McQueen is voting me out of petulance at being called out for being a 9-year-old. Ironically, this tantrum merely reinforces that assessment, rather than doing anything to discourage it. You're pretty obvTown too, though. Looks like we've got the seeds of a banging Town coalition here.

I'm not having a tantrum, and I'm not voting you because you called me a 9-year-old. I'm voting you because you refuse to see the flaws in your argument, and insist on, saying I voted you because you called me a 9-year-old, will distance you from your flaws, and my vote. Well, it won't.

Pine needs death. SlySly isn't scum, he's just a bullshitting townie.

[BBmolla]

BL seems townier than Pine imo. I don't understand why people think Pine is town because "BL is scum" when BL seems town to me.

[Pine]

@390: "Confirmed" is bandied about a lot more than it is actually true. It's simply colloquial for "I'm positive of this person". If that's really the entire foundation of your case, upon which the rest of it completely falls apart, then you're really showing how little you pay attention.

@391: Actually, I hadn't read the new pages of D1 then, and didn't know that Damon had claimed. Hell, I still haven't read them. I'm using a modified replacement strategy. It's not like you ever learn much by reading what came before, and this strategy has never failed me. True story.

[mcqueen]

BL seems townier than Pine imo. I don't understand why people think Pine is town because "BL is scum" when BL seems town to me.

If BBmolla has seemed scum for a majority of the game, well, this is his town moment. We'll just see how long it lasts.

[projectmatt]

Pine -

I forgot to ask, is it possible to paraphrase or quote things from the QT or is that against the guidelines? I can't find anything regarding it in the game rules. I think it would be a gigantic help if you could paraphrase some of the things Bunny said, but yeah

[Twistedspoon]

Twistedspoon,
your jumping on BBmolla's wagon was insanely, insanely awkward but I'll disregard that given you towntold a bit before.

I know it looked odd, but Bb lurked hard and I've already said why else I found him scum

I don't care how it looks when I'm adamant someone is mafiosi. It was hardly a wagon with only nacho on anyways.

[Pine]

There's almost nothing in our QT. Pregame started, I immediately expressed suspicion, BL immediately tried to dismiss suspicion and buddy up to me. Yeah, that went nowhere.

[Oversoul]

Kondi did you replace out because of me? I'm really sorry if you weren't having fun but that wasn't even that much pressure. I just think you are scum. Although I am very tempting to say that slot is town now.