Starky-boy wrote:@Korlash, what are those other points that are making her claim bogus?
Well my friend, I'm glad you asked.
In post 407, Amrun wrote:
I'm a power role and I'm not even going to tell you which one except you would be pretty dumb to lynch it.
In post 423, Amrun wrote:
If I get threatened with a hammer, I'll claim my full role, but not before. It's too premature, yet.
In post 426, Amrun wrote:Chill, chill, I was afk.
I'm a cop.
Not really surprising, giving the flavor - and that counterclaim stuff is bs, because I am almost certainly not the only one.
Interestingly, though, my role pm never mentions the word "cop." I seem to have no role name at all. It describes the abilities of a cop pretty dead on, though.
It doesn't say, so I'm assuming sanity not guaranteed.
In post 471, Amrun wrote:
If scum had a roleblocker, they would almost definitely have roleblocked me last night. They know that I am a cop because they know I'm not scum, and the likelihood of me fakeclaiming as town is very low. So they know that I have the potential to fuck them over (as both guilties and innocents are very bad for scum).
It's not 100% sure they don't have a roleblocker, because there are other interfering abilities (redirect, for example), and other possibilities of things that interfered with their roleblocker. They also COULD have blocked RainbowDash or someone else, but I think that would be dumb. But maybe the scum are dumb. idk.
Still, despite outside chances of uncommon roles/weird role interaction/super dumb scum, it is unlikely that there's a roleblocker on scum side. Me turning up with no result today could easily have led to my lynch, which is a possibility that would be very hard to pass up for scum.
In post 473, Amrun wrote:Voided responded. Cop.
He also pointed out that I missed it in the original PM. It was in the quote name bit and I missed it completely. Oh well.
In post 506, Amrun wrote:I was trying to entice scum into killing me yesterday, but it was unlikely considering I'm still a potential mislynch.
Amrun wrote:Korlash, I only tried to do it after I got to L-1. It's why I didn't full claim immediately (and said the stuff about town would be so dumb to lynch met etc) and why I said I would be killed overnight, etc. It was unlikely to ever happen, but I tried.
The 407 and 426 stuff are contradictory. "You would be pretty dumb to lynch me" vs. "I'm almost certainly not the only one", Why would we be 'dumb' to lynch a role we have multiple of? And I mean specifically, Why would we be dumb for lynching it and not for simply lynching a power role if we have multiples of her role? In a hypothetical sense, if we have four cops and one doc, lynching the doc would be dumb... Lynching the cop would simply be, unfortunate.
The part about 'having no name' seems like a stall. it wasn't until after we had a town flip that she figured it out (aka knew the game had simple role names). She made reference to this in post 477 which is quite possibly because she had specifically looked for it to refine her claim. I looked at my own role PM, and there is no way I missed my role name. No fucking way, since we are both replacements I cannot believe her's is any differently structured than mine is.
The part about trying to get nightkilled is also bullshit. She was at L-1 before she even suggested we would be idiots for lynching her, so saying it was "after" that is ridiculous. Plus, in post 423 she refuses to full claim until threatened with a hammer. Why? if she wanted to be nightkilled, she should have full claimed immediately thus ensuring the scum wanted to kill her. Instead, she stalls during deadline while at L-1 arguing over a hammer threat. Ridiculous.
And her 471 looks rehearsed. She goes out of her way of explaining what should be a hole in her claim without technically being asked. (She first mentioned it herself in post 465) This is simply my opinion, so feel free to ignore or disagree with it, but it's the type of move I would make while fakeclaiming, making sure to patch up cracks as soon as possible with reasonable excuses while structuring it in such a way that the scum team isn't hurt by the disclosure. (i.e. the "i don't think, but it's possible, but unlikely" keeps us guessing as to if they do or don't in the event she is lynched)
Add in the game's flavor and cop is the most likely picked role to fakeclaim as scum. So all together, NOTHING about this claim adds up (other than her investigating me, who oddly enough is the main person pushing her claim as bogus suggesting this 'result' could simply be a means of appeasement towards me.) and the amount of circumstantial evidence against it keeps growing.
The claim is bogus, and has been since yesterday.
