In post 1449, redFF wrote:I'm still confused as to whether you think I'm scum or not.
I'm not entirely sure either. I'm leaning scum though.
In post 1449, redFF wrote:I'm still confused as to whether you think I'm scum or not.
In post 1451, redFF wrote:Alright because you voted me, then said I was a dead end, then said I wasn't scum, then said I was scum, sk or vig and now you're leaning scum.
You're flip-flopping around a lot over a short period of time.
In post 1027, redFF wrote:im guessing ah was a vig?
In post 1444, Kublai Khan wrote:
It's your conclusion that Antihero was a vig target that convinced me to not pursue you. It's such a mind-blowingly stupid conclusion that it could only have been formed by inside knowledge that I'm not privy to. Which means you are either a vig, a mafioso, or a SK.
In post 1423, StrangerCoug wrote:In post 1402, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1385, StrangerCoug wrote:
#140: I'm starting to see a redFF-Nero Cain connection here. Both want drmyshottyizsik policy lynched and neither are doing anything to convince anybody that he's actually scum, with Nero Cain trying to shift burden onto NihilisticNinja and redFF trying to stifle discussion.
What the hell? A PL has nothing to do with being scum. You should know that, LLD should know that. This kind of discussion makes me think ya'll are defending for the towncred.
You are not reading. "I think your reasoning for wanting to lynch drmyshottyizsik is crap" ≠ "I think drmyshottyizsik is town." The only thing I have done that could remotely be considered as me passing any sort of judgment on drmyshottyizsik yet is agree with Benmage's statement that his first sentence in the first post of his ISO is fluff. You two could be bussing him for all I know.
In post 1459, Code_X wrote:In post 1027, redFF wrote:im guessing ah was a vig?
In post 1444, Kublai Khan wrote:
It's your conclusion that Antihero was a vig target that convinced me to not pursue you. It's such a mind-blowingly stupid conclusion that it could only have been formed by inside knowledge that I'm not privy to. Which means you are either a vig, a mafioso, or a SK.
So what is it?
Red - do you think Mastin's 6 scum is correct? A slip or not?
@ Everyone voting Pine. What is the actual case against him? FWIW's I don't find him scummy. More just fed-up.
Unvotefor now.
In post 1449, redFF wrote:I'm still confused as to whether you think I'm scum or not.
He did not really address the majority of this post at all.In post 389, redFF wrote:Firestarted came into the thread very late and posts his catchup post, which is literally just a summary of the game.
Then lists a reasonless scum read on rack(of course, when everyone else is doing it, why not?)
I thought this part of his post was particularly silly
Nero Cain - Scum-read
The Shotty incident. PL'ing him. Not gonna happen.
You say you were not the one to bring up the idea that shotty should be PL'ed.
But you grabbed the baton and ran with it anyway.
When you were quizzed on it, you failed to deliver anything in the way of proof that shotty
was a VI. Yes, those who were questioning you could have looked for it themselves,
but the BoP lies with you.
redFF - Null-read
On my re-read, I found this slot to be one of the tougher reads for some reason.
As I've said before, the whole Policy Lynching thing is not my bag.
I disagree with it, but as stand alone point in ones ISO, not worthy of being called scum for.
So nero cain is a scumread for
- wanting to pl shotty
- saying he was not the one who brought it up (which is true)
- "grabbing the baton and running with it" (he never denied this)
- failing to prove howshottyis a bad player... (hint that's something he doesn't need to prove, even looking at only shotty's posts from this game)
So all that makes nero cain a scumread, K.
Now I'm a null read, even though nero seems to be a scumread purely from pushing a policy lynch, and firestarter says???As I've said before, the whole Policy Lynching thing is not my bag.
I disagree with it, but as stand alone point in ones ISO, not worthy of being called scum for.
As for his other reads, scum read on psyche, one of the bigger pushers of rack all game. You can't really have a scumread on both of them buddy.
And then town reads on LLD and NN, 2 of the more active players in the game, both seemingly widely regarded as town. He had to list some town reads so why not list the 2 easiest town reads in the game right now.NihilisticNinja- Town-read
Content, probing, analysing. All town traits thus far.Blatant buddying here.Lady Lambdadelta- Town-read
Like NN, LLD has been providing content, probing and questioning away. All Town traits.
And then a town read on KK, guess who else has a town read on KK? LLD.
With this, I don't see how you can have a town read on KK and null reads on the majority of the playerlist. Reasons for the town read on kk that aren't "I'm buddying up to LLD" please.Kublai Khan- Town-read
Most of what KK has written so far I agree with, except maybe the stance on scooby.
He still doesn't actually justify the rack vote (happened to be a scumread is not justification). He say's psyche is bussing with the 3rd vote of day 1, and doesn't actually provide any reasoning for nero being a scumread except saying that our approaches towards a policy lynch were different with no evidence. Go read my first post on him again and see how much of it he actually addressed. The answer is very little. This is dodging, KK voted me for much less, what's the difference KK?RedFF - First of all, the summary is for me. It may help others in the future, but what I always do, WHAT I ALWAYS DO, is post my thoughts in-game.
Regarding my rack vote, momentum was gathering and he just happened to be a scum read of mine.
(I assume you have by now, seen my subsequent post after I gave out my reads, that my lists were in no particular order?)
At the time I posted my reads, Psyche had about 3 posts? None with any real content except a rack vote.
rack had been gathering momentum so scum coming into the game and slapping a vote onto a player that was on the way to being
bandwagoned looked opportunistic. iirc correctly I was read up to #229.
At that time Psyche WAS NOT one of the bigger pushers of rack - this is lies.
Regarding Nero & you, red, on the PL issues... It's more a gut feeling I have.
You've been quite brazen about wanting a shotty PL, whereas Nero got very defensive about it.
So, Nero remains a scum-read, you a null-read.
I'm on Junpei. I could also go onto Pine if needed, though I prefer Junpei over Pine. If I could GET a KK wagon, I'd be oh so happy to join it, but there's just not enough support for it, yet. Similar trend for TML and probably Macros's slot.I implore the solidly town players here like LLD/mastin/SC/code_x/hez(?) to consolidate on a decent wagon.
In post 1465, The Mini-Librarian wrote:@KK: So you think redff is scum, but you don't want to vote him because you think he's going to get nk'ed? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Tell me how that is a town move please.