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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 8:53 am

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In post 420, animorpherv1 wrote:Everyone then gets 24 hours to vote on which candidate they would like to enter.


This says I have to vote for a candidate.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 9:00 am

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We can fix that.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 9:07 am

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In post 425, Xalxe wrote:
In post 420, animorpherv1 wrote:Everyone then gets 24 hours to vote on which candidate they would like to enter.


This says I have to vote for a candidate.


Not really actually. It simply reads that if you were to vote for a candidate, you have a 24 hour window in which to do so. At least, that's my interpretation.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 9:08 am

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But there's no provision in the proposal that somebody wouldn't enter the game. It just has tiebreaker rules. You could have a 1-1 tie and somebody would still enter.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 11:19 am

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Not to be harsh, but I don't see me wanting anyone to enter EVER. There was plenty of opportunity to enter this game. And to be frank, people quitting just makes one less competitor for me to go up against.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 11:23 am

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I still know someone who missed it.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 11:26 am

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The actual proposal itself right now seems
far
too vague. For a start, it needs to say "any potential candidate
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 3:46 pm

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Should a player be removed from the game for any reason, any person with an unbanned Mafiascum.net account may become a candidate to replace the removed player by posting a request to that effect in the thread. After 24 hours have passed, each player shall then be given 24 hours during which they may vote for the admittance of up to one of these candidates. If at the end of the voting one of these candidates has the support of a simple majority of players, that candidate shall become a player.


Thus, no ties, and abstaining counts as voting against the admittance of any candidate. The "simple majority" criterion may, of course, be changed to a supermajority if so desired.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 3:49 pm

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I like it, and it's better than what I was going to propose.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 3:50 pm

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I'd like to add a "no candidate" submission in the list of people, if at all possible.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 3:57 pm

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In post 434, animorpherv1 wrote:I'd like to add a "no candidate" submission in the list of people, if at all possible.


A change without effect, but:

Should a player be removed from the game for any reason, any person with an unbanned Mafiascum.net account may become a candidate to replace the removed player by posting a request to that effect in the thread. After 24 hours have passed, each player shall then be given 24 hours during which they may vote for the admittance of one of these candidates or against the admittance of any candidate. If at the end of the voting one of these candidates has the support of a simple majority of players, that candidate shall become a player.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 3:58 pm

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Feels better to me.

Thanks.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 4:03 pm

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No problem.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 5:07 pm

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In post 432, Packbat wrote:
Should a player be removed from the game for any reason, any person with an unbanned Mafiascum.net account may become a candidate to replace the removed player by posting a request to that effect in the thread. After 24 hours have passed, each player shall then be given 24 hours during which they may vote for the admittance of up to one of these candidates. If at the end of the voting one of these candidates has the support of a simple majority of players, that candidate shall become a player.


Thus, no ties, and abstaining counts as voting against the admittance of any candidate. The "simple majority" criterion may, of course, be changed to a supermajority if so desired.

That works much better. :D
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 5:18 pm

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Ooh, just saw a problem - fixing:

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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 5:39 pm

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I agree with Chevre. If the point of this game is to win, then this rule can make winning impossible. Do we really need an endless cycle of players rotating in and out?
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 5:49 pm

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I will vote against any rule that allows for adding more players...
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 5:50 pm

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It doesn't make winning impossible
right now
, because the current win condition is to amass a certain number of points. But if we potentially drown ourselves in point-debt, a new player has an advantage. On the other hand, if a new player joins when we are quite far into the game, they are at a supreme disadvantage.

If animorpherv1 names the one player he wants to allow in, I'd be more than happy to pass some legislation letting just them in, but I just don't want people capitalizing all throughout the game.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 5:51 pm

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/agrees with Chevre
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 2:45 am

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I don't object to the rule being in place. Odds are very high that I'll vote against anybody joining, but I can see exceptions.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 3:41 am

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In all honesty, I'm not enthusiastic for the rule either - if mine was the deciding vote, I'd probably make it pass, though.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 7:40 am

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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 8:16 am

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I'll most definitely approve him entering. :)
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2012 5:22 pm

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Deadline to put the proposal to vote: (expired on 2012-05-12 19:59:00).
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sat May 12, 2012 7:45 am

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It's up to vote.

(Psst, chances are, if you dont like a player wanting to enter, everyone else likely won't either)

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