Newbie 1233: Frogs & Toads Mafia (Town Win!)

[Axxle]

Super simple impressions, don't want to spend a lot of time on these:
Zenax: somewhat inactive. when he did say things it seemed decently relevant though.
Axxle: what can I say? Very cool dude.
Elmo TeH AzN: new so I don't really know. His predecessor asher1611 seemed like the kind of person who waited to see before jumping in. w/e
Cirno: hasn't posted. Predecessor Larry David acted strangely, although not sure if it's just Larry's personality or tactics coming through. His avatar actually really through me off since it reminded me of one of my old professors (I'm guessing it's actually some famous actor?)
LluD: Again no read. hasn't really posted, which is usually bad.
Xephoria: Seems to be sincerely a new player to this game, meaning not only is he unfamiliar with the particulars, this also might not be a game he can pick up quickly (sorry for the harshness). It might be a ploy to not reveal information though.
Chrimi: Annoyingly quiet for the majority of the game so far. In recent days he's stepped it up though. Maybe the vacation was all he needed. I'm reluctant to judge him on what happened previous to that, but we'll see in the upcoming days.
Voidedmafia: very vocal. I like that. It's for the good of the town. even if he gets lynched later, which I fully expect him to be (not necessarily today, in fact not probably today), when he turns out to be townsfolk we can use the knowledge he's given us to capture whatever remaining mafia there is. and if he turns out to be mafia, then yay!
Twistedspoon: way, way, way, way too quiet for our senior member. completely reactionary and has taken no initiative. I am very cautious about this person.

well. thats what i have for now. well i mean i have more but i don't want to think to hard at the moment. i'm probably forgetting a lot, and i'm sorry if i sound too accusatory to certain persons. have a nice day.

[Voidedmafia]

First off: That ribbit? Don't ever do that again. Ever.

secondly, I find myself in huge agreement with those reads. You can consider yourself town until further notice. Just don't ribbit again. You're not Suwako.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

VOTE: Llud

[Voidedmafia]

Why, Elmo?

[Chrimi]

Chrimi: Annoyingly quiet for the majority of the game so far. In recent days he's stepped it up though. Maybe the vacation was all he needed. I'm reluctant to judge him on what happened previous to that, but we'll see in the upcoming days.

I was quiet

because

I was on vacation.

Also, the only person with a higher post count than me is VM, so at least I'm posting.

[PeregrineV]

Cirno replaces Larry David

This never happened, so it never happened.

[PeregrineV]

Bonooru replaces LluD
nurC replaces Zenax
kondi2424 replaces Larry David

[Axxle]

First off: That ribbit? Don't ever do that again. Ever.

secondly, I find myself in huge agreement with those reads. You can consider yourself town until further notice. Just don't ribbit again. You're not Suwako.

Had to look her up, not familiar with Touhou. I just wanted to make a nod to the theme that the mod set out. Admittedly I got the idea from anime where some characters kind of throw in some weird word at the end of their sentences.

Chrimi: Annoyingly quiet for the majority of the game so far. In recent days he's stepped it up though. Maybe the vacation was all he needed. I'm reluctant to judge him on what happened previous to that, but we'll see in the upcoming days.

I was quiet

because

I was on vacation.

Also, the only person with a higher post count than me is VM, so at least I'm posting.

I was talking about pre-vacation. You talked a lot but said very little. Since you've come back you seem fine though.

Q1) Do you have any experience with mafia games ( This site or others)
Q2) What time zone are you in?
Q3) How often can we expect a post from you?
Q4) What role do you like to play the most?
Q5) How do you guys feel about lurkers or liars?

Might as well answer these:
1) this is my first online game. I haven't played mafia in years, although I have played Resistance which is similar and Bang! which is less similar.
2) PDT so GMT -8 (UTC -7?)
3) Every day I'll probably be posting multiple times. My job is at the computer all day, I have time between program compiles.
4) N/A
5) Lurkers annoy me. Dodging questions is the best sign of being mafia. Liars are the best. In fact, this statement is a lie.

[nurC]

/confirm
gonna read the thread now

[nurC]

Mash-up of things that stood out:

@Zyx:

I don't like this post:

And, speaking of lurkers, of all the players who have posted, Llud has posted the least. He only gave us the absolute minimum necessary for confirmation, even though the rest of the confirmed players have been chatting. Come on, Llud, the game has started. Say something.

I have a gut scum read on this post, these types of halfhearted pressure votes don't seem genuine.

@Xephoria:

This is a weird post:

I don't know what to post. At all. @Zenax I don't understand why I'm being voted.

In fact, all your posts are weird and you haven't had a read or vote all game, that makes no sense.

However, from Xeph's following posts, I don't see much scum intentions behind it, and I'm going to UNVOTE: Xeph.

Also, Xeph appears to be a very opportunistic target for a D1 mislynch (like a textbook target...) and I don't like how easily he was put at L-1. From my PoV, it's likely that one of Chrimi, Twisted or Voided are scum, and if I had to bet right now I'd say it was between Twisted and Voided.

The sequence of 143-150, and other empty posts from Chrimi makes me lean town on him for some reason, I just don't see why scum would post like that.

Chrimi at L-1? Again, it seems like an opportunistic target, and again Twisted and Voided are on him? Definitely one scum in those two.

Overall:

One of

Twisted

and

Voided

are scum.
Potentially with

Axxle

(Zys), I could definitely see Axxle-Twisted team (from the "cautious" comment of Axxle in post 250). Also,

Elmo

could potentially be scum as well, but this is gut and mainly null...
Everyone else is null and hasn't made much of an impact on me (granted, they are all more or less absent).

It's a toss up, but I'm going to VOTE: TwistedSpoon

@Elmo:

You were already on Llud, whats the point of this:

VOTE: Llud

[nurC]

Also, so I'll introduce myself:
I'm nurc and this is my 6th game on MS [I've now completed a total of 3 games (Newbie 978 and 1198 as townie, as well as 997 as scum, if you are curious, an additional 2 games are on-going)].

[Twistedspoon]

sorry, I meant to post earlier but I was having an hour long chat with someone on omegle about Paul McCartney. Crazy world eh? =s

Yeah, I'm happy to put crimi in the town roster for now seeing as his activity has picked up and his thoughts seem more or less coherent. His name still means Criminal in italian though and that keeps me on my toes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I reaaaly want to hear from Cirno. She's probably making a rougelike or something knowing her ^^
I'd hate for her having to rep out though before I could say Hi u_u
(p-edit. Oh dear. there goes the amazing reunion)

One of Twisted and Voided are scum.

isn't that basically what crimi said?

VM's ISO reads town...
Twisted is more of a... Nullish town?
Although, if one is scum, it wouldn't be far fetched to think the other one is.

VM's ISO reads town...Twisted is more of a... Nullish town?Although, if one is scum, it wouldn't be far fetched to think the other one is.

The sequence of 143-150, and other empty posts from Chrimi makes me lean town on him for some reason, I just don't see why scum would post like that.

too scummy-to-be-scum is an unreliable tell (especially in a newbie game) but I think you may have got the right impression here. I considered it too but felt crimi needed pressure to stop empty posting (and it worked for the most part I like to think)

3) Every day I'll probably be posting multiple times. My job is at the computer all day, I have time between program compiles.

pssh. Use a first-generation language

[Voidedmafia]

Haven't we played together, Nurc?

Also, prior to Axxle replacing, no one had posted anything worth something for the past 3 pages or so, Xephoria included. It's nice to see that activity may finally pick up now, but my votes at this point were to try and spur some people into actually participating, or at least those who had already talked a little more than others. Chrimi, Elmo, and I could talk ourselves in circles, but if we're all town then that doesn't do us one lick of good.

Simply put: Show me activity and I'll show you an unvote.

P-EDIT: Twisted, Elmo seemed to imply that if one of us is scum, the other is too, not that one or the other is scum

[Twistedspoon]

ah, my mistake

[Axxle]

What does null mean in the context of mafia? just unaligned?

[kondi2424]

Hi Elmo, Chrimi, Voided, and TS

For the Newbies: I'm qualified for SE status, so just consider me another SE.

Reading up, will post soon.

[nurC]

isn't that basically what crimi said?

VM's ISO reads town...
Twisted is more of a... Nullish town?
Although, if one is scum, it wouldn't be far fetched to think the other one is.

That's not how I read that comment, more like:
"voided is town, twisted is town, but I guess either one could be fooling me..."
or like voided said, that both are scum.

Haven't we played together, Nurc?

Kinda, I was already dead when you replaced in (Newbie 1198).

PEdit:

What does null mean in the context of mafia? just unaligned?

I meant not enough info to say one way or the other, so yea pretty much unaligned.

For the Newbies: I'm qualified for SE status, so just consider me another SE.

For the record, I'm also SE worthy, in case that wasn't clear.

[Axxle]

One of

Twisted

and

Voided

are scum.

Agree with this, but I would think it's

Twisted

rather than

Voided

.

Potentially with

Axxle

(Zys), I could definitely see Axxle-Twisted team (from the "cautious" comment of Axxle in post 250).

While I obviously don't agree with this, I can see how you can think so, although being at each other's throats isn't very productive for mafia this early, (from what little I know about the game and my gaming instincts at least).

I'm concerned that

Twistedspoon

doesn't think it necessary to respond to either my nor your accusations. VOTE: TwistedSpoon Give us more information for to be pleasing.

[kondi2424]

Haven't actually started my read yet, but

FOS Axxle

for the post above. Out of context, it feels sheepy and weird.

Oh, and UNVOTE: in case I'm voting.

[nurC]

although being at each other's throats isn't very productive for mafia this early

You saying

I am very cautious about this person.

and leaving it at that (no vote, no other comments really), isn't "being at each other's throats". In fact, this kind of "I can't read this person" or "he's a little bit scummy but lets look at other people" is the interactions I'd expect between scum.

[kondi2424]

Anyways, Glad to meet you all. Most of you I won't be familiar playing with (with the exception of VM from some horrible game in which I distinctly remember him lynching me D1. Let's hope that doesn't happen again.)

LIES! LIES AND DECEIT, I TELL YOU!

I don't even remember what game you're talking about, anyways...

the one where you and Rayfrost were scum and got me lynched d1 as cop before I could even claim >_>

my only time ever as cop and I didn't even get to use my role u_u

(what other game could it be? If you can't remember that game then there are no others we've played in together)

OMG I READ THIS

Carry on.

[Axxle]

Haven't actually started my read yet, but

FOS Axxle

for the post above. Out of context, it feels sheepy and weird.

Oh, and UNVOTE: in case I'm voting.

*Waiting patiently for you to read the context*

Is there a place with Mafia terms defined? I'm also unfamiliar with what FOS means.

although being at each other's throats isn't very productive for mafia this early

You saying

I am very cautious about this person.

and leaving it at that (no vote, no other comments really), isn't "being at each other's throats". In fact, this kind of "I can't read this person" or "he's a little bit scummy but lets look at other people" is the interactions I'd expect between scum.

Sorry for the hyperbole, but what I meant from "I am very cautious about this person" didn't mean "I can't read this person" at all. What I meant was "We really should start investigating this person because I'm getting red flags". I'm not familiar with the lingo of these forums so if that's what "cautious" means then sorry. I was also reluctant to come into the game firing votes right out the gate for fear of looking too aggressive. As for "no other comments really" I only just started last night after a night of drinking, so I can't be expected to be that verbose.

[Axxle]

Haven't actually started my read yet, but

FOS Axxle

for the post above. Out of context, it feels sheepy and weird.

Oh, and UNVOTE: in case I'm voting.

*Waiting patiently for you to read the context*

Is there a place with Mafia terms defined? I'm also unfamiliar with what FOS means.

Oh, wait, forgot there's a wiki. Carry on.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Unvote

Too many replacements

[Twistedspoon]

I'm concerned that Twistedspoon doesn't think it necessary to respond to either my nor your accusations. VOTE: TwistedSpoon Give us more information for to be pleasing.

well what do you want me to tell you amigo? =s

Your reads seem fair enough. I have a few issues with it perhaps (such as how I'm more red-flag worthy than xeph) but nothing major really

I want to hear from Bonooru myself