Newbie 1233: Frogs & Toads Mafia (Town Win!)

[Twistedspoon]

And if there is one, I want to hear your alternative.

alternative? We strongly look at opportunistic elmo whilst not rushing into a quicklynch that we'll regret later this time

Anyways, TS & VM conf town.

as mush as I want to like this phrase do you know the meaning of confirmed?

Well, you've got me in that it's nothing I'd sing praises about (really, it's rather mediorce), but the point is that it works enough that I could accept it to push a vote. I wish it was BETTER, but it works.

the things I I don't see how it even works. I'd like

Someone

to explain this. Otherwise I cannot respond to the votes on me very well.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Unvote

[Voidedmafia]

...Okay, NOW I'm clueless.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Wow Elmo. Talk about flashwagoning. The first time you surface an opinion (a poor, undeveloped one at that) is when I'm just in the perfect position for wagoning to the death. Opportunistic much?
VOTE: Elmo
Furthermore I have no clue what your premises are in #283. Nothing you have said there is inductively forceful at all.... Not even deductively valid tbh.
Rephrase it and I'll do my best to answer your points. Otherwise I'm just going to be sat here counting the votes on me with my abacus and sweet little else to do as regards to your concerns (but then again you're most likely mafiosi after that vote so I'm not sure why I'm bothering trying to justify my townieness to someone who's probably more than aware of it already).

Alright lets get this out. I didn't know I was putting you at L-1 to begin with. First off. I didn't like the post because you talk about someone else at first but put your vote on a completely different person. Then it seems you just wanted to pressure Chrimi for no apparent reason. Really call my vote opportunistic and such which I can see but I can raise you one as well and going thru your iso which is what I did at the time didn't prove much town at that moment.

...Okay, NOW I'm clueless.

Good to hear because so am I.

Spoiler: Axxle's Reads

Super simple impressions, don't want to spend a lot of time on these:
Zenax: somewhat inactive. when he did say things it seemed decently relevant though.
Axxle: what can I say? Very cool dude.
Elmo TeH AzN: new so I don't really know. His predecessor asher1611 seemed like the kind of person who waited to see before jumping in. w/e
Cirno: hasn't posted. Predecessor Larry David acted strangely, although not sure if it's just Larry's personality or tactics coming through. His avatar actually really through me off since it reminded me of one of my old professors (I'm guessing it's actually some famous actor?)
LluD: Again no read. hasn't really posted, which is usually bad.
Xephoria: Seems to be sincerely a new player to this game, meaning not only is he unfamiliar with the particulars, this also might not be a game he can pick up quickly (sorry for the harshness). It might be a ploy to not reveal information though.
Chrimi: Annoyingly quiet for the majority of the game so far. In recent days he's stepped it up though. Maybe the vacation was all he needed. I'm reluctant to judge him on what happened previous to that, but we'll see in the upcoming days.
Voidedmafia: very vocal. I like that. It's for the good of the town. even if he gets lynched later, which I fully expect him to be (not necessarily today, in fact not probably today), when he turns out to be townsfolk we can use the knowledge he's given us to capture whatever remaining mafia there is. and if he turns out to be mafia, then yay!
Twistedspoon: way, way, way, way too quiet for our senior member. completely reactionary and has taken no initiative. I am very cautious about this person.

well. thats what i have for now. well i mean i have more but i don't want to think to hard at the moment. i'm probably forgetting a lot, and i'm sorry if i sound too accusatory to certain persons. have a nice day.

Just so I understand this seems like a bit of nothingness right? I get what your doing but you really don't say much about anyone but just a general tell? For what reason? Is this going to help you catch someone if they do something different now?

Just checking but, do we have any good arguments for anyone? If so would anyone care to lay them out for me?

This is really. Why not read the thread and see if you can some up with something yourself

Oh and for those who want to know how to deal with replacements open a notepad with the playerlist

Overall:

One of Twisted and Voided are scum.

Potentially with Axxle (Zys), I could definitely see Axxle-Twisted team (from the "cautious" comment of Axxle in post 250). Also, Elmo could potentially be scum as well, but this is gut and mainly null...
Everyone else is null and hasn't made much of an impact on me (granted, they are all more or less absent).

Explain Bolded. Also I forget where my vote is a lot of the time.

Really don't like the list from Axxle
VOTE: Axxle
Still more people to read but I like this vote.

[Chrimi]

Anyways, TS & VM conf town.

as mush as I want to like this phrase do you know the meaning of confirmed?

Yes, I guess I should say confirmed town *to me*, as in you won't be expecting a vote on them from me unless they claim scum.

[Axxle]

@Elmo: I was giving my general tells just to break the ice. That was the second thing I posted after replacing. Who knows, maybe it would help.

@TS: Reading 283 again it seems like Elmo was voting for you since you seemed a little contradictory when talking about Xeph and Chrimi in the quoted posts. You kind of FOS'd Chrimi but voted Xeph on 119, your post 190 was a little aggressive, I'm not sure why he was bothered by post 212 though. I'm not saying I agree with these things, I'm just saying what I think his argument was.

@Elmo: Forgetting where your vote is? That sounds really dangerous...

[Elmo TeH AzN]

@Elmo: Forgetting where your vote is? That sounds really dangerous...

I've been doing it a lot lately. Dunno why. Just happens. And I get it was to break the ice but it just seemed off

[Axxle]

Voided, I haven't posted much cause my post is on somebody very sketchy- And I'm waiting for him to get a vote down.

I know this is an old post, but did you ever ask this question Chrimi?

[Chrimi]

Ask what question....?

[Voidedmafia]

Elmo, do explain why you think what you quoted from bon is more scummy than null.

Axxle: No, I don't think he did.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Elmo, do explain why you think what you quoted from bon is more scummy than null.

Axxle: No, I don't think he did.

You could say its lazy town or lazy scum. Or a scum whos just trying to test the waters and see where they can blend in.
Im going for the latter

[Chrimi]

Axxle: No, I don't think he did.

What question am I supposed to be asking -.-

[Voidedmafia]

Voided, I haven't posted much cause my post is on somebody very sketchy- And I'm waiting for him to get a vote down.

Okay, maybe not a

question

, but still

[Axxle]

It's unfortunate that it's 3 in the morning here since it looks like things are just picking up again. I might have to sleep soon.

@Elmo: At the time I was lazy. It was 1 in the morning after a night of drinking and... other... things... maybe...

@Chrimi: You were going to make a post about "somebody very sketchy- And I'm waiting for him to get a vote down." I assume you were talking about Xeph since he had a lot of votes, including one from you which you could have easily unvoted. You talked about him a tiny bit in 218. You mention him incredibly briefly in later posts but nothing really more than "I think he's mafia".

[Chrimi]

Oh.

Yes, I was talking about Xeph.

I made a case about him earlier, kind of short but to the point. Hence VM's vote.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

It's unfortunate that it's 3 in the morning here since it looks like things are just picking up again. I might have to sleep soon.

@Elmo: At the time I was lazy. It was 1 in the morning after a night of drinking and... other... things... maybe...

@Chrimi: You were going to make a post about "somebody very sketchy- And I'm waiting for him to get a vote down." I assume you were talking about Xeph since he had a lot of votes, including one from you which you could have easily unvoted. You talked about him a tiny bit in 218. You mention him incredibly briefly in later posts but nothing really more than "I think he's mafia".

Its 6 am here...Ill get to this later. Going to sleep now

[Voidedmafia]

Oh.

Yes, I was talking about Xeph.

I made a case about him earlier, kind of short but to the point. Hence VM's vote.

...Oh.

*slowly facepalms* right...

[Axxle]

Ack, Xephoria is setting off alarms in my head.
He said he would have his reads up by today (Or yesterday?) but hasn't. He hasn't done anything but post enough to make sure we don't think he's lurking...

Alright well tomorrow I'll make my reads but honestly, they're going to be crappy because some of the people haven't posted or done much (including me) and they'll mostly be gut.

^ What I'm talking about.

Sorry guys, was busy with some stuff. I'll be much more active now.

If you're going to be much more active now, then you should give us that read list you were talking about.

This the post he's referring to. I just don't see a connection with this and post 135 since Xeph only posted about giving reads in post 157...
Actually looking back, I guess Chrimi's just using this as an example of how Xeph seemed to just be lurking? There are less red flags surrounding Chrimi at the moment for me.

On a side note: You can view all posts by one person?! Nice! I'm going to have to use that in the morning.

[Chrimi]

Lol'd.

VM, nice facepalm

[kondi2424]

By the way, if TS flips scum, Chrimi is my top suspect for his partner.

Lucky me, because TS won't flip scum.

Anyways, the

that

I was talking about was your horrible cases.

Anyways, TS & VM conf town.

Kondi, why do I always get scum reads on you >.>

I want explanation of all four of these lines.

[kondi2424]

@nurC & Xeph: Could I get an updated reads list from you guys?

[Axxle]

Not wanting to seem like I'm repeating myself but I'm not liking how lurky Bonooru

LluD

has been. Between them they have 7 posts, two just confirming, one going vla, one coming back from vla. Just not much substance at all coming from them. I don't want to derail the current line of suspicion but I want to reiterate that I would like you to be more active, Bonooru.

[Axxle]

"derail the current line of suspicion" What I mean is I don't necessarily think you're scum, but if you're town we need you more active to help get information.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

VOTE: Nurc
Don't think Im just letting you off the hook Axxle

[kondi2424]

Explain. nurC is one of the most townie peeps here.