New York 152 Niiightless Game Over!

[UberNinja]

I think my "thinking" has been made pretty clear so far.

[noraaa]

Psyche, I think it's clear (lol) that you're struggling to be understood. I struggle with that similarly, and with you in particular.. I think we hit walls because we think in different styles.

HOWever. You can replace the word feeling with whatever appropriate similar word would make it better for you. What I'm trying to say basically is that throughout this game, you have voted for very poor reasons (if stated). It seemed that if someone said Hey Psyche, vote this guy or Hey Psyche, vote someone randomly right this second, you would do it. And that doesn't sit well with me. You don't seem to make most of your votes for reasons that MATTER to YOU and I don't think a lazy townsman would make that kind of judgement call.

[Ythan]

Vote Count

2 Psyche (Pine, UberNinja) L-5
1 inte (CF Riot)
1 UberNinja (Psyche)
0 petapan
0 BK201
0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 Pine

8 Not Voting (petapan, BK201, Kairyuu, crypto, Hiraki, inte, Matias, noraaa)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

[UberNinja]

noraaa, you sound like scum coaching town. and this isn't the first time i've thought this about you.
as a matter of fact, psyche's recent posting has actually made me think he's town.

actually, now that I look back, you've been on every lynch EXCEPT the time we lynched scum, when you were pushing a counter-wagon. you've hopped back and forth a lot, but so far every wagon you've been on was town, and you conspicuously avoided the redFF lynch and pushed Mogri instead.

you also seem to have this "smug because nobody suspects me" attitude which I don't like one damn bit.

so I'm going to do the unexpected and

vote: noraaa

[UberNinja]

Unvote; Vote: noraaa

if an unvote is necessary

[Psyche]

Psyche, I think it's clear (lol) that you're struggling to be understood. I struggle with that similarly, and with you in particular.. I think we hit walls because we think in different styles.

HOWever. You can replace the word feeling with whatever appropriate similar word would make it better for you. What I'm trying to say basically is that throughout this game, you have voted for very poor reasons (if stated). It seemed that if someone said Hey Psyche, vote this guy or Hey Psyche, vote someone randomly right this second, you would do it. And that doesn't sit well with me. You don't seem to make most of your votes for reasons that MATTER to YOU and I don't think a lazy townsman would make that kind of judgement call.

O.o

I voted for BBMolla after making a wallpost case on it.

Redff I voted because of a coming deadline.

Tech stinkin' claimed scum before I voted him.

My mogri vote couldn't be developed because of the reasoning behind it.

And then we have today where I admit my generalized uncertainty.

***

I think that minimally, even as a lazy ass, I might work to do things like ensure that the day doesn't end in a no lynch, vote for players who claim scum, and give at least some input into the game.

I did exactly what a lazy player who still wanted to be IN the game would do.

[noraaa]

I don't coach anyone. I explain my line of thinking.

Vote me if you will, it won't get you anywhere good. I understand as a game you have to go with your gut but. idk what to tell you. This is how I play. Open and transparent.

I think it's weird that you think I'm smug. You have my attitude all wrong. I'm not that kind of personality at all.



Going to bed.

[noraaa]

Also how am I coaching him exactly? I'm struggling to get him to stop saying the same thing over and over about what I reply to him when I rephrase it in as many different contexts as I can imagine hoping he'll finally get what I mean and stop pressing the same exact phrase on me over and over.

[noraaa]

i stand by my reasoning at the time I voted for each person I voted for.

[noraaa]

actually, now that I look back, you've been on every lynch EXCEPT the time we lynched scum, when you were pushing a counter-wagon. you've hopped back and forth a lot, but so far every wagon you've been on was town, and you conspicuously avoided the redFF lynch and pushed Mogri instead.

Also, not true.

I was against redff, but not sold. When told to put up or shut up against him and Mogri, I chose Mogri in iso.

techno was self explanatory and YOU VOTED HIM TOO.

Mogri's death was.. oh yeah I wasn't on that wagon was I.

Ns.. well we both pushed him from day one so.

Where does that leave you?


-really going to bed-

[noraaa]

Psyche, I think it's clear (lol) that you're struggling to be understood. I struggle with that similarly, and with you in particular.. I think we hit walls because we think in different styles.

HOWever. You can replace the word feeling with whatever appropriate similar word would make it better for you. What I'm trying to say basically is that throughout this game, you have voted for very poor reasons (if stated). It seemed that if someone said Hey Psyche, vote this guy or Hey Psyche, vote someone randomly right this second, you would do it. And that doesn't sit well with me. You don't seem to make most of your votes for reasons that MATTER to YOU and I don't think a lazy townsman would make that kind of judgement call.

O.o

I voted for BBMolla after making a wallpost case on it.

Redff I voted because of a coming deadline.

Tech stinkin' claimed scum before I voted him.

My mogri vote couldn't be developed because of the reasoning behind it.

And then we have today where I admit my generalized uncertainty.

***

I think that minimally, even as a lazy ass, I might work to do things like ensure that the day doesn't end in a no lynch, vote for players who claim scum, and give at least some input into the game.

I did exactly what a lazy player who still wanted to be IN the game would do.

I lied. Bed after this.

Game won't end in a nolynch and you should be well aware of that.
Voting because of a deadline when you HAVEN'T READ is not really optimal play. If I hadn't read I would say so and catch up before voting unless it was within 5 hours but hey that's me.

Techno you're right, he did claim scum and looked shifty as fuck, but you basically seemed to say "oh fuck they want me to vote and he's throwing it at me ok sure" and I really never got the feeling that you did much thinking about it beyond that. Nor with your hammer of red. "oh shit ok I'll hammer if you want me to"

No clue what you're saying about Mogri.

[Hiraki]

Vote: Psyche

[Psyche]

Psyche, I think it's clear (lol) that you're struggling to be understood. I struggle with that similarly, and with you in particular.. I think we hit walls because we think in different styles.

HOWever. You can replace the word feeling with whatever appropriate similar word would make it better for you. What I'm trying to say basically is that throughout this game, you have voted for very poor reasons (if stated). It seemed that if someone said Hey Psyche, vote this guy or Hey Psyche, vote someone randomly right this second, you would do it. And that doesn't sit well with me. You don't seem to make most of your votes for reasons that MATTER to YOU and I don't think a lazy townsman would make that kind of judgement call.

O.o

I voted for BBMolla after making a wallpost case on it.

Redff I voted because of a coming deadline.

Tech stinkin' claimed scum before I voted him.

My mogri vote couldn't be developed because of the reasoning behind it.

And then we have today where I admit my generalized uncertainty.

***

I think that minimally, even as a lazy ass, I might work to do things like ensure that the day doesn't end in a no lynch, vote for players who claim scum, and give at least some input into the game.

I did exactly what a lazy player who still wanted to be IN the game would do.

I lied. Bed after this.

Game won't end in a nolynch and you should be well aware of that.
Voting because of a deadline when you HAVEN'T READ is not really optimal play. If I hadn't read I would say so and catch up before voting unless it was within 5 hours but hey that's me.

Techno you're right, he did claim scum and looked shifty as fuck, but you basically seemed to say "oh fuck they want me to vote and he's throwing it at me ok sure" and I really never got the feeling that you did much thinking about it beyond that. Nor with your hammer of red. "oh shit ok I'll hammer if you want me to"

No clue what you're saying about Mogri.

Okay, we seem to be reading different threads. You have your facts wrong.

I

had

read the thread when I voted for redff. I did not hammer red; someone else did.

And no, I did not do much thinking beyond, "Okay, I don't need to read the thread; he just claimed scum." That's not what lazy people do — lazy people look for shortcuts. I didn't vote him because players wanted me to – I haven't done that once this game.

UN's vote on noraaa also reads as shifty. Hiraki's for me has no content or reasoning for it, so I'll just call it dumb.

[noraaa]

Ungh I keep forgetting there were two votes after you, fuck. My assessment of the weirdness of you voting seeminglyjust because still stands, that was how I felt at the time. And deadlines mean squat in this game. I'm sick of talking about the same thing over and over so let's just agree to disagree about how we saw your voting.

I should combine thoughts more when I'm tired but the thoughts come in waves and I don't want to hold the thread up wondering if I might consider something else in a few more minutes.

[inte]

3 Each day will have a deadline of two weeks. If a majority is not reached by that time the player with the most votes will be lynched. In the event of a tie it will be the player who got there first.

[inte]

Unvote; Vote: noraaa

if an unvote is necessary

bro, no

Vote: Psyche

this is the way to go

VOTE: Psyche

[UberNinja]

I vote noraaa....

noraaa posts 5 times in a row...

"I'm going to bed"
*doesn't go to bed*
*posts again*
etc.


Yeah, somebody's nervous.

[inte]

I vote noraaa....

noraaa posts 5 times in a row...

"I'm going to bed"
*doesn't go to bed*
*posts again*
etc.


Yeah, somebody's nervous.

no buddy, i do the same thing when i'm frustrated

[UberNinja]

You and I certainly have different methods of interpretation.

Why the defense of noraaa?

[inte]

You and I certainly have different methods of interpretation.

Why the defense of noraaa?

cause it aint a scumtell, at least for me

it certaintly doesn't look like shes flailing, just attempting to articulate her thoughts

[Pine]

I could see Noraaa scum

[CF Riot]

Two things —
1. Do you reallynthink I voted for UN just because I'm distressed that he voted for me?
2. If so, why do you find this notable?

I get that UN didn't expressly write out his reason for voting you when you asked for it, so I'm sure that's what you're justifying your vote with in your head. However I feel like because UN had expressed suspicion of you earlier in the game, and because he mentioned agreeing with Pine, that his vote is not devoid of any reasons and you are smart enough to realize this. So that means either town-Psyche let his emotions outweigh his rational judgement, thus OMGUS, or scum-Psyche OMGUSed for basically the same reason with the added detail of scum are more likely to use weak reasoning to vote someone than town because town can always vote for the person they think is scummiest, while sometimes the scummiest people are other scum's teammates.

Hiraki is just straight up ignoring me. I'm tired of asking. Someone else besides me take note of this though.

My assessment of the weirdness of [Psyche] voting seemingly just because still stands, that was how I felt at the time.

Nora, do you not get this same impression from Inte, BK, and/or Pine?

[UberNinja]

I could see Noraaa scum

Do elaborate.

[Psyche]

Ungh I keep forgetting there were two votes after you, fuck. My assessment of the weirdness of you voting seeminglyjust because still stands, that was how I felt at the time. And deadlines mean squat in this game. I'm sick of talking about the same thing over and over so let's just agree to disagree about how we saw your voting.

I should combine thoughts more when I'm tired but the thoughts come in waves and I don't want to hold the thread up wondering if I might consider something else in a few more minutes.

I'll agree with you that your vote is groundless and thus subject to as much criticism as a favorite ice cream flavor.

Two things —
1. Do you reallynthink I voted for UN just because I'm distressed that he voted for me?
2. If so, why do you find this notable?

I get that UN didn't expressly write out his reason for voting you when you asked for it, so I'm sure that's what you're justifying your vote with in your head. However I feel like because UN had expressed suspicion of you earlier in the game, and because he mentioned agreeing with Pine, that his vote is not devoid of any reasons and you are smart enough to realize this. So that means either town-Psyche let his emotions outweigh his rational judgement, thus OMGUS, or scum-Psyche OMGUSed for basically the same reason with the added detail of scum are more likely to use weak reasoning to vote someone than town because town can always vote for the person they think is scummiest, while sometimes the scummiest people are other scum's teammates.

Hiraki is just straight up ignoring me. I'm tired of asking. Someone else besides me take note of this though.

My assessment of the weirdness of [Psyche] voting seemingly just because still stands, that was how I felt at the time.

Nora, do you not get this same impression from Inte, BK, and/or Pine?

I recently noted that I had no strong scum reads. Don't you think that might make me more willing to shift my vote under moderately scummy circumstances?

Besides, UN, despite all his talk, truly never did justify his vote that I haven't sufficiently derided. For example, to justify his vote by Pine's reasoning, he'd have to explain why my defense against his reasoning was insufficient.

[CF Riot]

So why aren't you voting Pine instead of Uber? Or Hiraki? Or Inte?