In post 1206, kortul wrote:The thing i don't like is that he was casualy trying to shift suspicions from the slot to the bad play of funky or to lurkiness:
There are two ways I could have come in and responded to funky's poor play. I could have defended it, or I could have admitted it was bad play.
Defending him would have been hard because first off I don't know what he was thinking writing his posts, and secondly he didn't play that well.
Or, I could just be honest and give a fair account of the situation.
I chose to do the latter. Don't see how this was scummy.
During Day 2 his behaviour was completely different. He is unsure of everything, after some subtle nudging from Macro votes him in the middle of the day, but drops his suspicions soon after that.
As far as the playstyle change, I will admit that being completely wrong about LS was rather discouraging and made it difficult for me to figure out reads and such.
I don't see how macro nudged me to vote for macro, could you please show me that quote?
I kept my suspicious up on macro for a while, I dropped them after a while because I was overthinking the situation and then decided he was town. I know it's not the best explanation but that is what happened.
But for DCL scum it makes sense - at that moment his lynch was really close, and he was ready to sacrifice himself to clear Macro spot by faking too strong town read.
At the point where I was close to getting lynched was still during day two where I was really feeling uncertain about reads and stuff so that is why I wasn't willing just to throw out a vote on someone else I thought was town at the time.
His Day 3 is even worse.
No, I would say my play day three has been better than day 2.
First he reminds everyone that he was a victim of scum driven counterwagon to Macro, with Fishy and SA scum. There is some logic in it so far. He votes Fishy, but once Fishy said that DCL isn't among his suspects, Fishy became town to DCL.
Yes, my initial reaction day 3 was to suspect fishy and SA. However, I carefully re-read macro iso,
post 1014
In summery, I didn't feel like macro's interaction with fishy could be that of scum partner's. Yes, it is odd that I dropped my vote quickly, but the first one was just my initial thoughts before I actually did some iso stuff.
Yet he didn't switch to SA. Instead he waited for something to happen, and once Rhinox and Fishy started a wagon on me he jumped there, asking for a claim.
I didn't switch to him because during my re-read I found you, kortul, to be scummier. I jumped on you because I think you are scum. I did make a case on you.
He copied the reason for voting me from Rhinox and Fishy, but while they were arguing their cases, he was just doing something else, not a single comment on anything i say afterwards.
Want to show what I copied, how about some quotes, I'm confidant that I was not plagiarizing them, how about you provide some proof.
Maybe that's because he actually doesn't want to show double standards?
maybe because I didn't want to start a wall post war. I made my case, you gave your defense, I don't always feel like I need to have the last word.
That was the reason why LS become null read for me. Farther, in posts 748 and 751 he finds scummy the attempts of Macro to call him town for dubious reasons and sees it as placating, yet he has no comments when i find the same behaviour from LS scummy.
Not quite getting the point kortul is trying to make here. I don't recall LS trying to placate people, LS sure wasn't calling me town. This point by kortul is a little confusing.
Let's move on. Wagon on SA started, yet DCL makes no attempts to vote the only player remaining scummy on his counterwagon, doesn't even comment him.
um, maybe because I had already done my re-read at that point and had determined that you were the scummiest and had made a case and vote on you kortul.
When wagon on SA rolled to L-1, and Rhinox said that he is ready to hammer, DCL finally joined the crowd.
Um, SA was and still is one of my top three suspects. I didn't join the SA wagon at the start because my vote was on kortul and I would rather see him lynched. I considered voting SA instead because absolutely no one was going on the kortul wagon anymore which I found frusterating.
And what was his answer to Magua question? Kortul, Magua and SA were the only players he was ready to lynch, who at that moment were the only players for whom DCL wasn't a town read.
Hadn't noticed that, I don't think SA was calling me town when I made that list though.
In the last portion of SA research DCL isn't scum anymore, so the next very thing SA becomes DCL weakest scum read, with town vibes. And who is now scum on his counterwagon?
This point is blatently false, SA was already the weaker scum read before his wagon came up. I think I made myself clear that I would rather see you lynched.
So now i am sure that my vote is in the right place. And guess if Magua will say that DCL is town, i will remain his only suspect.
False, SA is still a suspect.
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