Open 420: Medical Mafia - That's all, folks!

[Zachrulez]

CPR will NOT try to kill Rach because he protects his target should it be killed, so he protects her from either the mafia kill or the quack doctor. So she should still have 2 protections left after both attempts,

Doctors just flip doctor. You aren't told which type of doctor you are, it isn't in your PM, so you flip just "doctor". If people flipped their real sanity/modifier, it would start to narrow down peoples own modifier and sanity, it could really help town i think.

How come you don't know this? Don't you have a doctor pm?

To be fair, the doctor role pm itself doesn't tell you what you'll be revealed as. I had to actually just look up the setup in the wiki to confirm that doctors simply flip "doctor".

[Venmar]

Logically though, when someone dies the mod reveals the title of your role, hence, just doctor.

I understand the confusion though.

[izakthegoomba]

Sorry for any confusion - Doctors will indeed just flip as "Doctor", regardless of sanity. I will update the OP to be clearer on the matter.

[FuDuzn]

UNVOTE:

Hmm, I guess Jackyll doing what he did would be pretty dumb to do as scum in a setup like this. I really seriously need to give this game a good once over.

[Mortontfrh]

Just to parrot what a few others have been saying; putting everyone on Rach is a terrible idea. I haven't had the opportunity to look into past MM games yet, but one of the obvious strengths of the set up comes later on when people can actually start figuring out what type of doctor they are. Just placing everyone on Rach just turns this game into 6 VT + 1 Mason/Innocent Child set up, which obviously doesn't favor town at all.

The nurse role is probably the least important role out of anyone save for the fact that it's confirm-able. I don't see how keeping one confirmed town alive is worth giving up every PR we have and allow scum to pick someone off at their whim without worrying about the massive wifom that they would have to deal with otherwise.

Hmm, I guess Jackyll doing what he did would be pretty dumb to do as scum in a setup like this.

Are you implying that it would be a smart thing for town to do in a setup like this? Explain to me why you think that it's a smart town gambit but a dumb scum gambit.

Also FudUzn are you always this non-committal in your games?

[RachMarie]

I dont want all the docs to protect me that would be nuts spread it around and protect the people you feel are most likely not scum. One thing I do know about scum is they do not always NK the confirmed townie esp one like mine which is a VT until a doc dies.

[FuDuzn]

Morton, Jackyll is dumb either way. But I think it would be insanely dumb for Jackyll-scum to do that.

And yes, on Day 1 I generally am very wishy washy and non-committal. I tend to tighten up as the game goes on.

[Venmar]

Morton, Jackyll is dumb either way. But I think it would be insanely dumb for Jackyll-scum to do that.

And yes, on Day 1 I generally am very wishy washy and non-committal. I tend to tighten up as the game goes on.

- I can probably vouch for FuDuzn when i say that he tends to do a whole lot more after day 1. However, i don't think this is indicative of alignment because i am sure you do that as both alignments. This is a null tell, and should not be taken in a townie or scummy way in my honest opinion.

[Mortontfrh]

Morton, Jackyll is dumb either way. But I think it would be insanely dumb for Jackyll-scum to do that.

And yes, on Day 1 I generally am very wishy washy and non-committal. I tend to tighten up as the game goes on.

That doesn't answer the question at all, perhaps I wasn't clear enough. You seem to think it was a dumb thing for scum to do, so i'll ask again - What was the

town

motivation for Jackal self voting and how was it a

town

driven action.

[FuDuzn]

Well as dumb of a play as it was, it probably was from a town perspective. I say this because as I said, would be insane for scum to do this. So I guess it is not so much that I think he is helping town, just that I can't see him as scum.

[yellowbounder]

Deadline is coming up, are we going to lynch anyone?

Lack of Day 1 lynch gives us no information.

[izakthegoomba]

Mod: Does the paranoid doctor block the nurse from taking over?
Doc protects protect against Doc kills, correct?

The Nurse inherits the power of a Doctor the instant one dies - therefore, it cannot be blocked.

Yes, Doctors prevent one kill each, regardless of it's source.

Votecount 1.10

Time Traveling Scumhunter (4) - RachMarie, yellowbounder, Venmar, Jackal711
Jackal711 (2) - Mortontfrh, Robocopter87
Zachrulez (1) - Time Traveling Scumhunter
RachMarie (0) -

none

yellowbounder (0) -

none

Robocopter87 (0) -

none

FuDuzn (0) -

none

Mortontfrh (0) -

none

Venmar (0) -

none

No Lynch (0) -

none

Not voting (2) - Zachrulez, FuDuzn

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

RachMarie is V/LA until 21st July

The deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-19 04:21:01).

[FuDuzn]

Well, a little over one day till deadline. I no longer want to lynch Jackyll and the only other reall option is TTS.

So I am stating my intent to drop the hammer.

[RachMarie]

@ FuDuzn

Is there anyone you find really scummy? Do you at all find TTS scummy?

[FuDuzn]

I was honestly finding you scummy up until your claim, Rach. And I thought I had Jackyll pegged from the beginning but I think I 'logiced' myself out of that.

As for TTS, the way he just went right after Zach and virtually ignored everyone else did raise some red flags. I really don't have a strong read on anyone right now, or at least a strong scum read. But with just over a day to go it is best to settlt on a lynch now then trying to scramble tomorrow.

[RachMarie]

yes a NL is bad especially on D1

I have a strong feeling TTS is scum. His lack of focus on anyone else could be a ploy to keep his options open for more mislynches later.

[Zachrulez]

Oh right, I forgot I have to wait at least 24 hours for TTS to be able to react to my intention to hammer, and we'll have to wait 24 more for a reaction to Fuduzn's.

Just getting a tad ridiculous.

[FuDuzn]

Zach let's make it easy. Pretty clear that TTS will claim Doc, and I know it is against the norm, but right now it is about 12:43 local time. I go to play volleyball at 6, but if TTS hasn't posted I will hammer no later then 5:30.

Good/bad?

[Venmar]

Zach let's make it easy. Pretty clear that TTS will claim Doc, and I know it is against the norm, but right now it is about 12:43 local time. I go to play volleyball at 6, but if TTS hasn't posted I will hammer no later then 5:30.

Good/bad?

- Lol you play volleyball?

[Zachrulez]

Zach let's make it easy. Pretty clear that TTS will claim Doc, and I know it is against the norm, but right now it is about 12:43 local time. I go to play volleyball at 6, but if TTS hasn't posted I will hammer no later then 5:30.

Good/bad?

I'm probably going to hammer him earlier than that.

[Zachrulez]

Like right now...

Vote: Time Traveling Scumhunter

Because what I'm waiting for should have already been posted and there isn't much point in dragging out what is clearly inevitable at this point.

[FuDuzn]

I can live with that Zach.

And Venmar, what is wrong with volleyball?

[Zachrulez]

I can live with that Zach.

And Venmar, what is wrong with volleyball?

Beach Volleyball or Indoor Volleyball?

[FuDuzn]

Technically it is grass volleyball, outdoors in a park.

[Zachrulez]

Technically it is grass volleyball, outdoors in a park.

There's usually a group of people doing that when I walk by the park with my wife. Is it hot and humid where you are?