NY 154: Return to Boring Town - Game Over

nhammen · Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:18 am

Addendum to 1) Your play doesn't match any of the alternatives I can think of, so you do look extremely close to confirmed town.
Addendum to 2) If anyone was lining up lynches it was Empking, although I personally don't think that is what he was doing.

Toon Fighter · Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:34 am

vote: Salamence

obvscum here

nhammen · Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:00 am

In post 101, Empking wrote:Rofl: You're mutually voting each other and Pre is the only one voting you.
The interaction is that he only mentions your name when he votes you. He also voted a player noty voting him which in the context of the rest of his play is weird and suggests a connection with you.

or the person he was voting. But, yes. If you accept that there is a logical conclusion to be reached from Prescending's play, then 1 of rofl and sala is scum. In that case I would lean towards rofl. Sala was voting pre, while rofl didn't until the end. That's only a minor point though because it could be distancing. rofl's hammer was also a bit weird; calling pre scum without having any previous indication of thinking this, or explaining what led him to this conclusion. But I don't accept the premise in the first place.

mcqueen · Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:46 am

I feel loved. <3

Also, besides the Salamence wagon, to base whoever it was's alignment off of his [Slamence] flip, all other wagons are complete shit. They are based off tiny spokes of land, leading off an island, not a huge boat sitting right in the docks. They seem almost "third party votes," meaning they are based off of an already controversial lynch. This reasoning seems pure shit to me, as finding out what someone is, to not find out what someone else is, won't help us find out what whoever it was (the person I can't remember above) is. Not worth it.

We are going to lynch Salamence for -

A. To base whoever it was's alignment off of his flip.
OR
B. Because he's scummy.

And we are going to -

A. Not lynch "third party votes."
AND
B. Lynch actual scum.

PMysterious · Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:57 am

I'm afraid mcqueen is right. Salamence20 is the wagon of choice for this game day.

VOTE: Salamence20

mcqueen · Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:59 am

VOTE: Salamence

That's L-2.

PMysterious · Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:34 am

Woah, um, I don't think we should have the day end as early as Day 1.

nhammen · Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:45 am

In post 87, Arugula wrote:Also, we have 2 scum down on D2. Unless we completely fuck this up, town should win this. NO QUICKLYNCHES. Scum want a fast paced game with no information revealed.

I am very uncomfortable with someone being at L-2 already. Also, I would like to hear MoI's response to sala.

Nocmen · Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:54 am

Out to find the others responsible for the deaths, the town quickly gets to work as the sun slowly lights up the village. And they are quick to start the finger pointing, and seem to be quickly getting over the death of their tracker.

Vote Count 4

Salamence20 - 6(VisceraEyes, Arugula, McStab, Toon Fighter, PMysterious, mcqueen)
roflcopter - 2(Empking, Velazanth)
Empking - 1(roflcopter)

Not Voting - 5(MagnaOfIllusion, nhammen, Toogeloo, Tangion, Salamence20)

Arugula · Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:00 am

In post 132, nhammen wrote:
In post 87, Arugula wrote:Also, we have 2 scum down on D2. Unless we completely fuck this up, town should win this. NO QUICKLYNCHES. Scum want a fast paced game with no information revealed.

I am very uncomfortable with someone being at L-2 already. Also, I would like to hear MoI's response to sala.

This.

mcqueen · Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:21 am

2 scum left (possibly only 1, but at most 2). Salamence20 is at L-2. If he's quickhammered, we can figure it out.

I'm not saying 2 people should just quickhammer him, but no damage is done by him being at L-2.

Salamence20 · Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:24 am

You know what would truely be ironic. Me flipping town and MoI being scum. Im sure hes not, but it would be if town let him live under the radar.

Toonfighter and PM votes are really scummy. It smells of scum jumping on a mislynch.

But, if I get lynched before im back. Im VT, like every game i am in. I was very happy in may D1 play, because it seems I was at least acting more town than scummy than I always play, the I fucked up. Im sorry town.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:59 am

UNVOTE: Sal

Time.

VisceraEyes · Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:22 am

I just reread the thread in it's entirety. I'm gonna go back to hyperlurking. NO QUICKLYNCHES I'M WATCHING YOU!!!

Before anyone asks, yes I have opinions, no I'm not sharing them right now (soon), and yes you can touch my hand. If you want.

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:50 am

Hey all ... I see Nocman didn't pass on my weekend LA status I pmed him about.

I'm LA with family duties (like every weekend) so you will have to wait for a comprehensive post til at least Sunday sometime. In the meantime I'll say that Sala's "You killed MOI you bastards" is something I don't think I can let go as it would be a stupid post as scum but an even dumber post as Town. I do not subscribe to "Too Dumb for Scum" and I cannot believe the explanation given. I'm not going to vote him immediately ... give me 48 more hours please.

One other thing stuck out at me in my quick scan ...

In post 89, Arugula wrote:Also, if/when Salamence flips scum, MoI is conftown.

I hate buddying. It makes me itch. Especially coming from someone I found suspect when reading Day 1. Salamance flips scum and this is a pretty blatant distancing job IMO.

Salamence20 · Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:58 am

In post 139, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Hey all ... I see Nocman didn't pass on my weekend LA status I pmed him about.

I'm LA with family duties (like every weekend) so you will have to wait for a comprehensive post til at least Sunday sometime. In the meantime I'll say that Sala's "You killed MOI you bastards" is something I don't think I can let go as it would be a stupid post as scum but an even dumber post as Town. I do not subscribe to "Too Dumb for Scum" and I cannot believe the explanation given. I'm not going to vote him immediately ... give me 48 more hours please.

MoI, I know you think this is a dumb post, but do you remember the person who posted it? Seriously could you see any scum being this stupid? Remember what you told me? Seriously a dumb post like this is something you expect from me.

Arugula · Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:01 am

@MoI
How am I buddying to you? I think Salamence expected you to be the kill, and said, "Oh, man, MoI died!" because he thought you died. Obviously, scum doesn't kill scum, so you would be pretty much considered town if Salamence flips scum.

And what makes that distancing as opposed to everything else that has been posted about Salamence?

mcqueen · Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:05 pm

PMysterious · Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:31 pm

In post 141, Arugula wrote:@MoI
How am I buddying to you? I think Salamence expected you to be the kill, and said, "Oh, man, MoI died!" because he thought you died. Obviously, scum doesn't kill scum, so you would be pretty much considered town if Salamence flips scum.

And what makes that distancing as opposed to everything else that has been posted about Salamence?

What if both are town or scum? I bet you haven't thought of that yet.

Tangion · Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:41 pm

Wow the days seem to be going by to fast I need to do a more in depth read through but for right now I would like to agree with nha that VE is not necessarily conf town just because he killed scum at night Im still fairly new to this game so I'm not to familiar with vig roles but I do know that third party roles exist that are neither town or scum and I dont think we should make mcqueen conf town just for pressing the lynch on the mob boss

for now i will VOTE: rofl that hammer seemed too quick and too sure stinks bad of distancing imo

Toogeloo · Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:09 pm

I originally suspected the possibility of a SK VE, which is why asked for his thought process in choosing IaI. But his play today has pushed that thought from my mind. He is too prominent and with a dead Tracker, I don't see a motivation to bring attention to himself as third party. I'd say VE is more likely town than third party.

Adding to my town reads, Velazanth is at the top. I also like nhammen, McStab, and mcqueen (in most like to a little less sure).

nhammen · Post Post #146 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:13 pm

In post 135, mcqueen wrote:2 scum left (possibly only 1, but at most 2). Salamence20 is at L-2. If he's quickhammered, we can figure it out.

I'm not saying 2 people should just quickhammer him, but no damage is done by him being at L-2.

My problem is that finding the last scum would essentially be random, because we have so little to go on. I don't particularly like that. But if he is scum, I don't see what else should be done instead...

In post 140, Salamence20 wrote:MoI, I know you think this is a dumb post, but do you remember the person who posted it? Seriously could you see any scum being this stupid? Remember what you told me? Seriously a dumb post like this is something you expect from me.

In post 59, Salamence20 wrote:MoI: stupid and scummy, stupid scum. I'm sorry, kinda figured it was implied. I'm going to start being verbatim.

Do you see what I see here?

In post 143, PMysterious wrote:
In post 141, Arugula wrote:@MoI
How am I buddying to you? I think Salamence expected you to be the kill, and said, "Oh, man, MoI died!" because he thought you died. Obviously, scum doesn't kill scum, so you would be pretty much considered town if Salamence flips scum.

And what makes that distancing as opposed to everything else that has been posted about Salamence?

What if both are town or scum? I bet you haven't thought of that yet.

Ummm... he just gave a legitimate argument for why they aren't both scum, and you quoted it... And he has never said they aren't both town. So, what was this?

Empking · Post Post #147 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:46 pm

In post 142, mcqueen wrote:...

What is this about?

PMysterious · Post Post #148 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:38 pm

In post 146, nhammen wrote:

In post 143, PMysterious wrote:
In post 141, Arugula wrote:@MoI
How am I buddying to you? I think Salamence expected you to be the kill, and said, "Oh, man, MoI died!" because he thought you died. Obviously, scum doesn't kill scum, so you would be pretty much considered town if Salamence flips scum.

And what makes that distancing as opposed to everything else that has been posted about Salamence?

What if both are town or scum? I bet you haven't thought of that yet.

Ummm... he just gave a legitimate argument for why they aren't both scum, and you quoted it... And he has never said they aren't both town. So, what was this?

Just a question I had in mind for Arugula. That's all.

Empking · Post Post #149 (ISO) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:40 pm

In post 148, PMysterious wrote:
In post 146, nhammen wrote:

In post 143, PMysterious wrote:
In post 141, Arugula wrote:@MoI
How am I buddying to you? I think Salamence expected you to be the kill, and said, "Oh, man, MoI died!" because he thought you died. Obviously, scum doesn't kill scum, so you would be pretty much considered town if Salamence flips scum.

And what makes that distancing as opposed to everything else that has been posted about Salamence?

What if both are town or scum? I bet you haven't thought of that yet.

Ummm... he just gave a legitimate argument for why they aren't both scum, and you quoted it... And he has never said they aren't both town. So, what was this?

Just a question I had in mind for Arugula. That's all.

FOS: PM

- That's the most pathetic rebuttal I've ever heard. (I'm half surprised it didn't end with "that's my opinion. You can't judge an opinion."