Open 420: Medical Mafia - That's all, folks!

[Venmar]

Also, in that same quote you state twice that I should just magically accept you as town.

- I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU THINK OF ME. I SIMPLY SAID WHAT I THOUGHT AND WHAT I THINK OF YOU, BUT NOT THAT I CARE WHAT YOU THINK OF ME, BELIEVE ME OR DON'T BELIEVE ME.

Are you being intentionally obtuse? You stated that Jackal was one of the two biggest wagons D2, which means he was either the largest leading wagon or he was the second largest wagon. How is this so difficult to understand? Do I need to quote your post for the third time where you state that Jackal/TTS were the two largest wagons D1?

- Why are you putting words in my mouth? Rach, TTS, and Jackal were all L-1 at one point.

[Mortontfrh]

The whole thing with me having to quote it a third time was kind of rhetorical, but apparently you are incapable of even reading your own posts. Here's hoping that you can understand your own posts the third time I quote it!

Now, with TTS and Jackal both ending up dead, I am starting to rethink some of my reads. Both of them were the strongest scum reads and wagons on Day 1, both flipped town.

[Venmar]

*sigh*
/headdesk

[Robocopter87]

They were strong scum reads.

He thought they were scum.

They died.

They flipped town.

What is there not to get, Mort? I don't see what you are getting at

[Mortontfrh]

...was my original point really that unclear about his contradiction stating that Jackal wasn't a likely lynch target despite his recognition that there was a strong wagon on him D1?

I'll highlight the two posts again:

Exhibit A when discussing the viability of a Jackal night kill he says that Jackal wasn't a likely lynch target because people weren't comfortable lynching him based off of his meta:

- Because I think you realized a lot of people realized people weren't comfortable with lynching him based off of his meta. I also doubt you would have given it a second try to revive a dead/dying wagon on a player without drawing unneeded attention to yourself.

Exhibit B at the start of the day recognizing that Jackal was one of the two largest wagons (I also highlighted another quote where he says that Jackal was an easy lynch, which completely contradicts the above quote as well).

Now, with TTS and Jackal both ending up dead, I am starting to rethink some of my reads. Both of them were the strongest scum reads and wagons on Day 1, both flipped town.

I really thought that #384 pointed out this contradiction quite succinctly.

[Robocopter87]

Ummm. No.

Nobody wanted to kill Jackal because it was normal for Jackal to act like an imbecile scummy VI.

That doesn't mean he doesn't think he was scum. That means that we didn't want to kill him because of his meta.

He thought he was scum, we didn't kill him (Even though we wanted to). He has to rethink his reads because he died during the night and flipped town.

Thus. His two scumreads turned out to be town. Thus he needs to rethink.

I'm not defending Venmar but you are blatantly misrepping him.

[yellowbounder]

Yeah, Mort, I have no idea what you're talking about.

I wasn't comfortable lynching Jackal based on his meta either, and a bandwagon of votes doesn't result in actual town consensus.
Venmar hasn't really contradicted himself.

[yellowbounder]

*bump* I'm still here.

[Venmar]

@Robocopter - Who is your top scum read right now?
@FuDuzn - Where did you go? I thought you always step up your game after Day 1? In addition, what are your top scum reads right now?

[FuDuzn]

Ven, I haven't had a whole lot of motivation for MS lately, and the slow pace of this game isn't helping.

But, I will say that between you/Zach/Morton there is at least one scum. I would like to lynch between these three, my gut is saying Zach but my brain is saying Mort.

[RachMarie]

eeehhh I can understand why peeps want to lynch Mort, but my gut says town, I have seen him play like this as town several times.

[Robocopter87]

Aren't you dead?

[Robocopter87]

Aren't you dead?

Nevermind that. I screwed up games.

[Robocopter87]

Rach is so lucky she is confirmed. I'd be all up in her grill if she wasn't.

To answer whoever the heck asked me about my scumreads.

It is currently yellowbounder and funduxuzhbuuzbguzbavsbdkjhsd

[RachMarie]

ROFL I am not dead in this game yet

Anyways I am not white knighting him I just have seen his behavior so many times as town and in those games his behavior was just like this. I usually try to figure out who is most likely town while figuring out the scum because it helps me narrow down the scum pool.

[izakthegoomba]

Votecount 2.03

Venmar (2) - Zachrulez, Mortontfrh
Mortontfrh (1) - yellowbounder
Zachrulez (1) - Venmar
RachMarie (0) -

none

yellowbounder (0) -

none

Robocopter87 (0) -

none

FuDuzn (0) -

none

No Lynch (0) -

none

Not voting (3) - RachMarie, Robocopter87, FuDuzn

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline: (expired on 2012-08-04 11:02:25)

[FuDuzn]

VOTE: Morton

Might as well just go ahead and vote.

[Zachrulez]

Having stomach issues, missed a day of work today. I'll have another look at this tomorrow.

[yellowbounder]

Rach and Robo need to be voting people.

[Robocopter87]

VOTE: Morton

Might as well just go ahead and vote.

VOTE: Fuduzn

Way to wagon.

Second pick is YB.

[FuDuzn]

What the fuck are you talking about, Robo?

[Venmar]

Yeah, i'm with FuDuzn, there wasn't much wrong with his post.

Robocopter, are you not suspicious of Morton or Zach at all? Your attitude in that post hinted you were defending Morton for some reason.

[Robocopter87]

Are you kidding?

Look at his ISO, he never says a word about Mort being scum until he says that Mort might be scum out of a group of three.

And now he just happens to place a vote on someone who has a little bit of pressure?

I call BS. He doesn't have any case on Mort.

Mort is pretty obvtown, btw. The fact that he wished to conceal his action doesn't make sense at all from scum POV. Scum would definitely like to make sure that they state their action clearly in order to not be trapped by misinformation. Plus he is making genuine attempts at scumhunting (Even if they are weird and false). He is trying. I believe him to be town.

[Mortontfrh]

Yeah, Mort, I have no idea what you're talking about.

I wasn't comfortable lynching Jackal based on his meta either, and a bandwagon of votes doesn't result in actual town consensus.
Venmar hasn't really contradicted himself.

Looking over my posts again you're probably right.

Unvote

Mort is pretty obvtown, btw. The fact that he wished to conceal his action doesn't make sense at all from scum POV. Scum would definitely like to make sure that they state their action clearly in order to not be trapped by misinformation. Plus he is making genuine attempts at scumhunting (Even if they are weird and false). He is trying. I believe him to be town.

I mean there's that...Or there's the fact that my role is confirm-able and Fud/Yellow still opted to vote me.

Vote: FuDuzn

[Robocopter87]

Confirmable? How? Sorry did I miss something?