NY Mafia 155 - New Age Mafia II - Game Over!

[OhGodMyLife]

Psyche replaces iamausername. Hip hip, hooray!

[JDodge]

Also need to note that I don't like the way nhammen has responded to pressure regardless of how awful the initial logic on his current wagon is. Would be willing to lynch when I'm ready to settle down on a scum target instead of a PLAY THE FUCKING GAME YOU ASSHOLES target.

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

10 to lynch

nhammen: 7 (Primate, Psyche, Rhinox, redFF, singersigner, Quilford, Glork)
singersigner: 5 (nhammen, Staeg, Flameaxe, Simenon, bv310)
bv310: 1 (Bella)
Rhinox: 1 (McStab)
Tierce: 1 (Quagmire)
Glork: 1 (scooby)
Quilford: 1 (AGar)
redFF: 1 (Tierce)
Bella: 1 (JDodge)

Not Voting: 0

Current Deadline:

Sunday August 5th, 10 PM EST

[Glork]

Also need to note that I don't like the way nhammen has responded to pressure regardless of how awful the initial logic on his current wagon is. Would be willing to lynch when I'm ready to settle down on a scum target instead of a PLAY THE FUCKING GAME YOU ASSHOLES target.

On that note, why are you still voting Bella, even if she isn't PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME? She is an Innocent Child afterall, so even as pressure/point, your vote is literally beyond useless.

[Psyche]

Hey, "guys". This "game" seems "fun". I "suspect" it'll be "stressful", though.

[Psyche]

unvote

[Glork]

Claim now.

[Simenon]

computer in the shop + sick. This is to prevent a prod. iPhone post tomorrow

[Tierce]

Waiting for the two claims--prod dodge.

[Psyche]

why are we claiming?

[Tierce]

That is not the correct answer.

[Psyche]

I claim VT.

UNVOTE: redFF
VOTE: nhammen

He said "I claim VT", not "I am a VT".

I just searched through 8 pages of nhammen posts on the site containing the word 'claim', and found these examples of nhammen claiming roles as scum:

Since I am the only unclaimed person here, I'm going to claim VT right now. Sorry to disappoint Pine, apparently there is no Doctor.

I saw that we are doing a massclaim, and thanks to the fact that silver asked for me to be next to claim at the top of a page, I know that I am next.

Claim: VT

and these examples of nhammen claiming roles as town:

I have a feeling that I'm going to be lynched before I can claim, so I'll do that now. I'm an odd-day cop with a bulletproof vest.

It seems it is time for me to claim. I am a roleblocker. And I would also make claims about the intelligence of the people on this wagon, but I think that would be against the site rules.

and precisely zero counter examples.

Let's lynch nhammen.

That's an interesting thing to do a study on.

I refuse to claim until someone responds cooperatively. I'm pretty sure my question's harmless.

[Psyche]

Sigh.

Sane cop.

[AGar]

I'm somewhat pleased with the way singer is responding to pressure by actually playing, even if she's not really getting anywhere and being uselessly antagonistic. NEXT TARGET ON THE ACTIVITY OR DIE LIST

unvote, vote: Bella

Time to step the fuck up, Izzy.

Uhhhhhhhh.

Like... UHHHHHHHHHH.

[bv310]

Not while a mass claim is going on please and thank you.

then you came back and claimed when it was pretty much agreed that the MC was dead at that point.

wait what

How do you reach the conclusion that it is 'pretty much agreed that the massclaim is dead' when everybody has claimed but you, umoms and Quag?

Because no one was calling for claim, it had been established that it was a bad idea, and the concept was a dead one being pushed along by other/better things going on. For being caught up on the thread, it seemed silly that he was so eager to jump onto the MC train--looked like he was trying to "fit in" with all the other Cool Kids who thought it was a good idea to claim.

Singer, why haven't you claimed yet?

Did I ever give you the impression that I would? If so, I'm really sorry about that, and I'ma let you finish, but this mass claim idea was the worst idea ever.

It's k, though, Glork learned from his mistake. Now you can either lynch me or let scum decide if I'm important enough to kill, or worth saving for a mislynch later. ... Nannynannybooboo.

So you don't want discussion during a massclaim, but you won't participate? That's your argument here? (Also, I loved the taunting. Very in-line with the quality of your posting so far)

[JDodge]

Also need to note that I don't like the way nhammen has responded to pressure regardless of how awful the initial logic on his current wagon is. Would be willing to lynch when I'm ready to settle down on a scum target instead of a PLAY THE FUCKING GAME YOU ASSHOLES target.

On that note, why are you still voting Bella, even if she isn't PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME? She is an Innocent Child afterall, so even as pressure/point, your vote is literally beyond useless.

symbolic, mostly; i'm committed to getting people to play this fucking game

just assume my vote is already on nhammen, in the meantime i'm not moving it even if it is pointless because you all are fucking better than this and i am severely disappointed in all of you

i am very scared about iaun claiming just cop and then psyche claiming specifically sane

[Psyche]

Yeah. Two cop claims.

...Any docs?

[singersigner]

Yeah. Two cop claims.

...Any docs?

You should read the game.

[Psyche]

Yeah...

[Tierce]

JD, all Normal cops are sane, so it wouldn't surprise me if Psyche had that stated in his role PM.

Where is McStab?

[Tierce]

Not even an hello?

[nhammen]

I can't see how someone can see redFF's latest posts and miss the opportunistic bullshit right there.

I agree. I showed that the logic behind this was wrong, and he decided to jump on anyways without refuting my arguments. Singer did the same thing. So, two of the people that I think are scum decided to act exactly how scum would act. How interesting.

This is true, the accusation itself is kinda crap, but nhammen justifies the accusation by trying to counter it, when he could have just said this:

Either way, this is a bad argument.

and been done with it.

So, what you are saying is if someone accuses me of something, I shouldn't respond to it and should just say lolno instead? I do not agree with this at all. If I see a logical argument which I know is false, I will use logic to show everyone that it is false.

I think nhammen has been scummy this game, and I definitely agree with Rhinox that his reaction to this has been tragically desperate, but unless I can get a list of the games nhammen has been in and for which this pattern holds true, this case is dumb.

Both username and myself provided links to the posts in question in the quote format. This shows where it holds true and where it does not.

In any case, why do you automatically assume it's an uncritical acceptance of iam's case as opposed to a critical unacceptance of nhammen's reaction? That's pretty clearly neither my thought process nor my reason for voting nhammen.

There wasn't anything critical about your post. You never mentioned me or the case on me in that post.

Vote: nhammen

Reasons? Do you agree with the case? If so, why didn't you vote me earlier?

That's an interesting thing to do a study on.

What do you mean by interesting? Is there a reason you brought this up?

[Psyche]

Sorry, that was tangential. For when I read my iso months from now.

[nhammen]

Did you realize that you replaced the person that did that study?

[Psyche]

No.

I wasn't interested in it because of its reference to you, but because of its assumption that seemingly harmless differences in word choice can predict scumhood.

I don't plan to take the idea seriously at all during this game.