ny 157 ENDGAME RIP 2 KEVIN COSTNER (secret waterworld flavor

[kondi2424]

Salamence, why are you okay with Natalie shooting me, but not shooting me yourself?

Also, that's some threat.

I recommend you stay strong through this and deny Salamence's request, Natalie.

[OnceAndForEver]

Salamence, you need to shoot shamrock...... now.

[Salamence20]

Salamence, why are you okay with Natalie shooting me, but not shooting me yourself?

Also, that's some threat.

I recommend you stay strong through this and deny Salamence's request, Natalie.

This is a joke, right?

Why do I have to shoot?

Why do you trust Natalie?

P-edit: no.

[kondi2424]

Salamence, you need to shoot shamrock...... now.

I'll accept this.

PEdit: 1) No.

2) This should be obvious.

3) Explaining towntells is a bad thing.

[kondi2424]

Well that's awkward since

I'm

the dayvig.

Explain or die. For real. If I'm not satisfied, you're dead.

P-edit: kondi, I'll give him a chance to explain first. This better be good.

Ill shoot kondi right now.

Don't
Even
Fuck
With
Me

This is not a joke

Why were you willing to do it then, but not now?

[Salamence20]

Why are you willing to die?

What town benefit does that lead too

[kondi2424]

Because I doubt I will, and I'm making scum easier to catch. I think you're scum. If you're not scum, Shamrock most definitely is. OAFE is scummy on either side, but moreso without you.

[Furry]

*sigh*

OAFE... hun I love your enthusiasm but you are wrong about so much please just step back for a second.

First - BOTH of the dayvigs are proving themselves today. The kill does not end the day so there is no problem with both shooting and confirming themselves as town.

Second - As I am a PR who gets better after a massclaim, we are massclaiming. If someone refuses to massclaim, we can just shoot them. Thats the benifit of the day vig

Third - You do not shoot anyone who has not claimed unless they are refusing to claim.

Here is the plan of attack for today
1) We finish a massclaim. inte is up
2) Both the vigs shoot
3) If a vig doesnt shoot, we lynch them
4) If both vigs shoot, we basically get three lynches, two confirmed town, and me being a huge thorn in the scums side.

Shamrock can become maybe town which kondi drops into for a really bad last couple pages.

Lynch list is inte and DV now

Vote DV

[Salamence20]

Here is the plan of attack for today
1) We finish a massclaim. inte is up
2) Both the vigs shoot
3) If a vig doesnt shoot, we lynch them
4) If both vigs shoot, we basically get three lynches, two confirmed town, and me being a huge thorn in the scums side.

Finally, someone I can agree to.

[OnceAndForEver]

I seem to be rather outvoted on this whole massclaim thing.... so be it. finish massclaim... then shoot people. I will accept this order of operations, but I would like the record to show I am doing this under duress.

[DeasVail]

In that case..

Unvote: Shamrock

Vote: Furry

[kondi2424]

In that case..

Unvote: Shamrock

Vote: Furry

no

[drmyshotgun]

Well, DV is pretty sharp imo.
May I suggest Vig to shoot Petapan?

[DeasVail]

Well, DV is pretty sharp imo

Only on special occasions unfortunately

I don't think Furry is scum (which means he probably is)

[petapan]

NS is town.

you hand out town reads far too easily

Well, DV is pretty sharp imo

Only on special occasions unfortunately

I don't think Furry is scum (which means he probably is)

wtf

[petapan]

Well, DV is pretty sharp imo.
May I suggest Vig to shoot Petapan?

don't shoot me i'm a ~power role~

[I Am Innocent]

Furry, there are no protective roles. So a mass claim basically gets rid of confirmed town players that we could use in the end game.

Factor in an investigative role will likely be killed/blocked/etc, we lose information N1 that we could gain otherwise if we even waited until D2!

To kondi, the dayvig(s) are the most confirmed townie player(s) we have and you forced them out D1 without any protective players. That is scummy.

Salamence flopping around is starting to make me feel very uncomfortable. And should obv go 1st for vig shots. If he refuses, Natalie should shoot him because I take that as confirming his is scum.

Nobody shoots another player until that player has claimed.

ONCE AGAIN, MASSCLAIMING, ESP D1 IS A BAAAAAAAADDDDDDD IDEA!. We're not doing it.

[Salamence20]

Look

Kondi, inte, shamrock

Fullclaim or die

[Salamence20]

Natalie, don't shoot me.

[DeasVail]

So a mass claim basically gets rid of confirmed town players that we could use in the end game.

But haven't the two most townie roles already been outed?

[petapan]

dayvigs out themselves by virtue of being dayvigs whats yr point

also i'm a really important role, too.

[DeasVail]

If you're talking to me, my point is that I don't understand why IAI is all "noo don't massclaim because we'll lose our conftown roles" when the two dayvigs (who are easy to confirm as town, so why would scum claim it?) are already out.

[petapan]

because the mafia can target roles that do things at night

[DeasVail]

Ah true.

Hmm, problem is I'm really just waiting for the massclaim to happen, and I don't even know if it's happening anymore.

[drmyshotgun]

Dayvigs can be proven.