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[Staeg]

basically said he hadn't caught up on the thread and etc

What?

[InflatablePie]

Don't have the logs because LoL, but you had said you weren't completely caught up on the thread or something to that effect, and then smacked a vote down on MoS.

I remember telling someone (probs esurio) so maybe I can dig up a skype log

[xRECKONERx]

you told me too

[Mastermind of Sin]

Me: Mhm, last time I played on a scumteam with him... I was to see the wagon through.

I 100000% never got this message.

Not that it would really matter, since the last time Espeonage played on a scumteam with me he flaked out of the game completely and never actually paid attention to what was going on, completely screwing me and the rest of our scumteam in the process as he singlehandedly lost us the game. So he really had no justification bringing that up in reference to a vote on me.

[Staeg]

Nope. I'm 100% sure that I didn't say anything to that matter - I've been 100% caught up with the thread since the initial 1-day-replacement phase thingy.

[Mastermind of Sin]

you told me too

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm sorry, I'm not moving my vote because of a confirmable claim known only to Reck, even if Reck is town.

MoS, would you mind having a third party corroborate that your claim is worth not killing you over? Say.... Hito or Nacho?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Or fuck, even DRK?

[InflatablePie]

Reck's being a lazygay and doing dishes and whatnot but wanted me to post for him, saying MoS and him have told a third party or something-or-other.

[InflatablePie]

ebwop: *actually not being a lazygay

[xRECKONERx]

Reck's being a lazygay and doing dishes and whatnot but wanted me to post for him, saying MoS and him have told a third party or something-or-other.

yup

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'm sorry, I'm not moving my vote because of a confirmable claim known only to Reck, even if Reck is town.

MoS, would you mind having a third party corroborate that your claim is worth not killing you over? Say.... Hito or Nacho?

Right cuz I'm going to tell my claim to one person who refused to back me up despite having been in on the Amrun plan from the beginning or another person who tried his hardest to get me lynched for the last week. Neither of which I have strong town reads on, by the way.



Do you actually know how to play this game LLD?

[kdowns]

VOTE: Amrun

This is the lynch of the day.

Too lazy to post my case though .-.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Doesn't matter we already have an ironclad case.

[esuriospiritus]

GODDAMNIT KDOW--- oh.



ok then.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm sorry, I'm not moving my vote because of a confirmable claim known only to Reck, even if Reck is town.

MoS, would you mind having a third party corroborate that your claim is worth not killing you over? Say.... Hito or Nacho?

Right cuz I'm going to tell my claim to one person who refused to back me up despite having been in on the Amrun plan from the beginning or another person who tried his hardest to get me lynched for the last week. Neither of which I have strong town reads on, by the way.



Do you actually know how to play this game LLD?

Better than you apparently. Maybe you should read Mafia with the Maiden to see how "Confirmable Claims" end up.

How about BBMolla?

[Mastermind of Sin]

LoL you want me to claim to scum? LMFAO

[xRECKONERx]

Better than you apparently. Maybe you should read Mafia with the Maiden to see how "Confirmable Claims" end up.

Maybe you shouldn't use a

Vi game

to prove your point.

[InflatablePie]

VOTE: Amrun

This is the lynch of the day.

GODDAMMIT KDOWNS

WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG

[Amrun]

OKAY gotta catch up now... My internet was out at home today so I had to go to my grandma's after we got back from the hospital. Blegh. This is my "I'm working on it as we speak" post.

[Espeonage]

Sorry reck. Just adhereing TO THE FIVE LINES RULE.

[Amrun]

Points to Eusirio for getting the most posts out of LLD all game long.

THIS IS WHAT YOU POST? Someone, for the love of all that is holy, put a bullet between AGar's eyes tonight.

Vote: MoS

I guess.

This is a lazy vote - and even though I agree with it - I'd like you to explain why you made it.

Vote: MoS

This is, too.

Espeonage: I have no idea why has a wagon. But he just seems altogether smug which while is how he always is, it happens moreso when he is scum.
Espeonage: And it's day 1
Espeonage: So I'm not going to care too much who we lynch
Espeonage: so yeah

Never mind, daykill him next. You can daykill me after.

Annnnnnnnd the explanation is soooo bad. Not sure if scummy, but bad.

Highlights (aka TLDR):

- Amrun: “I kind of feel like he [Reck] just needs to be lynched right away”
- Amrun was ready to back away from the failed Reck wagon and let me take the fall for it even though it was her idea and she tried to bait me into taking responsibility for it.
- Amrun was just throwing buzzwords around to try and distance herself from me in case I continued to get pressure over voting Reck at her behest.
- She was looking for a “buddy” that she could talk to who thought she was town rather than looking for someone SHE thought was town.
- Amrun tried to stall being convinced that TheTrollie was town because he was only a few votes away from being lynched at the time, and Amrun wanted to position herself to vote him. Then, after saying she was convinced...
- Despite supposedly being convinced TheTrollie was town, Amrun made a deal with MattP to vote him anyway, and when confronted said that her word was more important and couldn’t be broken even thought she "regrets" making the deal. She cared more about not breaking her word to someone than about lynching scum.
- She’s just vote-hopping on the backs of other people’s cases and trying to avoid sticking her neck out for anything.

-K lol there was more to that quote and conversation surrounding it
-Nope.jpg, would have been voting him if not for trying to keep my MattP gambit alive until he fully reacted to it
-Yeah, no.
-Also wrong. I thought you were town - in fact, my read of you-town was fairly strong. I think I also said this in the google hangout, not sure on that one though. I wanted someone to talk to about the game that I thought was town and also thought I was town, at least at the time.
-No - I've said over and over again that MattP put a lot of doubt into my trollie town read, and I was NEVER as strongly convinced about trollie town as you were. And I was still conflicted about Trollie when we talked about me regretting making the deal - which I do, but not because I said Trollie was town.
-Also NOT AT ALL even remotely true. What the fuck?

This wagon is turrible.

Like... turrrrrible.
,
Amrun needs death, asaply.

This just really highlights why AGar is scum. We had a conversation over AIM in which I probed all of his reads. Hey, AGar, got a read on MoS yet?

When I said I had no read of him because he had poor activity, he deflected and said other people were worse. I asked him his reads, and he said "they're in my posts" and he has exactly two posted reads, which are me-scum and reck-town, and he claims he implied pie-town, which I'll grant him but had to actively search for. He did share a few other reads, but not many, and some of THOSE were null reads. Basically, his whole thing was that he sheeped Pie on his read of me, and before that, had no scumreads at all. He does not have many reads, and continues to pretend his activity and engagement is much higher than it actually is (see his quip at LLD I quoted earlier).

The real kicker is that despite the fact that I'm his only real scumread, he did not ever ask me a question related to my alignment. He didn't even ask me my reads. He doesn't care about probing his ONLY scumread. He is scum.

I like how practically the entire Trollie wagon has switched to me and Amrun is just sitting over there agreeing with the suspicion on me and waiting for her chance to hammer....and nobody on my wagon has actually stopped to consider how suspicious this whole thing is, despite numerous people off the wagon pointing it out.

Nice scum claim, Reck. Too bad for you I have a confirmable power role so have fun explaining why you of all people voted me today when you KNOW I'm not bullshitting.

Oh hey maybe I was v/la! I was also all set to vote you at one point, and mattp can confirm this. When he first voted you, we were talking on text and decided to move our votes and transfer the deal to you, but before I could get to a computer, he had already changed his mind and was back on Trollie. I'm basically voting with MattP for the duration of today, which is only in part because of the deal and the rest because of equal parts matt being super obvtown, our reads aligning, and my vote being suspect enough that it's more potent and does more good when mixed with that of Matt's. This would probably crumble if Matt and I ever came to total odds about our reads today, but right now, we're really aligned.

Although he did lie to me which is weird considering the situation when he did.

Please explain this - we haven't talked over the weekend and need to catch up asap. Probably busy tomorrow being at the hospital, but text me.

Why? Pie is town.

Because Pie will just tell us MoS is obvtown no matter what he claims.

Well, MoS just claimed to me.

While his role wouldn't confirm his

alignment

, per se, it would confirm his ability/actions for the night.

I'll let you all decide how to handle that since I don't have a vote, here.

I don't understand why ANYONE unvoted after this. I understand that he has claimed a confirmable role, but that has nothing to do with his alignment, even if it's true. Blegh.

Dating Game Show 2 (2011) -

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Your OMGUS is showing. Put it away.

You clearly don't know what coaching and fencesitting even is.

I'm really tired of this conversation.

Just shoot me and save the walls.

Always On (2012) -

I think I had a townread on MoS before but I can't remember why and I'm feeling vaguely scummish on him as well. He said to me that he thinks Reck's scumslip could have been genuine, but

the way he's gone about pushing it has come across as very fence-sitty and wishy washy.

Bolding mine. WHAT!? Amrun claims to know what

fencesitting

means?

What the fuck? Did you seriously just take a game - IN THAT CONTEXT, of all contexts, oh the irony - and use it to - what, attack me personally? That is the biggest stretch and lowest pot shot... It doesn't even make sense, either. If you're going to try and insult me and be catty, at least do it well.

I'm trying to read up, but this looks like right madness. The truest thing I've seen was this:

You said yourself there's something called information overload.

If this game is 60 pages long and there's literally a 1:5 ratio of content inside:outside the thread, thats way too much information to parse or deal with.

So I've skimmed 15 pages and going through everything is a trainwreck waiting to happen. My predecessor was thoroughly weird.

Please just message me or AIM me and tell me what the frick is going on. I'll make tea and we'll have a nice chat.

OKAY okay all reservations about Trollie GONE

Plum just tripped the Amished tell. She hasn't read much of the game, but attempts to dismiss her predecessor's actions (the only person she mentions at all) by calling him weird.

CONFIRM VOTE: PLUM

I can already see that the MoS lynch is not going to happen, and it probably is in town's best interest to test his claim, even if that rankles me. Plum just scummed up Trollie's slot even more than Trollie did, so I'm less unhappy than I anticipated being reading through the thread and seeing all the votes leaving MoS.


Also, update on Staeg: I had a strong scumread on Bitmap, and still do, but Staeg initially struck me as town (esp. for something he did to Nacho). However, his content since then is really underwhelming and concerning. But he's much further down the fire and brimstone list than, say, MoS, Plum, or AGar.

[Amrun]

I also wanted to say (but forgot to) that my town read on esurio is slightly diminished by her very weak reads list. I still think she's town, but having only one scumread and all the rest based on activity is really poor and I expected something a lot stronger from someone I had such a misguided town read on.

[Mastermind of Sin]

My god Amrun could you get scummier? Like I honestly don't think you said a single thing that read as protown in that ENTIRE wall.

Wait, no, the stuff about AGar was ok. That's about it, though.

[Amrun]

That was the only truly important part of it besides Plum's entrance, so, okay? I felt obligated to respond to your shit-case on me, so I did.