In post 604, Hayker wrote:I have an innocent result on Inte. Sadly not very useful information, at least One of my scum reads is gone. Somone speculated on two mafia godfather as I recall.vgoing to go find that in iso and look into that personvassuming it's not one of our confirmed townies.
When you investigate a godfather does the result come back as innocent?
. once per night you may submit the name of a player to me and i will return either a guilty or innocent result to you.
you win when all threats 2 the town are dead.
He got to terminology right, but innocent is probably the second-most likely thing someone would say next to "is town."
. once per night you may submit the name of a player to me and i will return either a guilty or innocent result to you.
you win when all threats 2 the town are dead.
He got to terminology right, but innocent is probably the second-most likely thing someone would say next to "is town."
Oh I wasn't questioning the terminology; I was wondering if a godfather is investigated if they come back as innocent? I know they can't be investigated but do they come back as no result or as innocent? (I'm not suspecting inte of being the godfather though by the way as I was reading him as town, I was just wondering about the technicalities.)
. any investigation to your alignment will return the result of
innocent
or vanila townie. your partners are <name>, <name> and <name>. you may discuss with your partners in this quicktopic <link> whenever you like. you share a factional kill with your partners: once per night one of you or your partners may submit the name of a player to me that you wish to kill.
you win when you and your partners comprise the majority of the game or nothing can stop the same.
In post 616, kondi2424 wrote:Also, your theory implies that I'm a scum PR who encouraged the massclaim, knowing full well that there was almost definitely a role that could catch a lie, and then claimed VT unnecessarily. You're going to say "well WIFOM and shit," but there's a difference between WIFOM and suicide.
PEdit: That too.
you could easily do that as scum if there's a roleblocker on your team. when it happened you didn't know there would also be a cop.
If Hayker is town and OAFE was scum, Hayker would either be dead or roleblocked.
If they were both scum, Hayker would have been the one to claim roleblocked.
unless the scum don't have a roleblocker but still thought they'd be able to lynch hayker, or they just have a claimed member who would be outed by a rolecop investigation
why is this necessarily true?
i think kondi and oafe are scum together.
soi soi soi
wins: open 69 (townie), mini 592 (sk), mini 617 (mafia rb), open 102 (mafia lover), crackers! (doctor), mini 712 (doctor), mini 715 (townie), mini 770 (inventor), lynch all lurkers (townie), mafia 100 (mason), space mafia (neighborizer)
In post 616, kondi2424 wrote:Also, your theory implies that I'm a scum PR who encouraged the massclaim, knowing full well that there was almost definitely a role that could catch a lie, and then claimed VT unnecessarily. You're going to say "well WIFOM and shit," but there's a difference between WIFOM and suicide.
PEdit: That too.
you could easily do that as scum if there's a roleblocker on your team. when it happened you didn't know there would also be a cop.
There was also a possible Watcher, and I wouldn't put my money on there only being one investigative role.
but a possible watcher is just another reason that scum would want to target not the most obvious target. if there's a watcher its probably targeting the default most powerful claimed role because it can catch either a killer or a roleblocker visiting. you're just giving more reasons to doubt your own narrow interpretation of things.
i simply disagree with your argument of "the cop would naturally be roleblocked" which you keep reverting back to.
soi soi soi
wins: open 69 (townie), mini 592 (sk), mini 617 (mafia rb), open 102 (mafia lover), crackers! (doctor), mini 712 (doctor), mini 715 (townie), mini 770 (inventor), lynch all lurkers (townie), mafia 100 (mason), space mafia (neighborizer)
In post 638, roflcopter wrote:i simply disagree with your argument of "the cop would naturally be roleblocked" which you keep reverting back to.
especially because it is the most self-serving position for you to be taking as someone who, if scum, would be lying about your role and therefore susceptible to the rolecop.
soi soi soi
wins: open 69 (townie), mini 592 (sk), mini 617 (mafia rb), open 102 (mafia lover), crackers! (doctor), mini 712 (doctor), mini 715 (townie), mini 770 (inventor), lynch all lurkers (townie), mafia 100 (mason), space mafia (neighborizer)
but a possible watcher is just another reason that scum would want to target not the most obvious target. if there's a watcher its probably targeting the default most powerful claimed role because it can catch either a killer or a roleblocker visiting. you're just giving more reasons to doubt your own narrow interpretation of things.
You switched the subject. We're talking about why OAFE's reasoning for me being scum isn't true. A Watcher was still possible when I claimed VT, so for me being a scum PR would be incredibly risky.
i simply disagree with your argument of "the cop would naturally be roleblocked" which you keep reverting back to.
Think of it this way. If I'm a scum PR, the Cop can catch me just as usefully as the Rolecop can. However, if I'm a scum Goon, the Cop can catch me while the Rolecop can't. The Cop can do anything the Rolecop can do and then some. There is a very high chance that the Mafia have Goons, so they would rather block the Cop than the Rolecop.
roflcopter wrote:
In post 638, roflcopter wrote:i simply disagree with your argument of "the cop would naturally be roleblocked" which you keep reverting back to.
especially because it is the most self-serving position for you to be taking as someone who, if scum, would be lying about your role and therefore susceptible to the rolecop.
Not necessarily true. If I were scum, I could be a PR or a Goon.
But it's fake. There's no explanation for your PoE and it's something that scum overwhelmingly do to make it look like they're contributing reads.
Eh, to be frank, I'm a little frustrated right now. I was quite certain on Furry yesterday and was wrong, and now I'm waffling on you. Yesterday I was leaning town on you and just thought you were being kondi, but the fake day vig thing has me concerned and rofl raised some really good points. I don't know what to make of OaFe's points against you. My vote on you was mostly a knee jerk to you making that list on top of everything as I have a personal hatred for lists of that type, but town make them too sometimes.
I have a headache. I really want Hayker to answer my question though; he might be the better lynch today.