ny 157 ENDGAME RIP 2 KEVIN COSTNER (secret waterworld flavor


User avatar
Tammy
Tammy
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Tammy
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 15361
Joined: January 13, 2012

Post Post #625 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:10 pm

Post by Tammy »

In post 604, Hayker wrote:I have an innocent result on Inte. Sadly not very useful information, at least One of my scum reads is gone. Somone speculated on two mafia godfather as I recall.vgoing to go find that in iso and look into that personvassuming it's not one of our confirmed townies.


When you investigate a godfather does the result come back as innocent?
User avatar
kondi2424
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6350
Joined: February 12, 2011
Location: Texas

Post Post #626 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:22 pm

Post by kondi2424 »

Speaking of which:

In post 1, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
you are a
cop
. once per night you may submit the name of a player to me and i will return either a guilty or innocent result to you.
you win when all threats 2 the town are dead.


He got to terminology right, but innocent is probably the second-most likely thing someone would say next to "is town."
Show
"
He's saying your an idiot redff
" - theamatuer

"
Also, kondi may not be scum anymore. I'll check with my die.
" - vijay2vasandani

Town: 10-22
Scum: 11-3
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
User avatar
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
mafi ascum
Posts: 7693
Joined: November 26, 2008
Location: dtla

Post Post #627 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:24 pm

Post by kanyeknowsbest »

d2 vetocount 2

kondi (3) - onceandforever, roflcopter, salamence
hayker (2) - natalie, i am innocent, kondi
nobody special (1) - codex

not voting - scooby, nobody special, tammy, inte, hayker, drmyshotgun, kondi

7 to lynch
DEADLINE (expired on 2012-08-19 12:00:00)
Last edited by kanyeknowsbest on Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
add me on snapchat and vine and twitter and instagram : ]
User avatar
scooby
scooby
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
scooby
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1801
Joined: December 27, 2007

Post Post #628 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:26 pm

Post by scooby »

post tomorrow
User avatar
Tammy
Tammy
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Tammy
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 15361
Joined: January 13, 2012

Post Post #629 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:38 pm

Post by Tammy »

In post 626, kondi2424 wrote:Speaking of which:

In post 1, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
you are a
cop
. once per night you may submit the name of a player to me and i will return either a guilty or innocent result to you.
you win when all threats 2 the town are dead.


He got to terminology right, but innocent is probably the second-most likely thing someone would say next to "is town."


Oh I wasn't questioning the terminology; I was wondering if a godfather is investigated if they come back as innocent? I know they can't be investigated but do they come back as no result or as innocent? (I'm not suspecting inte of being the godfather though by the way as I was reading him as town, I was just wondering about the technicalities.)
User avatar
kondi2424
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6350
Joined: February 12, 2011
Location: Texas

Post Post #630 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:41 pm

Post by kondi2424 »

In post 1, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
you are a
mafia godfather
. any investigation to your alignment will return the result of
innocent
or vanila townie. your partners are <name>, <name> and <name>. you may discuss with your partners in this quicktopic <link> whenever you like. you share a factional kill with your partners: once per night one of you or your partners may submit the name of a player to me that you wish to kill.
you win when you and your partners comprise the majority of the game or nothing can stop the same.
Show
"
He's saying your an idiot redff
" - theamatuer

"
Also, kondi may not be scum anymore. I'll check with my die.
" - vijay2vasandani

Town: 10-22
Scum: 11-3
User avatar
Tammy
Tammy
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Tammy
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 15361
Joined: January 13, 2012

Post Post #631 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:47 pm

Post by Tammy »

Right...should probably actually read the rules. Sorry.
User avatar
OnceAndForEver
OnceAndForEver
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
OnceAndForEver
Goon
Goon
Posts: 104
Joined: July 5, 2012

Post Post #632 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:47 pm

Post by OnceAndForEver »

Because I'd been on and off kondi all day and don't have a history of either making particularly good choices or of listening to people?
User avatar
roflcopter
roflcopter
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
roflcopter
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6154
Joined: April 17, 2008

Post Post #633 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:09 pm

Post by roflcopter »

In post 616, kondi2424 wrote:Also, your theory implies that I'm a scum PR who encouraged the massclaim, knowing full well that there was almost definitely a role that could catch a lie, and then claimed VT unnecessarily. You're going to say "well WIFOM and shit," but there's a difference between WIFOM and suicide.

PEdit: That too.

you could easily do that as scum if there's a roleblocker on your team. when it happened you didn't know there would also be a cop.

In post 620, kondi2424 wrote:Hayker getting an investigation result.
If Hayker is town and OAFE was scum, Hayker would either be dead or roleblocked.
If they were both scum, Hayker would have been the one to claim roleblocked.

unless the scum don't have a roleblocker but still thought they'd be able to lynch hayker, or they just have a claimed member who would be outed by a rolecop investigation

why is this necessarily true?


i think kondi and oafe are scum together.
soi soi soi

wins: open 69 (townie), mini 592 (sk), mini 617 (mafia rb), open 102 (mafia lover), crackers! (doctor), mini 712 (doctor), mini 715 (townie), mini 770 (inventor), lynch all lurkers (townie), mafia 100 (mason), space mafia (neighborizer)
User avatar
kondi2424
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6350
Joined: February 12, 2011
Location: Texas

Post Post #634 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:39 pm

Post by kondi2424 »

In post 633, roflcopter wrote:
In post 616, kondi2424 wrote:Also, your theory implies that I'm a scum PR who encouraged the massclaim, knowing full well that there was almost definitely a role that could catch a lie, and then claimed VT unnecessarily. You're going to say "well WIFOM and shit," but there's a difference between WIFOM and suicide.

PEdit: That too.

you could easily do that as scum if there's a roleblocker on your team. when it happened you didn't know there would also be a cop.


There was also a possible Watcher, and I wouldn't put my money on there only being one investigative role.

In post 620, kondi2424 wrote:Hayker getting an investigation result.
If Hayker is town and OAFE was scum, Hayker would either be dead or roleblocked.
If they were both scum, Hayker would have been the one to claim roleblocked.

unless the scum don't have a roleblocker but still thought they'd be able to lynch hayker
But they didn't go for Hayker. The only three who immediately went for Hayker were the two confirmed town and the townslipped IAI.
, or they just have a claimed member who would be outed by a rolecop investigation
They would still roleblock the Cop.

why is this necessarily true?
Because the Cop would naturally be roleblocked...
Show
"
He's saying your an idiot redff
" - theamatuer

"
Also, kondi may not be scum anymore. I'll check with my die.
" - vijay2vasandani

Town: 10-22
Scum: 11-3
User avatar
kondi2424
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6350
Joined: February 12, 2011
Location: Texas

Post Post #635 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:43 pm

Post by kondi2424 »

I had this saved earlier.




IF HAYKER AND OAFE ARE BOTH TOWN


Four scum in these:

scooby
roflcopter
I Am Innocent
Nobody Special
Code_X
Tammy
drmyshotgun

Major townreads taken out:

scooby
Nobody Special
Code_X
Tammy

Scumteam found, GG. If I'm wrong on one of my townreads, it's rofl, then shotgun, then IAI.

IF HAYKER IS SCUM AND OAFE IS TOWN


Three scum in these:

scooby
roflcopter
I Am Innocent
Nobody Special
Code_X
Tammy
inte
drmyshotgun

Major townreads taken out:

scooby
Nobody Special
Code_X
Tammy
inte

3/5 scum in these.

So, I want to lynch in {scooby, NS, Code, Tammy} today.

VOTE: Code
Show
"
He's saying your an idiot redff
" - theamatuer

"
Also, kondi may not be scum anymore. I'll check with my die.
" - vijay2vasandani

Town: 10-22
Scum: 11-3
User avatar
Code_X
Code_X
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Code_X
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1534
Joined: April 21, 2012
Location: England

Post Post #636 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:44 pm

Post by Code_X »

Your wrong on one of your reads.
User avatar
Code_X
Code_X
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Code_X
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1534
Joined: April 21, 2012
Location: England

Post Post #637 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:48 pm

Post by Code_X »

I don't disagree with your other three though.
User avatar
roflcopter
roflcopter
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
roflcopter
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6154
Joined: April 17, 2008

Post Post #638 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:50 pm

Post by roflcopter »

@kondi

but a possible watcher is just another reason that scum would want to target not the most obvious target. if there's a watcher its probably targeting the default most powerful claimed role because it can catch either a killer or a roleblocker visiting. you're just giving more reasons to doubt your own narrow interpretation of things.

i simply disagree with your argument of "the cop would naturally be roleblocked" which you keep reverting back to.
soi soi soi

wins: open 69 (townie), mini 592 (sk), mini 617 (mafia rb), open 102 (mafia lover), crackers! (doctor), mini 712 (doctor), mini 715 (townie), mini 770 (inventor), lynch all lurkers (townie), mafia 100 (mason), space mafia (neighborizer)
User avatar
roflcopter
roflcopter
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
roflcopter
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6154
Joined: April 17, 2008

Post Post #639 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:53 pm

Post by roflcopter »

In post 638, roflcopter wrote:i simply disagree with your argument of "the cop would naturally be roleblocked" which you keep reverting back to.

especially because it is the most self-serving position for you to be taking as someone who, if scum, would be lying about your role and therefore susceptible to the rolecop.
soi soi soi

wins: open 69 (townie), mini 592 (sk), mini 617 (mafia rb), open 102 (mafia lover), crackers! (doctor), mini 712 (doctor), mini 715 (townie), mini 770 (inventor), lynch all lurkers (townie), mafia 100 (mason), space mafia (neighborizer)
User avatar
kondi2424
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6350
Joined: February 12, 2011
Location: Texas

Post Post #640 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:31 pm

Post by kondi2424 »

In post 638, roflcopter wrote:@kondi

but a possible watcher is just another reason that scum would want to target not the most obvious target. if there's a watcher its probably targeting the default most powerful claimed role because it can catch either a killer or a roleblocker visiting. you're just giving more reasons to doubt your own narrow interpretation of things.


You switched the subject. We're talking about why OAFE's reasoning for me being scum isn't true. A Watcher was still possible when I claimed VT, so for me being a scum PR would be incredibly risky.

i simply disagree with your argument of "the cop would naturally be roleblocked" which you keep reverting back to.


Think of it this way. If I'm a scum PR, the Cop can catch me just as usefully as the Rolecop can. However, if I'm a scum Goon, the Cop can catch me while the Rolecop can't. The Cop can do anything the Rolecop can do and then some. There is a very high chance that the Mafia have Goons, so they would rather block the Cop than the Rolecop.

roflcopter wrote:
In post 638, roflcopter wrote:i simply disagree with your argument of "the cop would naturally be roleblocked" which you keep reverting back to.

especially because it is the most self-serving position for you to be taking as someone who, if scum, would be lying about your role and therefore susceptible to the rolecop.


Not necessarily true. If I were scum, I could be a PR or a Goon.
Show
"
He's saying your an idiot redff
" - theamatuer

"
Also, kondi may not be scum anymore. I'll check with my die.
" - vijay2vasandani

Town: 10-22
Scum: 11-3
User avatar
OnceAndForEver
OnceAndForEver
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
OnceAndForEver
Goon
Goon
Posts: 104
Joined: July 5, 2012

Post Post #641 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:19 pm

Post by OnceAndForEver »

kondi is either the roleblocker or the bookie, not sure which.
User avatar
kondi2424
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6350
Joined: February 12, 2011
Location: Texas

Post Post #642 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:25 pm

Post by kondi2424 »

Nope, I'm a "vanila townie"
Show
"
He's saying your an idiot redff
" - theamatuer

"
Also, kondi may not be scum anymore. I'll check with my die.
" - vijay2vasandani

Town: 10-22
Scum: 11-3
User avatar
Tammy
Tammy
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Tammy
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 15361
Joined: January 13, 2012

Post Post #643 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:00 pm

Post by Tammy »

In post 635, kondi2424 wrote:I had this saved earlier.




IF HAYKER AND OAFE ARE BOTH TOWN


Four scum in these:

scooby
roflcopter
I Am Innocent
Nobody Special
Code_X
Tammy
drmyshotgun

Major townreads taken out:

scooby
Nobody Special
Code_X
Tammy

Scumteam found, GG. If I'm wrong on one of my townreads, it's rofl, then shotgun, then IAI.

IF HAYKER IS SCUM AND OAFE IS TOWN


Three scum in these:

scooby
roflcopter
I Am Innocent
Nobody Special
Code_X
Tammy
inte
drmyshotgun

Major townreads taken out:

scooby
Nobody Special
Code_X
Tammy
inte

3/5 scum in these.

So, I want to lynch in {scooby, NS, Code, Tammy} today.

VOTE: Code


Fake scum read list. Scum always post this type of crap to make it look like they have reads and *contributions* VOTE: Kondi
User avatar
Tammy
Tammy
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Tammy
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 15361
Joined: January 13, 2012

Post Post #644 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:03 pm

Post by Tammy »

In post 569, kondi2424 wrote:It's obvious that one of {OAFE, Hayker} is scum. They wouldn't roleblock the suspicious second Rolecop over the Cop.

VOTE: OAFE



Then why do you vote OAFE here instead of Hayker?
User avatar
Tammy
Tammy
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Tammy
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 15361
Joined: January 13, 2012

Post Post #645 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:08 pm

Post by Tammy »

Actually, depending on Hayker's answer to my question, he might be a better vote.
User avatar
kondi2424
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6350
Joined: February 12, 2011
Location: Texas

Post Post #646 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:03 pm

Post by kondi2424 »

LOL. So I'm scum because I made a scumread list based on PoE?

I want to hear this.
Show
"
He's saying your an idiot redff
" - theamatuer

"
Also, kondi may not be scum anymore. I'll check with my die.
" - vijay2vasandani

Town: 10-22
Scum: 11-3
User avatar
Salamence20
Salamence20
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Salamence20
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 10366
Joined: September 7, 2010

Post Post #647 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:22 pm

Post by Salamence20 »

I hate this game.

Hey Kondi, can you do me a favor and kill me tonight if we kill hayker?
User avatar
Tammy
Tammy
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Tammy
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 15361
Joined: January 13, 2012

Post Post #648 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:28 pm

Post by Tammy »

But it's fake. There's no explanation for your PoE and it's something that scum overwhelmingly do to make it look like they're contributing reads.

Eh, to be frank, I'm a little frustrated right now. I was quite certain on Furry yesterday and was wrong, and now I'm waffling on you. Yesterday I was leaning town on you and just thought you were being kondi, but the fake day vig thing has me concerned and rofl raised some really good points. I don't know what to make of OaFe's points against you. My vote on you was mostly a knee jerk to you making that list on top of everything as I have a personal hatred for lists of that type, but town make them too sometimes.

I have a headache. I really want Hayker to answer my question though; he might be the better lynch today.
User avatar
kondi2424
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6350
Joined: February 12, 2011
Location: Texas

Post Post #649 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:24 pm

Post by kondi2424 »

rofl has shit. Other than that, no comment.
Show
"
He's saying your an idiot redff
" - theamatuer

"
Also, kondi may not be scum anymore. I'll check with my die.
" - vijay2vasandani

Town: 10-22
Scum: 11-3

Return to “Completed Large Normal Games”