A Dance with Dragons Mafia: A New Dawn!

[Shadow1psc]

Choose: Hascow

VOTE: MoI

Phone posting, there isn't a proper tag for choosing is there?

[Plums Yo Mamma]

Don't be stupid, you two.

EBWOP: Edd and Tyene, that is.

[Dolorous Edd]

Actually,

Choose: Feysal

I just re-read the first posts. No where does it state we have more than one scum team. It's indicated a bit, but the way you said it makes it seem more than assumption.

[Dolorous Edd]

Sorry, meant to bold that.

CHOOSE: Feysal

[Starbuck]

Do I understand right? You don't want to choose either scum or a policy lynch candidate, but you would rather send a town read in the hopes that said town read vigs scum?

You understand it right in the way that I would rather send a VT to do this then to let it end up in the hands of the scum.

If we choose scum, in the best case said scum misses town and cross kills rival scum, and in the worst case he kills town, resulting in a one for one trade.

Are you stating that you have knowledge of more than one scum team? Because that is how I am reading this.

[Tyene Sand]

Don't be stupid, you two.

EBWOP: Edd and Tyene, that is.

It's far likely that this is multiball due to several factors, but I hate the way it was worded: Feysal isn't one to gloss over something he's just

assuming

, he's likely to explain it thoroughly.

[Salamence20]

Choose: Feysal

Obviously

someone

knows a little too much.

Or is there a post saying this is multiball????

[hasdgfas]

Feysal is third scum. First two are my voted and chosen player. This game is easy.

[BBmolla]

UNCHOOSE:
CHOOSE: Feysal

BAAA

[Eddard Stark]

Family, Duty, Honour - The words of House Tully.

Day 1, Votecount 2

MagnaofIllusion (4) - Starbuck, Benmag, pappums rat, Shadow1psc
Mastermind of Sin (1) - sword_of_omens

Starbuck (6) - Dolorous Edd, Tyene Sand Staeg, Minimum, Plum's Yo Mamma, Feysal

SnowStorm (1) - Plessiezarus
Minimum (3) - MagnaofIllusion, Salamence20, Hasdgfas

Not Voting (13):

Lyanna Stark, Mockingjaye, Petyr Baelish, Hyperion, redFF, Regfan, Bvoigt, Mastermind of Sin, Pandora, BBmolla, SnowStorm, Jal, StefanB

With 28 alive it takes 15 to lynch.

• Deadline
  : 3rd September at 11:59pm Ireland time. (GMT+1)
  
• Countdown to deadline
  : (expired on 2012-09-03 18:59:59)
  
• redFF is V/la until Friday.

CHOOSE LIFE?

MagnaofIllusion (3) - Minimum, sword_of_omens, MagnaofIllusion
Benmage (1) - Benmage
Tyene Sand (1) - Feysal
Dolorous Edd (2) - Hasdgfas, Plum's Yo Mamma

Feysal (4) - Tyene Sand, Dolorous Edd, Salamence20, BBmolla

Hasdgfas (1) - Shadow1psc

Not Choosing (16):

Lyanna Stark, Mockingjaye, Staeg, Petyr Baelish, Hyperion, choPlum, redFF, Regfan, pappums rat, Bvoigt, Mastermind of Sin, Plessiezarus, Pandora, Starbuck, SnowStorm, Jal, StefanB

With 28 alive it takes 15 to 'Choose'.

Point out any mistakes that you see.

[Dolorous Edd]

Point out any mistakes that you see.

Mod, I should be the second CHOOSE on Feysal, not Shadow1psc.

~Fixed

[Feysal]

This is multiball?

How can you be so sure (unless it's made obv somewhere)?

PEdit: That.

Obviously I cannot be certain. That would be part of why I referred to a cross kill as the best case scenario.

But seriously - we have a large theme with 28 players, prequels most of which had two scum teams, and even in the few snippets of flavor we've seen there have been references to multiple threats.

Of course

I expect this to be multiball.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Oooooh, we can vote, too?

Vote: Zoraster

Choose: Zoraster

=P

[SnowStorm]

We'll see.

Choosing should be policy lynch central since I can easily imagine choosing scum and giving that scumbag a strongman vig being worse for the town than taking out 2 townies that would otherwise get mislynched or screw up in some other way.

Ahh you are correct...

FYI the assassin thing is only a D1 event like thing. Nailing scum is still best as it equates to a 1-1 trade off... i.e. always good for town.

But I'm sure a viable PL target will showthemselves eventually to be chosen.

So do you want to treat it like a policy lynch or a regular one?

VOTE: Benmage.

[Tyene Sand]

This is multiball?

How can you be so sure (unless it's made obv somewhere)?

PEdit: That.

Obviously I cannot be certain. That would be part of why I referred to a cross kill as the best case scenario.

But seriously - we have a large theme with 28 players, prequels most of which had two scum teams, and even in the few snippets of flavor we've seen there have been references to multiple threats.

Of course

I expect this to be multiball.

See, this is my problem. I'd expect you to mention this on the

previous

post, not now as an afterthought of something you're just

assuming

. From other people I might have taken it in stride because there

are

plenty of factors pointing to multiball, but from

you

, Mr. Paranoid Waller Of Everything Explained To The Last Inch? You glossed over your best case scenario-build-possibility in a manner that rubs me the wrong way.

[pappums rat]

Unvote

Vote: Salamance20

IGMEOY: Dolorous Edd, Tyene Sand, Starbuck, Cow, BBMolla

Scumslips are highly overrated, I think virtually everyone expects this to be multi-ball, and those jumping on Feysal for this are being dumb at best and are being disingenuous and scummy at worst.

I chose to vote Sally over the rest because it has already been stated that it said nowhere that there are defiantely more than one scumteam and this looked like a sleazy hop onto an easy bandwagon. BBMolla's jump on Feysal wasnt any better.

P. Edit: Tyene Sand's #64 is seriously grasping at straws.

[Pandora]

Why would anyone suspect this to be multiball? The last Game of Thrones mafia wasn't. Scumslips are still stupid and never work, the people most likely to mention the dreaded M-Word first seem to be town not worried about tripping the wire. I consider this a double lynch that gives the second suspect a vengekill.

Vote: Dolorous Edd

Choose: Minimum

PS: Maybe he wanted it secret when he was just alting but I had no intention of being a secret hydra. SORRY QUILLY. He was like hey we never do anything together anymore wanna hydra and I was like okay and he was like how about this game of thrones game and I was like but Tierce isn't in it and then it turned out she was in it so Yay! The end. I will not remember to sign posts but I like to think I'm distinctive right?

[redFF]

Vote: MoI

for loving all the same fandoms that I do.


I'm a little surprised at the quick Chooses right out the gate before you can even get a bead on reads.

Are you also surprised about the quick votes out the gate before you can even get a bead on reads?
Pointless observation to look town and like she's really putting 'thought' into the game, when obviously if she was actually thinking she would realize how much of an inane statement this is.

What's the difference between a choose before you can get any reads and a vote before you can get any reads?

I guess there really isn't one. I just would rather put my Choose vote on someone that could be trusted to follow through on the action rather than give it scum or a policy lynch.

I know we can gain info from the Choose votes, but I still question those who immediately Chose someone because, again, it should not fall into the hands of the scum.

this is something similar to the above, why shouldn't we choose scum? It's a day 1 lynch and if we do get scum with it I'd always take a 1for1 trade, who wouldn't? Another post to look pro-town where if any town-minded thought was put towards it Starbuck would've realised that a 1for1 trade is always worth it.

vote:starbuck

choose:feysal

I think the multi-scum slip is enough to go off at this stage, see how feysal continues to react.

also I'm

V/LA until Friday

, sorry about the timing but I was pre-inned for this and didn't want to miss out, I leave tomorrow so you might get some more posts from me tonight, just posting this in case i forget.

[redFF]

Also could Hydras sign their posts.

[Benmage]

We'll see.

Choosing should be policy lynch central since I can easily imagine choosing scum and giving that scumbag a strongman vig being worse for the town than taking out 2 townies that would otherwise get mislynched or screw up in some other way.

Ahh you are correct...

FYI the assassin thing is only a D1 event like thing. Nailing scum is still best as it equates to a 1-1 trade off... i.e. always good for town.

But I'm sure a viable PL target will showthemselves eventually to be chosen.

So do you want to treat it like a policy lynch or a regular one?

VOTE: Benmage.

Doesn't matter.

[Benmage]

Im a little too drunk to post.... I blame faraday.. i wish mina wasnt scum.

[Starbuck]

I never realized that having a different opinion about how this vengeful kill (good description whoever said that) should be used would make me seem so scummy. I haven't slipped because I'm not scum.

I disagree that this should be used as a second scum lynch and if that makes me scum in everyone's eyes so be it.

Choose: Starbuck

Unvote
Vote: Feysal

[redFF]

@starbuck
If we choose scum we get a guaranteed trade of at least 1 for 1.

If we choose town we get a maybe trade of at most 1 for 1.

Why do you have this different opinion about the choice? Why do you think it's better if we pick town?

[Dolorous Edd]

This is multiball?

How can you be so sure (unless it's made obv somewhere)?

PEdit: That.

Obviously I cannot be certain. That would be part of why I referred to a cross kill as the best case scenario.

Ummm, no. People mention "best case scenarios" when they are certain of their possibility, but not certain of it happening. What you said makes a big assumption, without even giving a mention to the fact that you're assuming.

But seriously - we have a large theme with 28 players, prequels most of which had two scum teams, and even in the few snippets of flavor we've seen there have been references to multiple threats.

Of course

I expect this to be multiball.

You know, this would've been a lot better had it actually been in the post where you mentioned multiball.

But I don't really blame you. I would be stuck on what to say too if I were in your shoes.

Why would anyone suspect this to be multiball? The last Game of Thrones mafia wasn't. Scumslips are still stupid and never work, the people most likely to mention the dreaded M-Word first seem to be town not worried about tripping the wire. I consider this a double lynch that gives the second suspect a vengekill.

Vote: Dolorous Edd

Choose: Minimum

I don't think I follow you at all :/

You said that you can't see how anyone would see this as multiball.

Yet you vote me and Min...

While Feysal is the one who slipped with the multiball...

Though you also mention that scumslips are stupid.

So, which is it?

Also could Hydras sign their posts.

Grrrrr. This can get tedious. But this is Arthur (and everything previous was me too, Alek didn't post yet).

[Dolorous Edd]

I disagree that this should be used as a second scum lynch and if that makes me scum in everyone's eyes so be it.

So what do you think it should be used as?

And why are you choosing yourself?