Micro 18: Train Station in Winter Normal Mafia (Game Over)

[McStab]

This early on, I think a lot of your case is exaggerated and you putting words into his mouth. But you have had past experiences with him and I haven't, so you'd obviously know more about how he works. I do hate all "it was a reaction test lolz!", though, and so there is that against him.

If you're asking me so that you can hammer and then if he flips town (and I'm not necessarily saying he will) say "N told me to!", you can think again. I think I'll sit on this here fence if it's all the same to you.

Where, specifically, did I put words in his mouth or misconstrue his case? If anything, this strikes me as you being potential scum trying to lineup a mislynch on me when (presumably Sala is town if you are scum doing this) Sala flips town.

No, I assure you, I'm not doing this for any justification. I'm legitimately wondering what your opinion on him is. If you think I've misconstrued his case, then, by all means, show me where.

[N]

I was talking about post #35 in particular, but on closer inspection Sala doesn't see it that way and rebutted as though that was actually what he meant. Also, I didn't mean for my last post to sound like an accusation; wouldn't I have voted you if I did?

[gorckat]

Vote Count:

Salamence20: (4)

shos, ChannelDelibird, PMysterious, Malakittens

N: (1)

Salamence20

Not Voting: (4)

McStab, DarkLightA, evilpacman18, N

9 alive, 5 to lynch

Deadline is September 3, 5:00 PM EST: (expired on 2012-09-03 17:00:00)

[McStab]

I was talking about post #35 in particular, but on closer inspection Sala doesn't see it that way and rebutted as though that was actually what he meant. Also, I didn't mean for my last post to sound like an accusation; wouldn't I have voted you if I did?

I know you don't like reaction tests, but I just tried one (I don't frequently, but I reckoned here's as good a chance as any). I think you're town. An outright retraction is unlikely from scum, and you stayed cool under pressure. I didn't really think what I had just said about you, don't worry, I'm not quite THAT paranoid

[Salamence20]

Chances are, this is McTown.

[gorckat]

Nudged DarkLightA and evilpacman 18 to make sure they were aware the game has opened.

Not considering these prods at this time.

[evilpacman18]

Yeah I'm here. Today was super busy. Today will be too. (I haven't slept since yesterday morning so yesterday is still part of today). I'll be in ASAP.

[DarkLightA]

Sorry for not posting earlier.

PLEASE SOMEONE:

Unvote from the wagon! We can't afford to lynch someone prematurely in a micro game. Sala's play has been scummy, but we have to have a longer day. If nothing else, we'll have something to look back on tomorrow.
A wagon moving that fast means that scum are probably a driving factor.

So far these are my notes:
- PMysterious, as McStab noted, is more than likely town. This is easy to see from his meta if anyone wants to take the time to do so.

I am seriously expecting to find scum amongst Sala or

PM

on Day One, if there is scum to be found.

PM isn't scum this game

, I'm like 95% sure. We really shouldn't push him because he falls apart. Let's leave it at that.

I will hold my hammer until A)Sala claims B)Everyone gets a post in. I seriously think Salamence is scum though, just from his behaviour.

McStab, you're going to have to explain this to me. Firstly, what's with the PM contradiction? And secondly,
I do not like your behavior so far in the game, especially your first post where you declared your intent to hammer, and the loose case on Sala that you seem to think is so significant. SERIOUSLY! You posted three comments to quotes and ask people what they think of your CASE...

From gut reaction I think shos looks scummy as well. The rest are null/town.

For now:
VOTE: McStab

[ChannelDelibird]

Er, one sentence follows another, DarkLight. McStab's post makes sense. He's saying that he would be able to tell if Salamence or PM were scum in this game, then says that PM isn't.

Also, Lynch-1 =/= premature lynch. If scum want to quickhammer, let them. We'll all know.

[shos]

UNVOTE: Salamence
but that is just for Darklight's request for time, and for epm to catch up. In need I will return this vote anytime. consider me still on this wagon.
~~~

Darklight, can you explain to me why you say that Sala is scummy and yet ask to unvote? I canunderstand the request(as you can see above), but if you think sala will flip scum, isn't that kinda counterproductive?

OKAY. FOR THE 134908712408619234691263917365908137508247501387510834th time.
PM is not such an amazing player. He's not Mith, Thor, or anyone of the kind. yes. correct. I agree. but seriously - he plays the same in all games. premature claims and bad scummy posts BOTH AS TOWN AND AS SCUM. can anyone please explain to me the difference in his play between scum and town?? just to let me know how the man posts like 3 words and everyone have him autotown except me???

/whine

...what don'y you like in mcstab's play? he's my strongest town read so far, and (except for PM) I 100% share his thoughts.
...Why do you think that the case on Sala is loose?
...what don't you like about my play?

~~~
@CD: your sentence is just wrong imo. I just removed my explanation of the situation because firstly let's let Stab answer it. anyway I don't like this post of yours much.

[ChannelDelibird]

@CD: your sentence is just wrong imo. I just removed my explanation of the situation because firstly let's let Stab answer it. anyway I don't like this post of yours much.

cool story bro

[shos]

Sala, I find it interesting that you haven't changed your vote since RVS post #4. why is that?

[Malakittens]

Shos try figuring out PM's meta for yourself rather than asking for it.

[shos]

I did. I read it quite alot for another game I played with him. please share the difference between his scum and town play.

[Malakittens]

After the game sure.

[Salamence20]

Sala, I find it interesting that you haven't changed your vote since RVS post #4. why is that?

Because I don't have anything to change my vote.

PM has claimed scum before, he helps town as scum, I've seen it. He is town this game and any vote on him is a scum tell

[McStab]

Er, one sentence follows another, DarkLight. McStab's post makes sense. He's saying that he would be able to tell if Salamence or PM were scum in this game, then says that PM isn't.

Also, Lynch-1 =/= premature lynch. If scum want to quickhammer, let them. We'll all know.

For your first and last points, ^this.

For your point about the case being weak, please, feel free to point out where exactly it is weak? I feel as though you're trying to come in and act as though you're trying to heroically save Sala, and implicate others as scummy for being on the wagon. So far, every reason people have had for getting on the wagon and my intent to hammer have been well-justified. If you can come up with flaws in the argument, please, do so.

[McStab]

As for you shos, you're going to have to trust everyone else on this Day One.

[N]

VOTE: Salamence20 - Don't mind me; just restoring the L-1.

I'm thinking there's at least one town between Sala and McStab. I don't think they're both scum, because this is way too early for distancing. Scum would have waited until there was another major lynch-target: they'd be able to slip their argument under the radar without other people picking up on and running with any of their points.

And I'm keeping my eye on Channel. A lot of his posts are restating others' arguments and egging them on. Again, I've never played with him, so this may just be his playing style.

I know you don't like reaction tests, but I just tried one (I don't frequently, but I reckoned here's as good a chance as any).

Fuck you.

[shos]

the obvious town in that couple is McStab. the obvious scum in that couple is Salamence. I am not satisfied by the answers he provided to the case on him. I feel SOO much like hammering but it's page three :\

[Salamence20]

Can I just self hammer for the cause :/

[ChannelDelibird]

Ugh.

UNVOTE: Salamence

Why would you even say that?

I don't know what to think now. Rereading.

[gorckat]

Vote Count:

Salamence20: (3)

PMysterious, Malakittens, N

N: (1)

Salamence20

McStab: (1)

DarkLightA

Not Voting: (4)

McStab, evilpacman18, shos, ChannelDelibird

9 alive, 5 to lynch

Deadline is September 3, 5:00 PM EST: (expired on 2012-09-03 17:00:00)

[Malakittens]

Said that to make you unvote? Sala I'll be amazed if you don't get mod kicked for that if you did it. Against your WC.

[gorckat]

Sala I'll be amazed if you don't get mod kicked for that if you did it. Against your WC.

To preempt any speculation on such, self voting is not against the rules.