MOD – As usual I will be LA starting today at 4:45pm EDT until Monday morning for weekend family duties. Access will exist but be sporadic.
@Anyone questioning MoS’s play
– yes, he always tries to be ‘Useless Eugene’ early in games regardless of alignment. He thinks it helps him seem ‘less threatening’ when he is Town and helps make sure he isn’t an ‘easy’ meta target.@Dol Edd
– Post 388 at the bottom of my post. And the question is for your slot. You are only one slot and Hydra or not one of you needs to explain that to me.I also agree with Feysal in that as someone who doesn’t play at Westros I find all the “Westros meta” talk to be as useful as a wet paper-bag. From what I have gathered Westros plays on a short cycle very similar to the site I played on before coming here. I would not try to cross-meta significantly from that site to here given the large differences it site norms and playstyle differences due to the short timeframes for Days.
@Also
– making the list for PlessieZar reminded me of something I wanted to say for future reference … if someone claims a somewhat non-standard Cop role in this game don’t immediately attack the absurdity of the role. I’m not going to elaborate on why just yet but do keep it in the back of your mind once I’ve prediciabely been Nightkilled early on.--
PlesZar wrote: Could somebody who played in AFFC perhaps make a list of who was scum for me? As far as I can tell, it's not been revealed on the game thread, which currently only goes up to page 60 / the start of day 3 (I assume because of the board crash a while back?).
Scum in AFFC Mafia were –
Zoraster (who was Mod-confirmed Treestump scum from Page 1)
MoI
Shadow1
Zdenek
Pine
Greenknight
Shadow was the only scum to get lynched when I faked a Cop guilty on him.
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Sala wrote: @MoI: Umm, no, not unfinished. I do have a certain game you should be very familiar of where I did use the list.
Why does this matter?
Because I’ve noticed a tendancy for newer / weaker scum players to try to mimic the beheaviors of stronger Town (or Town perceived) players as a manner of buddying. It usually manifests itself in undertaking behaviors they don’t normally due.
As an example – Katsuki in Plum and Andrius’s Lord of the Rings Mafia suddenly started using “Town / Scum lists” (see Posts 121 and 188) out of the blue. He explains at 293 that it is his first time using it (and he ‘liked” it). Yet he’s never done it since. The reason why? He was wanting to subtly mimic stronger players (the DGB / Ellibereth hydra being the best example) also doing it.
I’ll have to review but I don’t recall you ever doing that on a consistent basis Day 1 in games before. It dinged my scumdar since some strong players (Benmage / Regfan) who are using lists here.
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Dol Edd wrote:(Also, everyone should reevaluate/recheck their read on Regfan. I got bad vibes from his ISO. I think because he came into the game strongly, people assumed right away he’s town [me included]. Seems like his posts of summaries/reads on a lot of players strike me of what I tend to do as scum (seeexample). OTOH, I’m not familiar with Regfan-meta too much, so I’m not sure if he tends to do this as town.)
Regfan makes summaries as both Town and scum so it’s completely Null as far as alignment goes for him to use them.
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Feysal wrote: As I was reading Tammy's #423 I was thinking of how a common scum symptom is difficulty in finding suspects.
Do you really think this is that viable a tell in a game you think is Multiball? Scum have every reason to scum-hunt in a Multiball environment. Personally I find it to be a “Not used to the noise” tell in Large games for players with no MS experience.
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