Micro 18: Train Station in Winter Normal Mafia (Game Over)

[Malakittens]

Yeah the whole PM thing is what triggered me and then the role speculation thing.
What got me on CDB was that NK.

[shos]

I'm really not getting it tho, is setup specs realy scummy? I mean, mcstab's assumptions were wrong but generally it made sense, except he was ill-aimed, because the existence of a GF doesn't mean necessarily that it was the one who was investigated.

For example, in the 3p lylo, after having seen the FRAMER flip, wouldn't setup specs ruin my chances?

[Malakittens]

Basically in a way if someone slips up they could say they have a PR instead of being VT.

Like, I almost just to screw you up did this
2 MG
1 Cop
1 Doctor/Tracker
4 VT
1 Watcher

[gorckat]

Just a curious though I just had...in a 3-2 situation, scum self-hammering is not out of the ordinary, I think, because the next day is still LYLO...discussion can be the thing that hurts

town

scum (edited- oops).

Perhaps not allowing that chance is smarter, although it does risk getting called for distancing/avoiding the vote.

Had CDB not self-hammered, shos might have ended up tipping his hand more.


I don't think the setup spec is scummy per se, but it can be a detriment to town.

[callforjudgement]

FWIW, I was a setup reviewer for this game (and couldn't replace in, as a result, but I was following it with interest). gorckat was

definitely

trying to screw with setup spec (you should have seen the original version of the setup), and it achieved that quite well.

It's quite hard to figure out balance on a potentially swingy setup like that; I suspect (especially given the way the game turned out) that it's townsided if people don't end up speculating themselves to death. So well done scum. (I was a little surprised at the ending, actually, expecting a town win; I didn't know who was on which scumteam, and apparently the mod didn't either for a bit :D.)

[gorckat]

Just observed that the game was finished before the original Day 1 deadline.

Not bad.

[N]

I told PM via PM (heh) that it's understandable that he got manipulated by Shos, but he sill shouldn't have quick-hammered. I don't think this is a mistake he'll repeat.

But there might have been other stuff that I missed, because I sot of stopped paying as close attention after I got killed night 1 (which shocked me).

[shos]

quite surprisingly, the N1 kill on you really has been because you looked at CDB.

[Malakittens]

It was. NKs give information out.

[Salamence20]

Meh.

Bad town was bad.

GG.

[ChannelDelibird]

Meh.

Bad town was bad.

GG.

This from the self-hammering townie

[Salamence20]

Meh.

Bad town was bad.

GG.

This from the self-hammering townie

Exactely, I was no better and I apologize.

[shos]

if it makes you feel better, I selfhammered as a townie too once x)

[Hoopla]