NY 154: Return to Boring Town - Game Over


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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:03 am

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MOI

Meh, I could be scum, you are right, I dont have the benefit of being conftown or having a PR.

Given that the scumteam is in ROFL/STAB/INTE, and the belief there are 4 scum, it means ROFL has to die. His flip tells us the roles of Inte/McStab.

The way ROFL likes sheeping stronger players is scummy.

VOTE: ROFL

Sorry MoI, Im not sheeping you today.
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:44 am

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P.S.

1. Hammering scum is not indicative of alignment.
2. Look on how badly he wanted Empking lynched.
3. Look on how he sheeped anyone and pushed for an Arugula lynch.

Those are more important than a supposed scumslip.
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:40 am

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Is this really your explanation? I highly doubt your first answer doesn’t make sense in context of this –


moot and irrelevant, you don't know the context

Aside from the fact that this is a clear Appeal to Fear as already mentioned – why didn’t you seem to have any worry about lynching me? I didn’t see any “Well if MoI flips Town my plan is X,Y, Z” coming from your slot. Why do others need to have back-up plans when you don’t?


no worry because i thought you were scum

nobody asked about my plans, nor would i feel like sharing them

i asked you a question and you ignored it, does that help your case at all? nah

“LOLOLOLOL scum claim! All three of our interactions with flipped scum are 10 million time better than yours. Is McStab your partner since you aren’t even pretending to consider him in your ‘analysis’.


keyword: lynch

i replaced in you dimwit, therefore have no interactions. do you even mafia?

your clear confidence when you are so wrong just supports my position

1. rofl was on the Presen-whothefuckcares wagon for ZERO stated reason. obviously he was a scumfuck, but he made no effort to actually contribute
2. sala's d1 play all around sucks, yet is the least scummy out of you 3.
3. your verbose manner is similar to Heroes of Comedy, yet it was unwarranted, therefore sucks shit

Rofl is scum. Yet you are asking him why he believes my claim. The same claim you believed when you unvoted my horribly bad wagon and immediately jumped on Sala.

Unless you think we are both scum (and if that's the case why no mention of us as partners?) you have no reason to ask your scum candidate (who you are voting) why he believes a claim you believe.


i have every reason to ask. in this game where i've had little presence, every detail counts when making the decision

1. his answer is important
2. your reaction to his answer is important
3. your reaction to my question is important

seriously, do you even mafia?
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:52 am

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MoI (Redux):

Lol, inte is really retarded.

Give me good reasons ROFL is town, because he isn't.

Also you guys should definately go with my plan. Its 100% foolproof.

ROFL is probably the RB who got JK'd while trying to block the cop. GG
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:23 pm

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Vote Count


Salamence20 - 2( McStab, ToonFighter)
MagnaOfIllusion -1 (Velazanth)
roflcopter - 2(inte, Salamence20)
inte - 2(MagnaOfIllusion, roflcopter)

Not Voting - 1 (VisceraEyes )
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:41 pm

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I won't claim. I prefer to see inte lynched.
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:42 pm

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In post 830, Toon Fighter wrote:I won't claim. I prefer to see inte lynched.


Hey, how is being conftown?

Also why are you voting me then?
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:47 pm

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between rofl and inte I prefer inte. But you are still my Nº1 lynch
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:35 pm

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First let me handle Inte’s latest round of flailing –

inte wrote: moot and irrelevant, you don't know the context


No. You just got exposed contradicting yourself. You can’t just say “ You don’t know the context” and expect anyone to not see it as you pretending you didn’t get caught red-handed.

inte wrote: no worry because i thought you were scum


And I think you are scum. So why the question from you then?

inte wrote:keyword: lynch

i replaced in you dimwit, therefore have no interactions. do you even mafia?


Is this the best you can do? Throwing random insults? You do understand that replacing a slot means you inherit the play (in this case the complete ignoring of the righteous wagon on Presc) of your predecessor, right?

I’ll just for the sake of argument assume you understand and are just caught scum looking for anything to discredit the case on them.

inte wrote:1. rofl was on the Presen-whothefuckcares wagon for ZERO stated reason. obviously he was a scumfuck, but he made no effort to actually contribute
2. sala's d1 play all around sucks, yet is the least scummy out of you 3.
3. your verbose manner is similar to Heroes of Comedy, yet it was unwarranted, therefore sucks shit


This shows how desperate you are to not be lynched.

1. If Prescing was so obv-scum why did your slot ignore him? Ooops ... forgot about that little snag, huh?
2. You’ve admitted you have made little effort to contribute until you suddenly are under fire. Yet you ding ROFL for ‘not contributing’? Scummy Cognitive Dissonance.
3. You claim that Sala’s play sucked with no specifics. Quite weak.
4. You can’t even come up with an actual reason my interaction with Prescing is scummy and have to resort to a playstyle attack. Pathetic.

inte wrote:i have every reason to ask. in this game where i've had little presence, every detail counts when making the decision

1. his answer is important
2. your reaction to his answer is important
3. your reaction to my question is important


Lulz. Generic ‘its important’. Well you have all those reactions. Now explain why they are important and how they reveal scum. I’ll be waiting for whatever drivel you can slap together in pretending you actually were scum-hunting.

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Sala wrote: Meh, I could be scum, you are right, I dont have the benefit of being conftown or having a PR.

Given that the scumteam is in ROFL/STAB/INTE, and the belief there are 4 scum, it means ROFL has to die. His flip tells us the roles of Inte/McStab.

The way ROFL likes sheeping stronger players is scummy.


Nothing here tells me why ROFL is a better lynch than Inte from your perspective. Frankly based on your theory you could lynch any of the three and get ‘information’ on the roles of the other two.
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:40 pm

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Again, why is ROFL town?
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:23 pm

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In post 834, Salamence20 wrote:Again, why is ROFL town?


Why is he scum? Seriously I get tired of this. No way in hell does scum quickhammer their fucking Godfather before said Godfather even had a chance to fake-claim and out the Cop. If you don't buy that I don't know what else to tell you Sala. Rofl's play may be terrible to you but he's not scum.
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:06 pm

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In post 835, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 834, Salamence20 wrote:Again, why is ROFL town?


Why is he scum? Seriously I get tired of this. No way in hell does scum quickhammer their fucking Godfather before said Godfather even had a chance to fake-claim and out the Cop. If you don't buy that I don't know what else to tell you Sala. Rofl's play may be terrible to you but he's not scum.


I didn't know quickhammering scum is a town-tell. Cool.

It doesn't raise any flags when he just happens to KNOW he will flip scum.
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:08 pm

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In post 73, roflcopter wrote:
unvote, vote: prescending


new world record for fastest scum lynch


Psychic. Psychic I tell you.
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:09 pm

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In post 833, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
This shows how desperate you are to not be lynched.

1. If Prescing was so obv-scum why did your slot ignore him? Ooops ... forgot about that little snag, huh?
2. You’ve admitted you have made little effort to contribute until you suddenly are under fire. Yet you ding ROFL for ‘not contributing’? Scummy Cognitive Dissonance.
3. You claim that Sala’s play sucked with no specifics. Quite weak.
4. You can’t even come up with an actual reason my interaction with Prescing is scummy and have to resort to a playstyle attack. Pathetic.


only one part needs addressing, the rest is a steaming pile of shit

you may actually be scum for the bile you're throwing at my way

1. i do not fucking inherent his play. fuck you sideways. there are multiple reason he may of not been able to post or read much.
2. chainsaw tu quoque fallacy
3. ok
4. it was a shit interaction. don't hide behind the playstyle barrier. your response was unnecessary and verbose with a bunch of fluff supporting it

pedit: hammered the nail. scum are expendable as long as one remains.
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:12 pm

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i say lynch rofl today (or tomorrow who gives a fuck we're gonna win) and then when he flips scum lynch MoI
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:17 pm

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Well, I'm with Inte on this one.

However, I'm not up for lynching a bulletproof, the main case against MoI in my head is that very very very very shitty vote on McQueen, it was almost like voting for a confirmed townie or cop.
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:30 pm

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well mcqueen did basically become conf. town from the Prescending lynch

dunno why he didn't do shit though
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:34 pm

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Not good enough reason to vote him like MoI did. It's basically the reason I'm not hopping with him.

He does claim werid roles as scum/3rdP though (ie: Beloved queen as SK)
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:35 pm

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But he is probtown, but horribly misguided.
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:36 pm

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McStab, come over here quickly and claim (not to mention vote ROFL)
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:47 pm

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god damnit you really want to make things harder
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:26 pm

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Not changing my vote till I get a better reread and can make a big post. Im vt.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:56 am

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Sala wrote:I didn't know quickhammering scum is a town-tell. Cool.

It doesn't raise any flags when he just happens to KNOW he will flip scum.


In the way it occurred this game? Yes, it is. Had it been a Goon that would be a different scenario. This was a Godfather in a game with a Cop. And given you and half a dozen other players have called him scum for hammering like that the minimal gain is not worth the risk IMO.

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– so you are going on record that you will not lynch inte? Want to see confirmation from you of this.

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inte wrote: only one part needs addressing, the rest is a steaming pile of shit


Can’t actually argue against my points so just throw insults and mud. Gotcha.

inte wrote:1. i do not fucking inherent his play. fuck you sideways. there are multiple reason he may of not been able to post or read much.


No, you do. If you don’t understand that go back to Road to Rome.

Which argument is it? Was Prescing obv-scum or not?

inte wrote:2. chainsaw tu quoque fallacy


Pro-tip … throwing a bunch of Wiki buzzwords out as a response isn’t a defense it is flailing.

Tu quoque is brought up often here on MS as a way to say “Well me acting in the exact same way that I accuse another of being scummy for isn’t a contradiction … tu quoque tu quoque” and frankly it is bullshit 99% of the time. This isn’t a legal system.

As for calling my suspicion of you a chainsaw that’s pretty ludicrous as I’ve been calling you scum for awhile and attacking your scummy posts is part of scum-hunting.

inte wrote:4. it was a shit interaction. don't hide behind the playstyle barrier. your response was unnecessary and verbose with a bunch of fluff supporting it


Nope. You can’t do anything to show how it was a scummy interaction and instead once again just throw mud (calling it shit without showing why) and pretend that I’m hiding behind a ‘playstyle’ when that’s not the case.

inte wrote: i say lynch rofl today (or tomorrow who gives a fuck we're gonna win) and then when he flips scum lynch MoI


I say we lynch you today, see you flip scum, and then watch your partner (either McStab who you completely ignore or Sala who you accuse of buddying softly but show no real interest in as scum) squirm as they are doomed via PoE.
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:10 am

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MoI:

Im not confirming shit. Inte could might as well be scum, but today ROFL needs to die.

Trust me for a moment.

The scumteam is

(ROFL) + (INTE/MCSTAB) or maybe both.

If you believe there is 4 scum and you find me as:

Town: lynch rofl and the game is decided unless you are in fact scum.

Scum: carry on and lynch Inte, but expect no help from me. If he flips scum, go ahead and deal with me, but then you are probably in lylo with ROFL and McStab, and there would be no way to figure who is scum.

Again, if you trust me...

Mcstab/Inte are both scum if ROFL is town.
If ROFL is scum, Ill join you on the inte wagon since we have a possible mislynch to kill both of them.
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:13 am

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We only lose if:

MoI is scum bp.
VE is a SK.
I am a death Miller.

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