It's in a spoiler tag because it's by far the longest post in the thread.
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Spoiler:
Maestro's posts at the top of page 2 are giving me some weird vibes. Nothing but fluff. Especially this one.
frog's #35: Eh? Why does Fancy-Pant's vote brush you the wrong way? I found it pure null.
This entire conversation about RVS is ridiculous. I'm getting a lot of null vibes from this entire thing.
More fluff on page 3. Getting more of a bad vibe on Maestro since he's spearheading most of it.
Speaking of which, Maestro: #50: What was the point of this post, exactly? From the way the conversation went, you basically removed any point of this original post. Fake scumhunting.
frog's #58: You're implying that his half-serious RVS vote is scummy, but I really don't see it. Color me very unconvinced by this reasoning.
N's #65: That policy lynch section of his post is very bad. It's not only a huge stretch, but it's fake scumhunting.
Maestro's #68: Placing suspicion on Fancy-Pants while trying to seem like he's not placing suspicion on him. I'm starting to get a solid read on Maestro.
frog's #72: That's a weird stance to take in a game that relies on town getting the other town to vote who they think is scummy.
Pieceofpecanpie's post at the end of page 3 has a point, but I don't think that makes NumberQ particularly scummy.
ShadedMelee's #78: Don't like this post either. I'll wait to see what he comes out with next, but I'm getting a scummy vibe here.
frog jumps on NumberQ for what Pecanpie pointed out. Not liking how he suddenly dropped Fancy-Pants for this. Looks opportunistic to me.
ShadedMelee's #87: So who's scum?
pieceofpecanpie's #88: Same question here. Who's scum? You have your vote on Maestro, but you're going on about NumberQ and placing suspicion on him without backing it up with your vote. Why is Maestro a better choice than NumberQ right now?
I don't understand the point of #93-#97.
I agree with this. The entire NumberQ confusion topic is awful.
pieceofpecanpie's #99: Based on how you worded this post, I'm finding it hard to believe it's genuine as you're still holding your vote on Maestro.
pieceofpecanpie's #100: I really don't like this post. I'm starting to get the feeling this guy is scum who is waiting to see where the waters roll before placing a vote.
N's #102: Oh dear god, not
pieceofpecanpie's #108: Eh. I reread the situation behind AI's vote and unvote because of this post. I do agree that AI doesn't appear town, but for a completely different reason. His point on AI not unvoting because he was being questioned is terrible. My predecesor cited the questioning as a reason, so him stating it wasn't is null. The second half is not much better. That vote would have had more effect if you had put it down at #100.
That said, the timing of both AI's vote and unvote is pretty bad, and the lack of any scumhunting is bad as well.
Speaking of which. AI: Who's scum?
Agent_Ireland's #110: Hm. Getting dejavu here... Who's scum?
Agent_Ireland's #120: Huge alarm bells. Only scum are worried about how their votes will be seen as. Town are more interested in scumhunting. You are not scumhunting, and you are worried about how your votes will be seen as.
Bad vibes from N's response. Actually, looking at his ISO from here, he's relying mostly on meta, most of his posts are irrelevant to anything, and he's barely scumhunting.
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Agent_Ireland's #125: ...thanks. Who's scum?
#135 is scum. AI needs rope.
N's #145: ...What is this? Bad vibes.
Oh dear god this conversation between AI and N needs to end. I'm not liking anything from either side of this.
Psyche's entrance case looks town to me. I'm starting to feel better about the slot.
Fancy-Pant's #159: I seriously don't understand why there's so much talk about pressuring AI, yet everyone's being this careful about it.
Psyche said it best. This unvoting business is doing nobody any favors. If you're going to unvote, at least do some scumhunting while you do so. Talking about how someone's scummy yet unvoting them in the same post is simply bad.
More fluff. #170 by Fancy-Pants is giving me bad vibes. More pushing of suspicion on the easy target.
I'm getting conflicting vibes by Agent_Ireland now. I don't think he should be out of the woods yet, but there's other people we should be targetting right now. The information from keeping pressure on AI is minimal at best now.
AI's self vote: This guy's town. He has to be gone before lylo, but town.
Every time someone after this point makes a post that is only about Agent_Ireland, they get scumpoints. Period.
Psyche's #183: Huh? I don't understand the reasoning by the second line. I don't believe this is true even in normal games, but it looks like a big stretch for a
FOS frog for post#191. You should scumhunt instead of using ad hominem attack. I'm not counting the FoS since it's both weak and not followed with a vote.
frog's #198: More fake scumhunting.
N's #207: Emotional outburst and no scumhunting. Your second point is valid, but you're still doing nothing productive.
#209: You're town, but you seriously need to start doing something. This explanation is terrible and constantly repeating it is a needless distraction.
I'm not 100% convinced by Klick's JK-as-cop reasoning. That only works assuming a kill. I also disagree that the JK claims. He should only ever claim if one of his confirmed innocents are about to die. Nothing is confirmed in any circumstance on nights there isn't a kill.
Fancy-Pants' #231: Number 1 -- YES. Votes are the town's entire tool for catching scum during the day. Not using it when you have scumreads is an extreme waste.
frog's #236: Actually, he technically did claim a scum role.
These cases are frustrating. N's case against frog in #237 has some merit, but the way he describes it is awful.
frog's reasoning for his suspicion of N's #169 is really bad. That logic falls apart when you factor in that he was one of the two votes, and the situation was greatly different between the two posts.
frog is most likely scum here.
frog's #35: Eh? Why does Fancy-Pant's vote brush you the wrong way? I found it pure null.
This entire conversation about RVS is ridiculous. I'm getting a lot of null vibes from this entire thing.
More fluff on page 3. Getting more of a bad vibe on Maestro since he's spearheading most of it.
Speaking of which, Maestro: #50: What was the point of this post, exactly? From the way the conversation went, you basically removed any point of this original post. Fake scumhunting.
frog's #58: You're implying that his half-serious RVS vote is scummy, but I really don't see it. Color me very unconvinced by this reasoning.
N's #65: That policy lynch section of his post is very bad. It's not only a huge stretch, but it's fake scumhunting.
Maestro's #68: Placing suspicion on Fancy-Pants while trying to seem like he's not placing suspicion on him. I'm starting to get a solid read on Maestro.
frog's #72: That's a weird stance to take in a game that relies on town getting the other town to vote who they think is scummy.
Pieceofpecanpie's post at the end of page 3 has a point, but I don't think that makes NumberQ particularly scummy.
ShadedMelee's #78: Don't like this post either. I'll wait to see what he comes out with next, but I'm getting a scummy vibe here.
frog jumps on NumberQ for what Pecanpie pointed out. Not liking how he suddenly dropped Fancy-Pants for this. Looks opportunistic to me.
ShadedMelee's #87: So who's scum?
pieceofpecanpie's #88: Same question here. Who's scum? You have your vote on Maestro, but you're going on about NumberQ and placing suspicion on him without backing it up with your vote. Why is Maestro a better choice than NumberQ right now?
I don't understand the point of #93-#97.
I agree with this. The entire NumberQ confusion topic is awful.
pieceofpecanpie's #99: Based on how you worded this post, I'm finding it hard to believe it's genuine as you're still holding your vote on Maestro.
pieceofpecanpie's #100: I really don't like this post. I'm starting to get the feeling this guy is scum who is waiting to see where the waters roll before placing a vote.
N's #102: Oh dear god, not
another
null tangent.pieceofpecanpie's #108: Eh. I reread the situation behind AI's vote and unvote because of this post. I do agree that AI doesn't appear town, but for a completely different reason. His point on AI not unvoting because he was being questioned is terrible. My predecesor cited the questioning as a reason, so him stating it wasn't is null. The second half is not much better. That vote would have had more effect if you had put it down at #100.
That said, the timing of both AI's vote and unvote is pretty bad, and the lack of any scumhunting is bad as well.
Speaking of which. AI: Who's scum?
Agent_Ireland's #110: Hm. Getting dejavu here... Who's scum?
Agent_Ireland's #120: Huge alarm bells. Only scum are worried about how their votes will be seen as. Town are more interested in scumhunting. You are not scumhunting, and you are worried about how your votes will be seen as.
Bad vibes from N's response. Actually, looking at his ISO from here, he's relying mostly on meta, most of his posts are irrelevant to anything, and he's barely scumhunting.
Is
anyone
scumhunting?Agent_Ireland's #125: ...thanks. Who's scum?
#135 is scum. AI needs rope.
N's #145: ...What is this? Bad vibes.
Oh dear god this conversation between AI and N needs to end. I'm not liking anything from either side of this.
Psyche's entrance case looks town to me. I'm starting to feel better about the slot.
Fancy-Pant's #159: I seriously don't understand why there's so much talk about pressuring AI, yet everyone's being this careful about it.
Psyche said it best. This unvoting business is doing nobody any favors. If you're going to unvote, at least do some scumhunting while you do so. Talking about how someone's scummy yet unvoting them in the same post is simply bad.
More fluff. #170 by Fancy-Pants is giving me bad vibes. More pushing of suspicion on the easy target.
I'm getting conflicting vibes by Agent_Ireland now. I don't think he should be out of the woods yet, but there's other people we should be targetting right now. The information from keeping pressure on AI is minimal at best now.
AI's self vote: This guy's town. He has to be gone before lylo, but town.
Every time someone after this point makes a post that is only about Agent_Ireland, they get scumpoints. Period.
Psyche's #183: Huh? I don't understand the reasoning by the second line. I don't believe this is true even in normal games, but it looks like a big stretch for a
back-up
role.FOS frog for post#191. You should scumhunt instead of using ad hominem attack. I'm not counting the FoS since it's both weak and not followed with a vote.
frog's #198: More fake scumhunting.
N's #207: Emotional outburst and no scumhunting. Your second point is valid, but you're still doing nothing productive.
#209: You're town, but you seriously need to start doing something. This explanation is terrible and constantly repeating it is a needless distraction.
I'm not 100% convinced by Klick's JK-as-cop reasoning. That only works assuming a kill. I also disagree that the JK claims. He should only ever claim if one of his confirmed innocents are about to die. Nothing is confirmed in any circumstance on nights there isn't a kill.
Fancy-Pants' #231: Number 1 -- YES. Votes are the town's entire tool for catching scum during the day. Not using it when you have scumreads is an extreme waste.
frog's #236: Actually, he technically did claim a scum role.
These cases are frustrating. N's case against frog in #237 has some merit, but the way he describes it is awful.
frog's reasoning for his suspicion of N's #169 is really bad. That logic falls apart when you factor in that he was one of the two votes, and the situation was greatly different between the two posts.
frog is most likely scum here.
I'll have to look at the last two pages again. Once I do that, I'll put up my consolidated reads and possibly a vote.
I like this avatar, though for simplicity's sake I'll change it.