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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:21 am

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Pretty sure at most one out of any group of four is scum so that doesn't seem particularly meaningful.

Rhinox, it's mostly the claim although I'm also assuming that I would in fact see some signs pointing to it if you were scum.
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:14 am

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In post 1274, Quagmire wrote:
In post 1266, Bella wrote:I'm still waiting for Glork to show up and make the case against Quagmire if he wants us to seriously think he's not scum.


Whether or not you think us gunsmiths are infallible or not (and you shouldn't), don't you think we have time to sit and wait on us before making some kind of decision? There are three claimed power roles (four if you include Rhinox) and I'm willing to bet at most one of those four is scum. So, we could sit on this info and wait. IMO the only one of these four who have any threat at being killed overnight soon is AGar, who noone seems to think is scum.


This is irrelevent.

Glork still needs to post his case.
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:09 am

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Hey guys, guess what I found.

scooby is a scum roleblocker, and the scum tried to block Psyche N1.
The catch is that Staeg got lucky and hit the block with his own roleblock--which apparently, following OGML's action resolution, allowed Psyche's cop action to go through.

Look:
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There's literally no way
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actually investigated me last night
(unless OGML fucked up Normal Game guidelines--but he's a good mod, so)
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He's either lying scum or lying town, which I won't really be able to go back and check until my internet's fixed on Wednesday morning or I find a Starbucks.

(given iam's play, and then his own, I'm inclined to believe the latter)
There is no way singer would say the bolded with that specific turn of phrase unless the scum had messed with Psyche's role in some manner on N1. singer's reaction is not one of "I was Framed/the cop is fakeclaiming scum"; it's one of "the cop cannot possibly have this result", which is scumtalk for "I have no idea how this happened". She actually believed Psyche was lying ad didn't jump on him--that's scum thinking that the roleblocked cop is gambiting. Staeg only revealed his block target thirty posts later:
In post 665, Staeg wrote:Oh, that - I rb'd scooby
[N1]
.


They knew they needed to take out Primate first, which meant Psyche would be around on D2 with one result--which meant they had to intervene and make sure he had no result to give via a well-placed roleblock. Staeg blocked a scum roleblocker and gave us that guilty on singer.

Raise a glass to Stag and Psyche and let's lynch this.
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:12 am

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Unofficial Vote Count:
6 to lynch

Rhinox: 4 (scooby, redFF, Glork, AGar)
redFF: 1 (Quagmire)
Quagmire: 1 (Cogito Ergo Sum)
Glork: 1 (Bella)
scooby: 1 (Tierce)

Not Voting: 2 (Rhinox, Knight of Cydonia)

Current Deadline:
Friday, October 5th, 10 PM EST


Come on. You can get out of your pit of inactivity to lynch scum for the fourth time, right? ^_^
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:17 am

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Vote: scooby

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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:48 am

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That's a really tinfoil-hat case. I don't see where that phrase nips scooby as scum. It could just be awkwardly worded.

I'm also not comfortable with how hard Michel defended scooby when he was near lynch. Michel's a smarter player than to defend him, if scooby were scum along with him.
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:49 am

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I guess I'd rather lynch scooby than Rhinox. Since noone's going for redFF,
unvote, vote scooby
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:13 am

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singer's words don't nip
scooby
from the phrase itself. But they mean that the scum did something to Psyche on N1. We've massclaimed--there's only one claimed (and, in this case, confirmed via flip) town role that could have prevented "Psyche does not have a result on N1"--and that is a roleblock on whatever the scum planned to unleash on Psyche. This means that whoever Staeg blocked N1 is the scum that was tampering with Psyche--and that means scooby.

I called scooby a scum roleblocker, but I guess he could also be a Tailor (targeting singer in that case; the end result is the same) or some weird non-Normal business, since we have space for one more via Rhinox's claim. The important thing is that
scooby, a claimed VT, was messing with singer's N1 action and Staeg prevented it
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:21 am

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I just don't think we can make that inductive leap from singer's words to, "we know someone got blocked." singer could have just been desperate to create some tinfoil-hat theory to get the guilty result off her back.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:22 am

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I should say, I don't think we can conclusively say scooby's a scum RB. But, it's a better case than anything else we have, and y'all know my opinions on lynching VT poolers.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:18 am

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Unvote, vote: scooby
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:22 am

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Vote Count:
6 to lynch

Rhinox: 4 (scooby, redFF, Glork, AGar)
scooby: 4 (Tierce, Knight of Cydonia, Quagmire, Cogito Ergo Sum)
Glork: 1 (Bella)

Not Voting: 1 (Rhinox)

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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:33 am

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I'm saving your ass
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lynching scum here, Rhinox. Come on over. You too, Izzy Child.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:55 am

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It makes sense, I always thought there was something off about that singer comment. At the time I assumed it had something to do with her unclaimed role and forgot about it after she flipped. Makes me feel better about being the target of scoobi's relentless attacking knowing it was definitely coming from scum.

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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:21 am

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Rhinox, you could have said, "yes, I would love to save my ass today," instead of the flaky "I knew it all along" stuff
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:52 am

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That's actually a pretty solid catch from Tierce, and I'm inclined to agree. Rhinox is still scum I agree with Quagmire about that last post. He's at L-1 right now and I'll hammer later tonight if nobody has any objections.
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:00 pm

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So you're proposing scooby is scum AND is bussing his last buddy when there are so many town players to go about, redFF?

Get real. If scooby is scum, Rhinox is really obvtown.
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:04 pm

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How in HELL does that comment make me scum? Seriously, am i going to get lynched for a comment that WAS MADE BY CAUGHT SCUM ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED?

Scum rarely communicate in thread, and THEY NEVER DO specially when they are about to be lynched. What is the point? Better to drop some WIFOM or paranoia, or wahtever the fuck else, but how in hell can you assume SCUMTALK of so. Making a conclusion based on a that comment is RETARDED AS FUCK.

I just want to tell you that yeah, yestreday i bussed a strng player like Sableheart and I pushed his lynch for, when there were like a million other options.

Fuck this, I am not going to get lynched.
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:04 pm

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In post 1291, Tierce wrote:So you're proposing scooby is scum AND is bussing his last buddy when there are so many town players to go about, redFF?

Get real. If scooby is scum, Rhinox is really obvtown.

Why is Rhinox obvtown if I am scum?
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:06 pm

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In post 1291, Tierce wrote:So you're proposing scooby is scum AND is bussing
his last buddy
when there are so many town players to go about, redFF?

Get real. If scooby is scum, Rhinox is really obvtown.

WAIT, LAST BUDDY?

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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:49 am

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unvote,
VOTE: Scooby
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:18 am

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In post 1294, scooby wrote:
In post 1291, Tierce wrote:So you're proposing scooby is scum AND is bussing
his last buddy
when there are so many town players to go about, redFF?

Get real. If scooby is scum, Rhinox is really obvtown.

WAIT, LAST BUDDY?

VOTE: TIERCE


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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:36 am

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Yo scooby. Real talk. The case on you isn't the best. In fact, it's probably bad. But, you're in the VT pool, the deadline's coming up, and everyone (except Tierce) is too lazy/busy to go through and analyze voting patterns over the first few days. Hope we're still bros after you die today.

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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:59 am

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Hey look, Scooby got mislynched. That's cool.


Honestly, my apathy for mafia in general right now is at an all-time low. I might try to cobble together a case against Quagmire overnight. In the meantime, carry on.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:51 am

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Hey look, Glork is complaining right after someone got hammered. That's cool.

I understand apathy, Glork. But frankly, you can't complain after it was clear that people were waiting on your Quagmire case for days and got nothing for their trouble. People did what you wanted and massclaimed D1. We have three dead scum. I think scooby is going to flip scum. If the game isn't over by now, try to put a bit more effort into it, please?

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