In post 2546, Plums Yo Mamma wrote:I have called your case stupid, yes. You're essentially saying that Starbuck got an isolated Aegon goon PM, and decided to get herself chosen so she could shoot someone town? The "woe is me" attitude you refer to is a bit off-base; she never says "I'm a liability, choose me", she says "I'm a VT, choose me". And sure, people have definitely caught scum and page 3. But do they update their case when it is page 102? Usually, yes.
If this is what you think of my case, you got it exactly wrong.
Starbuck started her game by commenting she was surprised by the early choices. I don't think she had any sort of plan involving self sacrifice at this point, and she was surprised by the resulting backlash. She was voted in quick succession by Dredd, Tierce, Staeg and Minimum. In response to this, Starbuck gave the weak excuse that people should treat choices with more care than random votes. This made no sense, as Minimum was quick to point out, and so Starbuck covered her weak excuse with an even weaker excuse, implying she would rather choose town that could be trusted to follow through on the action. This in turn caught my attention. I expect Starbuck thought she could not backtrack from her previous statement, and so she gave yet another excuse, and claimed she had meant choosing vanilla town for the job. Again her response only provoked more questions, as she was asked how she expected to identify vanilla town to choose.
By this point Starbuck had dug herself into a hole. Every time she had tried to explain she had only made her situation worse. I believe this is when she came up with the idea of self sacrifice, and chose herself. I expect she thought it would make her appear town, and it did to many people. And if it did not, at least she could take a strong town read down with her. Later she claimed that by choosing vanilla town she had meant herself to begin with, and that she did it because she knew she was lynch fodder. There you have Starbuck explicitly calling herself a liability. I also believe she was lying when she said she had meant herself all along. Instead I see her slipping worse and worse, until the only thing she could think of doing was choosing herself.
As for not updating my case, exactly what is there to update? As I have pointed out, since day one Starbuck and Scumhunter have done nothing to make me reverse my scum read on them. Mostly because they have done nothing. Sure I could spin a wild tale of them teaming up with Frosty the Snowman to cause a nuclear winter, but that would have no basis on reality. I have not updated my case because nothing has changed. DCLXVI flipped, and I have acknowledged that it makes Starbuck unlikely to be Stannis aligned, while bvoigt flipping Aegon aligned after defending her rules out nothing.
Also, at the time I started to write my last post, there was only one vote on me. I did not see the other two until after posting. Yes, it took me three hours to check on everything I wanted to and write that.
In post 2549, Lyanna Stark wrote:Not sure what Feysal is talking about. Maybe he prods us differently, but when I got prodded it was just a generic prod.
It was only the first time I was prodded for me too. The rest of my prods have been devoid of any flavor.