A Dance with Dragons Mafia: A New Dawn!

[kortul]

But that someone else was his predecessor? Do you think, that if they are scum they have different fake claims?

[AurorusVox]

Wait. Let me think this through. Did he softclaim the SAME as his predecessor? I thought he fucked his softclaim up somehow? If not, why did people let me claim he was town for something he didn't do? x_x

[kortul]

Yes Well, because your wording was obscure, i even commented on this before.

[AurorusVox]

So he DIDN'T fuck up his claim in any way?

Unvote

[kortul]

No, he presented the same claim, almost with the same words (blonde, etc).

[AurorusVox]

Which he could have easily gained by reading his predecessor's ISO or scum QT, thereby nullifying anything that I've said at all.
Right well in that case, no I can't justify the townread. I was basing it mostly on that.

I'll reassess during the re-read.

[AurorusVox]

I mean, there are tiny gut twangs like the mini-competition with the Feysal wagon, but nothing to make me sheep him like I was anymore.

[kortul]

It was a mystery to me how that could make him obvtown in your eyes (or anyone else, since reading PM or 5 minute skimming over predecessor ISOs will do the trick).

[AurorusVox]

Yeah, no claiming the SAME doesn't do shit. Fucking the claim up, well, that's different.

[Eddard Stark]

Day 5, Votecount 14

Thor665 (2) - Pandora, Minimum

Timeater (5) - Magua, Plums Yo Mamma, kortul, Regfan, Regfan

Zdenek (2) - 4nx3ty, Thor665
AurorusVox (2) - Zdenek, BBmolla
Minimum (1) - Timeater

Not Voting (3):

Shinori, Tyene Sand, Aurorusvox

With 14 alive and 1 living dead it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline

: 25th October at 19:30pm Ireland time. (GMT+1)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2012-10-25 14:30:02)

[Pandora]

Uuuuuuuuh I missed the S.S. Pantshead you guys are riding on, why is the logical answer to 'omg AV's claim is town' to jump onto Timeater. This is the opposite of logical, stop voting for the obvtown idiot and get on someone actually scummy. I really liked the angry line about being trapped, had the right town of ~*townie indignation*~. I'd be willing to go after Zdenek at this point for continuing to push against stupid 'slip ups', or Magua for continually asking me stupid questions about why the obvtown is town. plz to be making bigger wagons on these two and not Timeater.

##Vote: Zdenek

[Sixty]

I hate this game.

Timeater is very clearly not Stannis, look at redFF's ISO. So... give me good reasons he is Aegon. I don't even think the slot is scum to begin with.

I really really really have to reread and we're running low on time. Dammit.

[Tyene Sand]

...Ahem.

I hate this game.

Timeater is very clearly not Stannis, look at redFF's ISO. So... give me good reasons he is Aegon. I don't even think the slot is scum to begin with.

I really really really have to reread and we're running low on time. Dammit.

[Eddard Stark]

Shinori has been prodded.

Pirate puppies are reminded that Ned killed Lady.

[Shinori]

##Vote: Timeater.

;/

If it werent for how long this game is I'd ask for a sub but no. Sorry about how inactive I am eddard ;/

[Magua]

Pre-proddodge proddodge.

Originally read AV's claim as pointless. Had to go back and reread and process to see what the fuss with the unvoting was about. Odd for MoS to ask Shadow if he was possibly roleblocked, but the missing kill due to rolestoppage makes eight thousand percent more sense than bvoigt attempting to perform the kill.

Thank god Timeater's actually (probably) going to get lynched.

That's about the sum of my thoughts at this point. Going to be away for all of tomorrow, will catch up Sunday if Tim's not been lynched by then.

[Regfan]

Tierce, I'll explain Timeater-Aegon-Scum potential tomorrow morning.

[Thor665]

I'd be willing to go after Zdenek at this point for continuing to push against stupid 'slip ups', or Magua for continually asking me stupid questions about why the obvtown is town. plz to be making bigger wagons on these two and not Timeater.

A flip from me to Zdenek as top lynch choice feels super awkward - discuss.

Timeater is very clearly not Stannis, look at redFF's ISO. So... give me good reasons he is Aegon. I don't even think the slot is scum to begin with.

I agree with this.
Except I actually have done zero work and have zero awareness on the Stannis/Aegon question - but just Timeater doesn't look like scum at all to me. So I support this line of thought.

[kortul]

I have a question regarding Feysal. It might be dumb, but anyway - is there any change in the flip text of a traitor who is recruited and traitor who is still alone? I suspect the answer is "no", but double checking can't hurt.

@Thor

, i am reading your ISO this weekend, and would like to ask something. You gave an example of the game (Storm of Swords) where you were town, and Zdenek scum, and pointed about similarities regarding Zdenek - Thor development there and here. I agree - the beginning is similar. But there's difference - your reaction and actions afterwards. There you were more relaxed, practically dismissed Zdenek words, weren't concentrated on him, and were actively scumhunting, working. Here, even though you have almost the same number of posts already, most of your activity is defense, or attacking those who vote you, even though i don't think you ever were in danger of being lynched yet. I find it hard to read someone who is concentrated on defense.

In a previous post you say that Timeater doesn't look scum to you, even though you did zero work. Your Feysal read was wrong, why do you think this read is better? Two days in a row he is one of the leading wagons, and you sit on your impression without reading at least Starbuck. Chances are you will still think this slot is town, but then you will be able to better defend your read, instead of asking to convince you that he is scum. Why are you so reluctant to do the legwork and show your opinion, not just agree/disagree with someone else?

[Thor665]

@Kortul

1. Your first question 'the difference of response' is a question i don't even fully grok the question part of. Of *course* I'm reacting differently to it because this time I have a feel of it as a scum Zdenek tell whereas at that point I didn't. I'd be more bewildered if I was reacting the same once I made the connection - why does that confuse you?

2. I don't do research because I tend to believe tells of today are as relevant as tells of yesterday, and I can get tells of today easier - also I rather like the scumhunting practice of asking people to explain tells of yesterday prior to me looking at them, and also to see how other people react to people explaining tells of yesterday.

3. Being wrong once (or even more, egads I've done so much more) does not make me think all my reads are inherently bad. One of them was, I goofed up badly, that doesn't mean I have to decide I'm terrible at the game and all my reads are gak. If I keep being wrong in this game a couple of times in a row I will be forced to accept that I'm off (in this game) and try to adjust, but to toss out all my reads because of one wrong one lies the path of Mina-style play, and I don't want to do that.

[Zdenek]

The attacks on me are essentially unfounded nonsense. Anx's my "read changes are agenda based" is too vague for me to respond to it, and I have no idea what 'slip ups' Pandora is talking about.

Minimum, could you say from where you're getting your scum-meta on Pine?

It's true that AVox doesn't fit well as Aegon, still don't see how he's not Stannis and I totally think that MoS would want to setup a solid claim quickly.

As far as the other wagons on Thor and Timeater go, I'm pretty happy with both of them, so that's all good.

[BBmolla]

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[Thor665]

As far as the other wagons on Thor and Timeater go, I'm pretty happy with both of them, so that's all good.

Says the guy voting AV while the wagon flakes out from under him and he doesn't address the claim.

But he's town and Thor is derp - carry on!

[Thor665]

While the world is struck into silence by the brilliance of that comment - allow me to also horribly shill a bit of sound for you all. (I apologize for this somewhat...but I figure I have a decent 'replacement bank' built up with the mods here

Majiffy is currently running a Mini Experimental game using audio only posts, and we're looking for one replacement.
So, if you ever wanted to hear me say 'sheep me' in real life (possibly while eating a sammitch) then you should probably consider replacing in. We're still in Day 1 and on...audio file...50 something...it's sorta like around 50 posts, though I expect those to be smaller amounts of posts prior to a lynch.

You are required to be able to record and submit audio in mp3 format to play.
Please PM me or Majiffy (but mostly Majiffy as all I'll do is forward stuff ) if interested.
I promise it will be...well, at least bemusing.

[Zdenek]

As far as the other wagons on Thor and Timeater go, I'm pretty happy with both of them, so that's all good.

Says the guy voting AV while the wagon flakes out from under him and he doesn't address the claim.

But he's town and Thor is derp - carry on!

Holy fuck die.

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Vote: Thor