Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)

[snifit]

Yes, rapidcanyon, this is precisely the AP I'm familiar with. Mini 1365. His reads and arguments were all over the place. He throws out as much shit as possible so that he can quote it post-game and say, "Hah! I told you!" (not really--I'm sure he's quite earnest. He did just say he's going to gloat about whichever read he's fixated on right now though. He does intend to gloat about whatever turns out to have some truth to it.)
I said that AP will probably have called everyone in the game scum by the end of D2--I think he literally did that in Mini 1365. You say he fixated on scum in the mini you played with him? Yeah, I can believe that--it's going to happen some percentage of the time. Not sure why you're discounting his read right now, before we know if he's right or not.

[AngryPidgeon]

Look at Possesed Pastors in a Paranoid Parish Mafia where he was town. He caught scum day 1 and later led the town to victory. Also, he played just as well in an ongoing game where he was night killed and town.

What? How are you confident I am scum? Because I'm not 'playing well'?

Few things:
1. No one plays perfect (or even well!) every game, are you kidding me?
2. Considering that you have been lurking, pushing me for 0 good reasons, and not actually contributing (the Vig shot could be a day SK?) you should vote yourself by your own logic (oh wait).
3. Define playing poorly and explain to me how Ive done it. (KEEP IN MIND THAT I JUST READ 17 PAGES IN A FEW HOURS AND CHOSE NOT TO COMMENT ON EVERYTHING FOR PEOPLE SANITY (INCLUDING MINE))

YOU are the one playing against meta if anyone since you usually post a TON and carefully explain reasons.

AngryP's 408. Yeah, Angry is a lot better than this as town from the games I've played with him. I am not sure if his substandard play indicates scum though.

Its a catchup post you idiot.

You have never played with me replacing in so I don't care about your meta analysis. I get reads from interacting with people . check out the only other game I've replaced in (ongoing, but dead) in mini normal-ville if you want proof of that.

Also, his aggression seems misplaced. He seems to be jumping onto anything and everything to make people look scummy. NeroCain, Zab, BC, me, Acosmist, that's a lot of scum reads. He also seems to be jumping to conclusions - something I know he doesn't do as town but instead carefully analyzes every possibility.

Also, don't care. I don't remember you accusing yourself of being scum for playing poorly that time you fake claimed watcher as VT and got busted.

[Kise]

I don't remember you accusing yourself of being scum for playing poorly that time you fake claimed watcher as VT and got busted.

oh snap

[pappums rat]

Votecount 1.12

"Your aura is pulsing! Are you in the beyond? I think you are!" -Professor Trelawney, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

AngryPidgeon - 5 (ThAdmiral, Kise, Acosmist, Nero Cain, rapidcanyon)
zabriel - 4 (jasonT1981, Kublai Khan, Zoroaster, Cybertronix)
BloodCovenant - 3 (Yates, snifit, Melmond)
Melmond - 3 (Tammy, Benmage, zabriel)
ThAdmiral - 1 (BloodCovenant)
snifit - 1 (PeregrineV)
Nero Cain - 1 (AngryPidgeon)

Not voting - Shahrizai, Amrun

BloodCovenant is V/LA until Monday.
Searching for a replacement for Shahrizai

With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is 10 PM EST on October 29, 2012.

[AngryPidgeon]

@Snifit: Sorry.

I know this side of me is what you hate playing with. I didn't even see you on the player list when I replaced in. I'd tone it down, but basically people think I'm scum because of the IaI slot + confirmation bias. (And if I played less spazzy people would absolutely make a meta case on me) So there you go. Actually I can't win. My normal meta is spazzy but RC is making a meta case on me for being spazzy. One day I will convince everyone that meta is 95% worthless.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Melmond

[AngryPidgeon]

Kublai Khan have you mentioned Melmond once this game? Read?

[BloodCovenent]

Nero and BloodCovenant jumping on Yates' #78 doesn't sit well with me.

It's pretty clear he wasn't fishing for roles or flavor.

This kind of shit you just can't know for certain.

Seriously doubting his claim because of this is just absurd, especially without knowing the flavor. Unless he's actually doing something scummy, why lynch him, it's not like, say.... A hated townie.

ಠ_ಠ

And not to mention, the whole 2 mafias thing with Zabriel.
My thoughts are the same as ThAdmiral in his #277
And why the vote on ThAd? You haven't said anything before this.
VOTE: Blood Covenant

I voted Thad because of his chainsaw defense of Zab.

I am not entirely sure that it was a dayvig that killed AV as opposed to a daytime serial killer. AV made 4 posts and none of them seemed really scummy to me when read while ignoring the fact that we already know his alignment. So, why would a dayvig feel the need to shoot so quickly and on someone who barely had any posts?

the same question goes for a day SK. And what makes you think there is a Day SK? Can you link me to the last game where you know of a day SK?

-BC/Zab are not teammates, but I'm willing to be that at least one of them are scum. Maybe both if Zabs slipped on this being multiball

How does that indicate my alignment?

Zabriels 418 feels like a sheep of Benmage's 416 as a way to start a new wagon.

good posting from jatown

Ya. Melmond should die too.

Votes Zabriel for gut.
Switches to BC for doubting the Acosmist claim.
FoS's Acosmist.
Defends Zabriel from the 2-team slip attack.
???
Townread on Zabriel.

best post from you all game.


Town
Ben
Tammy
Jason
Kise

Leaning town
Nero


Null
Aco
zoro
snifit
kk
RC
Shahrizai

leaning scum
Yates
KK
RC
AP

Scum
Zabriel
Melmond
Cyber

Vote: Zabriel

Rather lynch him first over Melmond.

[AngryPidgeon]

BC, you have been posting elsewhere, why not here?

[jasonT1981]

Kublai Khan have you mentioned Melmond once this game? Read?

given the few times you have mentioned him I don't think your one to point fingers. Especially with a vote on him, with little to no substance.

I know I have outstanding questions asked at me, been distracted tonight. Will be back on tomorrow to answer. Sorry, but its near 4am here.

[BloodCovenent]

BC, you have been posting elsewhere, why not here?

takes time to read dude.

[jasonT1981]

BC, you have been posting elsewhere, why not here?

Weak... I don't like the your posting elsewhere arguement. While yes, ideally everyone will be posting in game every time they post on the site, they don't.

Its nothing to worry about if they post elsewhere but not in the game.

Unless it becomes clear they are avoiding the game all together.

[BloodCovenent]

BC, you have been posting elsewhere, why not here?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4426464

[snifit]

No sweat, AP. You seem to be a decent chap.
And yeah, meta only goes so far, but it is especially worthless when one can't make comparisons to both town and scum games. Like you, I've only played as town, so I just kinda shrug when people say I'm not showing my town game or whatever.

I can't imagine how it's possible that BloodCovenant is not the leading wagon. Unless we lynch Melmond instead, I guess. At any rate zabriel and AP would be bad lynches.
P-edit didn't BC just come off V/LA?

[AngryPidgeon]

BC, you have been posting elsewhere, why not here?

takes time to read dude.

Prob town.

[BloodCovenent]

No sweat, AP. You seem to be a decent chap.
And yeah, meta only goes so far, but it is especially worthless when one can't make comparisons to both town and scum games. Like you, I've only played as town, so I just kinda shrug when people say I'm not showing my town game or whatever.

I can't imagine how it's possible that BloodCovenant is not the leading wagon. Unless we lynch Melmond instead, I guess. At any rate zabriel and AP would be bad lynches.
P-edit didn't BC just come off V/LA?

Hey, in your catch up post you made no mention of IAmInnocent, but you said that you'd be willing to lynch him over me, what about AP's posting made you change your mind on the slot?

[BloodCovenent]

BC, you have been posting elsewhere, why not here?

takes time to read dude.

Prob town.

for a second there, i almost thought my posts weren't going through

[AngryPidgeon]

given the few times you have mentioned him I don't think your one to point fingers. Especially with a vote on him, with little to no substance.

Wow. Im honestly never replacing in after this game. Like for some reason that was it. I just can't bring myself to
1. read multiple pages of walls and back and forth
2. suffer because I usually get reads from interacting with people. Reading other people's walls doesn't get me too far
3. heavy accusations from the previous slot for mainly lurking (and asking like 1 derpy question)
4. The above. honestly, Jason? I'm going to cut down on my swearing, but screw you. I've posted more than a LOT of people have and I replaced in LAST NIGHT. I'm sorry if my Melmond case is small.

P-edit: BC, why the townread on Nero?

[BloodCovenent]

P-edit: BC, why the townread on Nero?

1. he's not voting me
2. he's proactive
3. he's funny.

[snifit]

Hey, in your catch up post you made no mention of IAmInnocent, but you said that you'd be willing to lynch him over me, what about AP's posting made you change your mind on the slot?

Err, I'm having trouble finding things that aren't wrong in this post.
1) My catchup did mention IAI (granted, just that I'd mostly skipped his posts and would be reviewing him).
2) I didn't say I'd be willing to lynch him over you--I said I didn't object to his wagon.
3) AP's towntelling like a boss.

[BloodCovenent]

Hey, in your catch up post you made no mention of IAmInnocent, but you said that you'd be willing to lynch him over me, what about AP's posting made you change your mind on the slot?

Err, I'm having trouble finding things that aren't wrong in this post.
1) My catchup did mention IAI (granted, just that I'd mostly skipped his posts and would be reviewing him).
2) I didn't say I'd be willing to lynch him over you--I said I didn't object to his wagon.
3) AP's towntelling like a boss.

hmmm, i misread the end of your post then. Also, what i meant to say (instead of saying that your post made no mention of him) was that you didn't go into detail on him at all.

And are you sure AP's towntelling? and you're not just giving him a free-pass because he replaced in and is actually posting?

[Yates]

3) AP's

towntelling

boot licking Yates

like a boss.

FTFY

@AP - You must chill. Your tongue is chapping my @ss. What makes you so 1000% sure I am Town? This is really bad because the only people that should know my alignment are mod and myself AND scum. I'm not going to highlight all of your posts but this feels like you are trying to communicate with your buddies and I have the uncomfortable feeling I am going to wake up dead.

Unvote

Vote: AP

BC is still scum but AP needs to go first.

[AngryPidgeon]

@AP - You must chill. Your tongue is chapping my @ss. What makes you so 1000% sure I am Town? This is really bad because the only people that should know my alignment are mod and myself AND scum. I'm not going to highlight all of your posts but this feels like you are trying to communicate with your buddies and I have the uncomfortable feeling I am going to wake up dead.

I'm going to do this without looking back at quotes.
1. Sheeping shah blatantly on P2-3?. You are smart enough to know that you can get pressure for that, therefore unlikely to do it as scum
2. Your walls with Jason. You clearly cared more about jason's response than defending the growing pressure on you. You were willing to attack him with something likely to be considered scummy (once again, I know you aren't dumb so I don't expect you to 'role-fish' as scum or even pretend to do so in the guise of scumhunting)
3. AV's vote was parked on you when he died. I find it unlikely scum adds to the pressure you were getting from 2^ if you are his buddy. Your wagon had moderate potential at that point and AV was contributing to it at a critical point. And if it did go places, he was going to get less town credit than Benmage? and whoever else was Fosing you.

[AngryPidgeon]

And, yes, Yates: my grand plan is to bootlick you and Snifit for some excellent reason and not the people actually voting for me.

[pappums rat]

bump