Open 451.2: Vengeful Mafia

Whiskers · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:33 pm

In post 234, Om of the Nom wrote:If it's decided, may I ask who you're shooting?

In post 235, Klick wrote:Why do you care?

In post 236, Om of the Nom wrote:Because I want to know whether we have a chance at winning or if we lost.

In post 237, Klick wrote:Who cares?

I do, I'd like to fucking win the game, thanks. Beyond that, I don't think any of us cares, it doesn't really have a lasting personal effect.
Sorry that you've flipped and therefore can't respond.
Please shoot someone.

fatlikepig · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:37 am

Salamence20, a

Mafia Goon

, has been shot!

Day 2 begins!

Whiskers · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:29 pm

In post 78, Whiskers wrote:Salamence is:

1: the Godfather with VM as goon.

Salamence flipped Goon.

2: the Godfather with Om as goon.

Salamence flipped Goon.

3: the goon with Whiskers as GF.

4: the goon with Klick as GF.

Klick is dead, and flipped town.

5: town (some other combination).

Salamence flipped Goon.

Good. by POE, I am the GF with Salamence, and that wraps everything up nicely.

Or-- wait...

Om of the Nom · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:29 pm

There, I fucking knew it.
I request that I vote first, if we lose this game I will take the blame.
Analysis will come later.

Voidedmafia · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:40 pm

And then you vote me like last game and then Whisky hammers, quickly or not <_<.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:46 pm

I still need to analyse everything before I vote anybody :P

Om of the Nom · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:56 pm

So I forgot about this game yesterday lol I'll do my analysis very soon.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:10 pm

This post is just for reference.

Spoiler:

In post 24, Salamence20 wrote:Was there anyone here that didn't know him?

Kondi go post a link for Polygamist mafia so I can have a reason for outing you.

Whisky, cute buddying.

In post 30, Salamence20 wrote:Sala/Kondi scumteam is autowin for us :p

Good thing thats not the point.

Sala/Whisky scumteam is autoloss.

In post 33, Salamence20 wrote:Whisky, how about you create discussion instead of filler.

In post 37, Salamence20 wrote:Oh good. Claiming your buddy? Telling me how to let you autowin? (See 451.1)

I honestly don't feel up for shooting again. I don't feel I can get it right a second time.

I will shoot kondi2424 or Whisky though.

In post 39, Salamence20 wrote:Lets wagon Voided then, and she can shoot me.

I don't feel like doing because I don't trust you.

I mean, I called OM obvtown last time and he ended up scum saying the same thing.

kondi2424, no offense, but you are tricky and loaded with WIFOM.

In post 52, Salamence20 wrote:A lynched kondi2424 that shoots voided wins this for town.

Not really sure about Whisky.

In post 58, Salamence20 wrote:Well, we will be thrown into a 3-person lylo or a 4-person lylo.

Kondi scum leads Whisky scum.
Voided scum leads Om scum.

I have been 100% in the last 4 lylos I played as town. (I get persuaded easily so we lost 50% of them, but every single vote in the begining has been on scum).

In post 59, Salamence20 wrote:One of kondi2424/Whisky will be shot.

Please don't make me decide.

In post 62, Salamence20 wrote:Its because your buddy Whisky hates engagements with other scum

In post 68, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 67, Om of the Nom wrote:I can't decide, Sala makes my brain hurt :P

kondi2424/Whisky.

Ponder that for a moment.

In post 73, Salamence20 wrote:Everyone vote kondi2424, kondi2424 shoots Whisky.

That's the new plan.

In post 94, Salamence20 wrote:Whisky is odd, but town.
kondi2424 is quiet, but scum.
I am inaccurate, but town.
Voided is mean, but town.
Om is town because I believe in gamblers follicy.

In post 99, Salamence20 wrote:If so, Whisky is the goon with kondi2424.

In post 101, Salamence20 wrote:I cant read Whisky and you. So its probably possible.

In post 148, Salamence20 wrote:Shoot voided. It's better than Om.

In preference:

Voided
Whisky
OM/Salamenco

In post 150, Salamence20 wrote:Just in case. There's still the possibility you're scum.

Whisky/kondi2424 and Voided/Whisky is bad. Very very bad.

If kondi2424 is scum, Whisky is autolynched

In post 157, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 154, Klick wrote:Actually, Sala has a townread on Om.

It may be best for me to kill Om today.

If you feel so, do it, even though voided and Whisky are better i think (respectively).

As town, im not so good on reads unless i have a power role, so its possible.

In post 161, Salamence20 wrote:kondi2424, shoot voided.

If voided is scum i will auto lynch Om

In post 166, Salamence20 wrote:kondi2424, shoot Om.

Me and Whisky will powerlynch Voided.

DO NOT LET SCUM WIN AGAIN DAMNIT.

In post 177, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 173, Om of the Nom wrote:Seriously, Sala is obvscum. He's more concerned about proving his credibility than proving I'm scum.

PEDIT: So? I didn't switch from both ends of the town-scum spectrum.

That proves im town.

Im idiotic as town, smart as scum.

P-Edit: Shoot om, powerlynch voided.

Pp-Edit: OM JUST CONFIRMED SCUM WITH VOIDED, GOING FROM SHOOT VOIDED, TO SHOOT SALA. KILL OM.

In post 180, Salamence20 wrote:You weak bussed Voided. Youre done. Die.

Im going to feel trolled when/if kondi2424 is scum.

Go check out disney villians mafia.

In post 200, Salamence20 wrote:Wanna compromise on shooing your buddy voided?

P-Edit: no, not at all, im not playing dumb as town. Im just less rational as town vt vs PRs/Scum. I opperate better when I know who is who.

PP-Edit: voided > Whisky

Om of the Nom · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:20 pm

More references

Spoiler:

In post 21, Whiskers wrote:
In post 19, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 16, Klick wrote:I want to vote Sala.

VOTE: Kondi

I'm a better gambiter. Quit being jealous.

VOTE: Salamenco
He's a better alt. Quit outting him.

In post 28, Voidedmafia wrote:So, kondi2424 and Sala are being derps this time, huh?

Sala's obvbussing, though.

In post 40, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 38, Klick wrote:No seriously, shoot Voided. One of you
is
scum.

That'd be Sala.

In post 39, Salamence20 wrote:Lets wagon Voided then, and she can shoot me.

I'm a
he
...

But I wouldn't shoot you. I'd probably shoot kondi2424 or Om over you.

In post 48, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 43, Klick wrote:Voided, my mind just went blank.

I don't know why, but I felt the need to say that.

Sala is easy to wagon. Because Sala is easy to wagon, I don't want to wagon him. Better?

Why, Om?

In post 64, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 60, Whiskers wrote:VM, Om: is ^this scumflailing, or townflailing?

Don't think he was really indecisive last game, so it does feel more like scumflailing.

In post 78, Whiskers wrote:Salamenco is:
1: the Godfather with VM as goon.
2: the Godfather with Om as goon.
3: the goon with Whisky as GF.
4: the goon with kondi2424 as GF.
5: town (some other combination).

What I mean in saying this is: Salamenco is not the godfather with kondi2424 or Whisky, and Salamenco is not the goon with Om or VM.

unvote

On to the next reaction test.

In post 106, Whiskers wrote:Had we been mentioning that?
...beforehoof?

In post 78, Whiskers wrote:Salamenco is:
1: the Godfather with VM as goon.
2: the Godfather with Om as goon.
3: the goon with Whisky as GF.
4: the goon with kondi2424 as GF.
5: town (some other combination).

Anyway, consider this: My list up there still allows Salamenco to be scum with each player, only in one role or another. That way, if we do, for instance lynch (or shoot) OmGoon, we can cross all Non-OmGoon possibilities off the list-- in that case, the only on remaining is OmGoon+SalaGF.
Or, if kondi2424Goon, we know that none of those are applicable.

And, if we do end up lynching her today, and she flips scum, we can use it to (help) deduce the other partner from the flip.
The problem with lynching her is, what if she flips town? Since we have this information, I think we'd be better off random lynching, even, and trying to determine Salamenco's alignment/role after, than lynching Salamenco first.

In post 113, Voidedmafia wrote:Well, I believe in Whisky-town, so I guess I can go with Sala or Om.

Vote: Om

In post 205, Voidedmafia wrote:Pretty convinced of Sala-scum right now.

In post 213, Whiskers wrote:In conclusion: I'd still shoot Salamenco over Om. I'd still shoot VoidedMafia over Whisky. I'd shoot Om over VoidedMafia.

just imo.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:21 pm

Whisky: Who is the GF and why?
VM: Who is the GF and why?

Voidedmafia · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:25 pm

I said I had a townread on Whisky. Don't see why I need to change it. Unless Whisky's "Sala is goon with Whisky-GF" is somehow true, you're it.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:26 pm

Make a case on me, I want to see your thought process.

fatlikepig · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:10 pm

Whiskers has been prodded.

Whiskers · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:30 am

I have?
Why wasn't I notified of this?
I've been busy, I'll post when I am less busy-- no fear, that'll be soon.

fatlikepig · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:34 pm

Om of the Nom and Voidedmafia have been prodded.

[Please stop making me do this.]

Om of the Nom · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:37 pm

Voidedmafia · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:43 pm

That avatar is funny, Whisky.

Om, you're scum by PoE. What case is there to make?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:49 pm

Do you actually think my actions are the same as the last game?
Do you think my actions make sense as scum?
Am I actually a proper scumread or is PoE literally the only thing you're going to use in this LYLO and potentially cost us the game?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:55 pm

When you look at his ISO, Whisky hasn't actually done much besides make 2 lists on possible scumteams without really explaining anything and just continues to harp on that and do nothing else.
Both of you wanted Sala shot over me, and which ever one of you is the scum knew I could easily be mislynched in LYLO with the other person suspecting me too. However Whiskers mentioned I shouldn't be shot and then quickly retracted that leaving me open as a scumread.

Do you seriously think Sala and I are buddies anyway? Like, it doesn't fucking make sense at all.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:03 pm

But you've been fucking useless this game too, all you've done are shitty contentless posts in which you either point out people's mistakes or just post useless filler. The wagon hopping is fucking terrible too and holy shit it does not seem like your town playstyle at all, especially considering last game. You've barely explained anything and just coasted along through all the drama.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:06 pm

And the worst part is, I'm the mutually agreed scum in this group of people yet I'm the only one who has actually bothered to fucking give any explanations for my reads.
Geez, it's like picking the lesser of two evils here.

Voidedmafia · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:07 pm

In post 268, Om of the Nom wrote:When you look at his ISO, Whisky hasn't actually done much besides make 2 lists on possible scumteams without really explaining anything and just continues to harp on that and do nothing else.

No she hasn't. There is posts with nothing else, true (that "phallus-y" post comes to mind), but the majority of her posts are contentful and moving the game forward.

As for me, well, 3 pages are just nothing but you, Sala, and klick acting like complete dicks, post-hammer is really only Klick complaining about who he should hammer (more or less). It's not like there's anything I can really post about, to be honest.

Also, my town playstyle is pretty damn variable. (then again, that's because I think my play's degraded, but still.)

P-EDIT: PoE is a read. Also, I got another one just now: You completely missing more than half the things Whisky's done this game and exaggerating what she hasn't to try and show how she's scum.

Whiskers · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:08 pm

Okay!
First, Om, your play

here

looks identical, to me, to last game. You're making sense and you're quick in doing it.

I'm not sure how you "could be easily mislynched." I don't think I'm really in a position to point hooves right now-- those two lists

are

all I've done, and according to them, I am the last scum. The only thing to do now (for me) is to ignore them and look through the game with more traditional scumhunting methods in mind. As I said, I will do this soon.

Voided: How is Om "scum by POE"?
Om: Why do you think scum "knew you could be easily mislynched in LYLO"?

[preedit]

I'v been ninja'd by Om, Om, and VM. lemme post

Om of the Nom · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:13 pm

Spoiler: Are you fucking blind VM?

In post 15, Whiskers wrote:Do it.

(and that one ofc)
I don't remember my role in this game, let me go check my PM.

In post 17, Whiskers wrote:I thought you wanted to vote yourselv?

In post 21, Whiskers wrote:
In post 19, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 16, Klick wrote:I want to vote Sala.

VOTE: Kondi

I'm a better gambiter. Quit being jealous.

VOTE: Salamenco
He's a better alt. Quit outting him.

In post 25, Whiskers wrote:Look, he's going under the name kondi2424. To call him kondi is rude and annoying.

In post 32, Whiskers wrote:Game is slow. Post ponies and trot home from school.

http://pinkamenaparty.bandcamp.com
NSFW for hardcore & noise.

In post 44, Whiskers wrote:That's L-1, I believe.

In post 51, Whiskers wrote:Is it somehow my personal burden to create discussion? I'm not a unicorn, Om.

In post 53, Whiskers wrote:It is imperative that Om posts.

In post 60, Whiskers wrote:VM, Om: is ^this scumflailing, or townflailing?

In post 65, Whiskers wrote:
In post 61, Klick wrote:Why is my opinion not asked? I'm assuming because I already showed a scumread on Sala?

Because Om was't posting and VM wasn't voting.

In post 57, Whiskers wrote:
In post 55, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 52, Salamence20 wrote:A lynched kondi2424 that shoots voided wins this for town.

Not really sure about Whisky.

No it doesn't.

Actually, ok. I didn't pick up on this before.
But what is this even supposed to
mean??
If kondi2424 even gets a shot, he can not win the game by shooting scum. Remember last game where we lynched you and you shot the Godfather, and town didn't win?
What do you mean by this quote, Salamenco?

In post 70, Whiskers wrote:Om. You know me. Everything I do is a bluff. I only
look
like I know who to shoot.

And let me say this: I'd shoot Guille. I might be having a little cross contamination thing.

In post 72, Whiskers wrote:My point exactly.
So: What's to keep you from replacing out of this game?

In post 97, Whiskers wrote:
In post 96, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 94, Salamence20 wrote:Whisky is odd, but town.
kondi2424 is quiet, but scum.
I am inaccurate, but town.
Voided is mean, but town.
Om is town because I believe in gamblers follicy.

So one out of four is scum. Are you betting on kondi2424 being the GF?

(also, it's
fallacy
.)

phallus-y

In post 112, Whiskers wrote:Of course, read his ISO. He's not a half-bad (and therefore a more-than-half-good).

In post 120, Whiskers wrote:Salamenco, unvote.
Just a second.

In post 78, Whiskers wrote:Salamenco is:
1: the Godfather with VM as goon.
2: the Godfather with Om as goon.
3: the goon with Whisky as GF.
4: the goon with kondi2424 as GF.
5: town (some other combination).

What I mean in saying this is: Salamenco is not the godfather with kondi2424 or Whisky, and Salamenco is not the goon with Om or VM.

unvote

On to the next reaction test.

In post 121, Whiskers wrote:1: OmGF with SalGoon.
2: OmGF with WhiskyGoon.
3: OmGoon with kondi2424GF
4: OmGoon with VMGF.
5: OmTown

...It's interesting to me to see that kondi2424 is always on the wagons. Like, he's always gotta get his vote in there.

In post 131, Whiskers wrote:
In post 110, Klick wrote:Does anyone want to lynch OmNom?

In post 111, Whiskers wrote:Sorry, tried to keep things hypothetical-- why I included OmGoon and kondi2424Goon, as they can't both possibly coexist in this game.

In post 112, Whiskers wrote:Of course, read his ISO. He's not a half-bad (and therefore a more-than-half-good).

In post 113, Voidedmafia wrote:Well, I believe in Whisky-town, so I guess I can go with Sala or Om.

Vote: Om

In post 114, Klick wrote:VOTE: Om

kondi2424, your last post is wrong.

In post 142, Whiskers wrote:
vote: kondi2424

I actually think you'll make a good shot.

In post 206, Whiskers wrote:People you should not shoot: Om.

In post 213, Whiskers wrote:In conclusion: I'd still shoot Salamenco over Om. I'd still shoot VoidedMafia over Whisky. I'd shoot Om over VoidedMafia.

just imo.

In post 223, Whiskers wrote:
In post 215, Klick wrote:But you don't suspect a Sala/Om team, do you?

Not really. But you should. It's unlikely if my lists hold any water
(neither one can be GF with the other as a goon)
, but you don't believe they do.

In post 224, Whiskers wrote:Of course, if they're both scum, it doesn't really matter which one you shoot: if you vengekill the godfather, the game doesn't end.

In post 227, Whiskers wrote:Just so everybody is clear, it was Lorancae who made the bit about "where to go fuck yourself." I hadn't said anything of the sort to him.

In post 252, Whiskers wrote:
In post 78, Whiskers wrote:Salamenco is:

1: the Godfather with VM as goon.

Salamenco flipped Goon.

2: the Godfather with Om as goon.

Salamenco flipped Goon.

3: the goon with Whisky as GF.

4: the goon with kondi2424 as GF.

kondi2424 is dead, and flipped town.

5: town (some other combination).

Salamenco flipped Goon.

Good. by POE, I am the GF with Salamenco, and that wraps everything up nicely.

Or-- wait...

All of these posts are either useless filler, contentless game posts, or posts that have no indication or explanation whatsoever about any reads or reactions to events that had happened while still being somewhat related to the game.

Whiskers · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:13 pm

Okay, reading VM's new post about how I did all this great stuff, I went back to read my ISO. I don't have the best memory, but VM,

what are you on about??

Maybe it's not the best tactic to go, "Oh yeah?

Prove

I'm town."
Actually, scratch that. This is proving me your townread. Why am I a townread? What things have I done that pushes the game forward? In my own mind, I:
#Made the lists, and
#Explained and defended the lists.

ninja'd again