Open 446: C9++ (Avast! Viruses!) - GAME OVER

[McStab]

Well I bought you some extra time partner, and I believe the SK is the person I referred to in the quicktopic, post 25 immediately after Bitmap.

Good luck, death to town and death to the SK

NachoMamma8 HAMMAHTIME

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WAS FUN TROLLING YOU TOWN, COME AT ME SK, AND LULZ AT TOWN NOT LYNCHING ME/SK NOT COUNTERCLAIMING ME BEFORE I COULD LYNCH YA

[seilkops]

WTF?
UNVOTE: Nacho
pretty sure it's too late for me to do that, but I'm pretty tired/confused right now.

[seilkops]

LOL I don't know what's going on, but I think McStab fucked up and hit wiki instead of vote. Whatever. Kill it with fireeee
VOTE: Mcstab

[seilkops]

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WAS FUN WATCHING YOU HIT THE WRONG BUTTON SCUM, AND LULZ AT SCUM FOR SCREWING UP BIG TIME. TURNS OUT SK DIDN'T NEED TO COUNTERCLAIM.
NEXT TIME, HIT THE BUTTON

NEXT

TO WIKI.

[yabbaguy]

"Check-swing much? I thought that progress bar went all the way around to 100%. Guess we're still waiting on this freeware junk."

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Vote Count:

7 alive, 4 to lynch

Nachomamma8 (2): Cartographer, zabriel
solidstate (2): Debonair Danny DiPietro, McStab
zabriel (2): Nachomamma8, solidstate
McStab (1): seilkops

Deadline: October 31, 23:59 EDT (GMT-4)

I've been asked about McStab's #1200 - no vote. In more borderline cases such as partial bolding however, if it looks like a vote, I may and likely will count it as one.

[solidstate]

Staying classy, I see.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: McStab

[Nachomamma8]

no, no, no
mcstab is still confirmed scum; this doesn't change anything.
he is clearly mafia; yes, but he's also trying to get himself lynched. He formats his votes like I do, which means that he just types out the BBCode manually.

If we lynch his partner today, then SK and mafia should both take a shot at town, meaning that they will both hit the same person (resulting in a 3-1-1 and instant loss for mafia), or they both hit different (2-1-1, where town either lynches confirmed scum and gives SK the win, no kill to bring it down to 1-1-1 or 1-1 SK win). If we lynch the SK today, then it's going to end up being a 3-2 immediately to 2-1 LyLo, which is probably the best town's going to get. If we lynch town today (and SK and mafia shoot town), it's going to be a 2-2-1, town lynches McStab, and SK has ANOTHER shot at the Mafia to bring things down to a 2-1 (except with SK). Otherwise, mafia takes a shot at SK and mafia takes a shot at town, bringing it to a 3-2-1, McStab is still instant lynched, SK and mafia may shoot each other or town, bringing it down to wildcard. If we lynch him today, mafia takes a shot at SK, SK takes a shot at town, leaving it at 3-1-1 if the mafia is right, 2-1-1 if the mafia is wrong.

so I don't necessarily know what I want to do right now, but I don't want to instantly lynch McStab.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

LOL I don't know what's going on, but I think McStab fucked up and hit wiki instead of vote. Whatever. Kill it with fireeee
VOTE: Mcstab

Staying classy, I see.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: McStab

Did we already ignore the part where I had already come to this conclusion and had already explained WHY we weren't lynching him anyways? It's actually incredibly favorable that McStab is mafia and not the SK once you build out the decision tree.

[solidstate]

I thought you said it was 50% that he was mafia? When did you 'come to the conclusion'?

Anyway, obviously its superior to lynch a different scum today if we can, but mislynching puts us in a very bad position. I'm dubious that one outweighs the other although I haven't had time to completely re-analyze it.

Still, if we lynch him now, there is only a single night scenario in which we don't survive (both kills hit town). Every other outcome of night actions gives us at least one win chance, in some cases several, and in one case an instant win. Yes, if we lynch a different scum today those outcomes become automatic wins instead of mi/lylos, but we also have a (better than average) chance of mislynching and putting our game right back in the toilet.

The other problem with trying to lynch is who are we going to? And remember that

McStab is STILL HERE

. As we bounce around on wagons, he can always jump in to hammer his non-partner, so we have higher odds of hitting town/SK and lower chances of getting his partner. We also get him shitting WIFOM all over everything.

[zabriel]

UNVOTE:

Well, that was a huge failure.

I'm inclined to agree with SS at this point. McStab gets to be a loose cannon crazy right now. I think McStab needs to die today just to simplify thing and keep him from fucking us over. Is there anything else we should discuss while everybody is still alive?

[solidstate]

Actually... holy shit no. Kill Nacho right now. This is another trick from McStab.

Go read his ISO. He has never, ever voted with the vote tag, he just uses bold.

Thus he would not 'accidentally' hit wiki trying to hit vote.

Thus this IS him shitting WIFOM on the game to clear his buddy Nacho.

VOTE: Nacho

Do it. Do it right now.

[seilkops]

We can kill Nacho later. McStab dies now.

[Cartographer]

I just want Mafia to die we can always tie with the SK.

[solidstate]

I'll vote for McStab if there's no other option, but the only town person I'm willing to look at is Nacho at this point. I really think McStab slipped his strategy there.

[zabriel]

Nacho is the one who pointed out that McStab wants to die, and it kind of looks like you just called Nacho town there.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I thought you said it was 50% that he was mafia? When did you 'come to the conclusion'?

I came to the conclusion that it was possible you pedant; did you see anyone else even suggest the idea until I did?

Actually... holy shit no. Kill Nacho right now. This is another trick from McStab.

…

Thus this IS him shitting WIFOM on the game to clear his buddy Nacho.

And Nacho already pointed the first part out and the second was obvious; and if it’s WIFOM then clearly you can’t trust that Nacho actually is his buddy, your attempts at manipulation are so ham-handed SS.

We can kill Nacho later. McStab dies now.

You are the worst Innocent Child in the history of Innocent Children.

I just want Mafia to die we can always tie with the SK.

Wait, what?

Nacho is the one who pointed out that McStab wants to die, and it kind of looks like you just called Nacho town there.

You should probably vote SS, it’s a good vote.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Also Nacho, why is it that I feel like I always tend to see your name pop up everywhere else that isn't here before it does here if it shows up here at all?

[Nachomamma8]

Spoiler: :/

Actually... holy shit no. Kill Nacho right now. This is another trick from McStab.

Go read his ISO. He has never, ever voted with the vote tag, he just uses bold.

Thus he would not 'accidentally' hit wiki trying to hit vote.

Thus this IS him shitting WIFOM on the game to clear his buddy Nacho.

VOTE: Nacho

Do it. Do it right now.

We can kill Nacho later. McStab dies now.

I just want Mafia to die we can always tie with the SK.

this string of posts should be burned, probably.

Also Nacho, why is it that I feel like I always tend to see your name pop up everywhere else that isn't here before it does here if it shows up here at all?

This game is usually at the bottom of my bookmarks.

[zabriel]

The only thing that I'm wondering about right now is the fact that McStab's vote is parked on SS.

Also, Carto, I'm pretty sure town and SK can't tie unless we have a killing role.

[McStab]

Mod:V/LA (limited access to phone posting) from tomorrow (October 26th) till October 30th.

[solidstate]

Meh, silly, scummy wording is silly scummy wording (I just ment town in the sense of 'the town', all the players in the game), not much I can do about it. Still, we're really unlikely partners. See me wagoning him D1 on a 2-person team up to L-1 and the chance of some whacko hammering, him voting me yesterday and him voting me now (essentially suicide).

I still think the Nacho thing is legit. If I'm alive tomorrow, I'm going to be pushing him again. Not only is McStab's 'error' clearly faked, but Nacho is still one of the people who avoided McStab's wagon after making a 'show' of suspicion toward him. This strikes me as much more likely partner bussing behavior D1 (distancing himself from McStab by stating suspicion but then going silent when a wagon actually forms in response). Hell, the fact that McStab has

finally

shut up and checked out of the game is more proof in my eyes that he's realized the mistake and doesn't want to argue himself deeper into the hole. Many of you have expressed a lot of suspicion toward him, don't let my stupid error clear him.

VOTE: McStab

Otherwise I'm out of meaningful shit to argue about. No one else seems comfortable voting him today, and that is a reasonable instinct. McStab is 'good enough' and keeps us in the fight, vs odds of a misslynch that gets us killed.

[zabriel]

If we lynch McStab, we're still lynching Mafia. I'm happy with that.

VOTE: McStab

[Nachomamma8]

god fucking damnit
that was the most blatantly scumfuck hammer that I have ever seen

[Nachomamma8]

okay, nevermind, wasn't a hammer
but seriously, are you just not reading what DDD and I are posting?

[yabbaguy]

Vote Count:

7 alive, 4 to lynch

McStab (3): seilkops, solidstate, zabriel
solidstate (2): Debonair Danny DiPietro, McStab
Nachomamma8 (1): Cartographer
zabriel (1): Nachomamma8

Deadline: October 31, 23:59 EDT (GMT-4)