NY 159: RUST game over

[AngryPidgeon]

IDK, I kinda had an epiphany. Something seemed off. I saw the BC flip and thought "Well what was I expecting". Went back and saw that post. The line about me being a scumteam with blood caught my eye. I stared at it for a second. And yo know how sometimes you subconsciously pick up on a bunch of small things that are off, but don't really put it all together? But then, wham, some stimulus happens and it all snaps into your head at once? That is pretty much what happened.

Your Dcore bus was pretty giveaway.

[PeregrineV]

@Rofl- why was there no scumkill night 1?

because i am a jack of all trades and one of my abilities is

1-shot bulletproof

As in, you give that ability to someone else? Who did you give it to?

what? no. how do you get that from that? i just don't even.

i was bulletproof. it was a one shot ability. i did not get any confirmation on whether or not a shot was taken at me, but in light of the fact that i pushed through the lynch on the mafia goon and was still gunning for the mafia doctor going into night one it makes perfect fucking sense that they shot at me. and then there was no kill but the vig kill that night.

Just so we're clear, you are claiming to be 1-shot Bulletproof Town JOAT?

[AngryPidgeon]

And I'm very confused about why a JoaT would have 1xBP as an ability. That is passive. Commute would make more sense. But do large normals have to pass a review committee?

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you say words but give no reasons

why did you think me suggesting you could be scum if someone who ended up flipping town was scum meant i was scum? it doesn't accomplish much, from a scum perspective, to list your scum potential as based solely on the flip of someone that i, as scum, would know is going to flip town.

you obviously just fucking panicked when you suddenly showed up anywhere in my scumlist other than definitely town, but i still honestly don't get what the upside is for you to fake a guilty on me here, with two partners already dead, as what must be the most town-esteemed member of the scumteam. i'm flabbergasted.

[AngryPidgeon]

why did you think me suggesting you could be scum if someone who ended up flipping town was scum meant i was scum? it doesn't accomplish much, from a scum perspective, to list your scum potential as based solely on the flip of someone that i, as scum, would know is going to flip town.

It wasn't that it had scum motivation. It was that it made no sense from a town perspective. (I like to think of as proof by contradiction. I mean if it does have scum motivation behind it then you could still be scum or town). If it doesn't make sense as town, then it comes from scum.

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@Rofl- why was there no scumkill night 1?

because i am a jack of all trades and one of my abilities is

1-shot bulletproof

As in, you give that ability to someone else? Who did you give it to?

what? no. how do you get that from that? i just don't even.

i was bulletproof. it was a one shot ability. i did not get any confirmation on whether or not a shot was taken at me, but in light of the fact that i pushed through the lynch on the mafia goon and was still gunning for the mafia doctor going into night one it makes perfect fucking sense that they shot at me. and then there was no kill but the vig kill that night.

Just so we're clear, you are claiming to be 1-shot Bulletproof Town JOAT?

that is correct. i am a town joat. i have at least two 1-shot abilities. one of them was/is 1-shot bulletproof. i may or may not have used any other ability(ies) i have. since my lynch is going to get pushed through based on ap's "guilty" i will not claim these other abilities no matter what. i will say that none of my other abilities have thus far amounted to anything useful (but i thought that drawing a nightkill to my bp was pretty damn useful)

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why did you think me suggesting you could be scum if someone who ended up flipping town was scum meant i was scum? it doesn't accomplish much, from a scum perspective, to list your scum potential as based solely on the flip of someone that i, as scum, would know is going to flip town.

It wasn't that it had scum motivation. It was that it made no sense from a town perspective. (I like to think of as proof by contradiction. I mean if it does have scum motivation behind it then you could still be scum or town). If it doesn't make sense as town, then it comes from scum.

why doesn't it make sense as town, exactly?

[AngryPidgeon]

It could be the amount of coffee Im chugging, but my heart is racing over here.

There was so much pressure to kill all the millers either via lynch or vig-shot, that he was going to flip by end of N2 at the latest. Why on earth would I defend a scum buddy when its painfully obvious he is dying no later than N2?

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It could be the amount of coffee Im chugging, but my heart is racing over here.

There was so much pressure to kill all the millers either via lynch or vig-shot, that he was going to flip by end of N2 at the latest. Why on earth would I defend a scum buddy when its painfully obvious he is dying no later than N2?

why on earth would i try to tie you to someone who is going to die no later than n2 and flip

town

????

[AngryPidgeon]

@Rob why are you not pushing for a malp lynch since you know more than anything else right now that he is guilty?

[Rob14]

@Rofl- why was there no scumkill night 1?

because i am a jack of all trades and one of my abilities is

1-shot bulletproof

As in, you give that ability to someone else? Who did you give it to?

what? no. how do you get that from that? i just don't even.

i was bulletproof. it was a one shot ability. i did not get any confirmation on whether or not a shot was taken at me, but in light of the fact that i pushed through the lynch on the mafia goon and was still gunning for the mafia doctor going into night one it makes perfect fucking sense that they shot at me. and then there was no kill but the vig kill that night.

Just so we're clear, you are claiming to be 1-shot Bulletproof Town JOAT?

that is correct. i am a town joat. i have at least two 1-shot abilities. one of them was/is 1-shot bulletproof. i may or may not have used any other ability(ies) i have. since my lynch is going to get pushed through based on ap's "guilty" i will not claim these other abilities no matter what. i will say that none of my other abilities have thus far amounted to anything useful (but i thought that drawing a nightkill to my bp was pretty damn useful)

Can you tell me your town motivation behind withholding info to your death?

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Can you tell me your town motivation behind withholding info to your death?

i'm doing my very best to NOT die today and i still don't want the scum to know what else i can do

[PeregrineV]

@ROFL- Aren't you like the third or forth JOAT claim?

[AngryPidgeon]

It could be the amount of coffee Im chugging, but my heart is racing over here.

There was so much pressure to kill all the millers either via lynch or vig-shot, that he was going to flip by end of N2 at the latest. Why on earth would I defend a scum buddy when its painfully obvious he is dying no later than N2?

why on earth would i try to tie you to someone who is going to die no later than n2 and flip

town

????

Its not exactly a super rare scum tactic.
1. You are no longer accountable for that read after the flip
2. It looks like scum hunting
3. It makes you look less all-knowing

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@ROFL- Aren't you like the third or forth JOAT claim?

third i think but why do you think i immediately believed ckd's joat claim? that seems like the theme of the whole setup

[Rob14]

@Rob why are you not pushing for a malp lynch since you know more than anything else right now that he is guilty?

Waiting for his response at the moment. Unless it's satisfactory, which there is only one claim that I can think of that would make it so, I'll be voting for him very, very soon.

Frankly, I like the results from pressuring rofl at the moment, though. His responses are very interesting.

P-edit: Yeah, but you said you were pretty certain you were going to by lynched and therefore wouldn't give info. If you were L-1 and someone stated intent to hammer, would you give up the info on your role before death so we knew your abilities?

[roflcopter]

It could be the amount of coffee Im chugging, but my heart is racing over here.

There was so much pressure to kill all the millers either via lynch or vig-shot, that he was going to flip by end of N2 at the latest. Why on earth would I defend a scum buddy when its painfully obvious he is dying no later than N2?

why on earth would i try to tie you to someone who is going to die no later than n2 and flip

town

????

Its not exactly a super rare scum tactic.
1. You are no longer accountable for that read after the flip
2. It looks like scum hunting
3. It makes you look less all-knowing

now you're making up reasons and retroactively applying them to your previous read. you already said it was an "epiphany." this is confirmation bias slash you are scum making this all up.

[AngryPidgeon]

Haha, hiraki did it in space mafia and it was one of the reasons I JK'd her.

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@Rob why are you not pushing for a malp lynch since you know more than anything else right now that he is guilty?

Waiting for his response at the moment. Unless it's satisfactory, which there is only one claim that I can think of that would make it so, I'll be voting for him very, very soon.

Frankly, I like the results from pressuring rofl at the moment, though. His responses are very interesting.

P-edit: Yeah, but you said you were pretty certain you were going to by lynched and therefore wouldn't give info. If you were L-1 and someone stated intent to hammer, would you give up the info on your role before death so we knew your abilities?

i've already told you i have no useful information other than my bulletproofness to give right now so no. the useful info you will get from my lynch is that angrypidgeon faked a guilty.

[Rob14]

It could be the amount of coffee Im chugging, but my heart is racing over here.

There was so much pressure to kill all the millers either via lynch or vig-shot, that he was going to flip by end of N2 at the latest. Why on earth would I defend a scum buddy when its painfully obvious he is dying no later than N2?

why on earth would i try to tie you to someone who is going to die no later than n2 and flip

town

????

Its not exactly a super rare scum tactic.
1. You are no longer accountable for that read after the flip
2. It looks like scum hunting
3. It makes you look less all-knowing

now you're making up reasons and retroactively applying them to your previous read. you already said it was an "epiphany." this is confirmation bias slash you are scum making this all up.

Why does scum have motivation to fake a guilty in a normal game where there is no bussing?

[Rob14]

EBWODP: Meant busdriver.

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Haha, hiraki did it in space mafia and it was one of the reasons I JK'd her.

the difference is that you roleblocked a scum kill not came up with an investigation result. and the second difference is that hiraki was widely suspected at that point in space mafia while in this game i have been appearing at or near the top of most relevant town lists.

did you breadcrumb your role?

[AngryPidgeon]

EBWODP: Meant busdriver.

Bus driver? there are none in normals

[PeregrineV]

@ROFL- Aren't you like the third or forth JOAT claim?

third i think but why do you think i immediately believed ckd's joat claim? that seems like the theme of the whole setup

Ok, no offense to all you "JOAT"s out there, but you need to get your claims/fakeclaims/facts straight.

And fast.

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Why does scum have motivation to fake a guilty in a normal game where there is no bussing?

i have no fucking idea i'm probably more confused than anyone else here