Open 449: Switch Mafia (Game Over)
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Jal Mafia Scum
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Siveure DtTrikyp Mafia Scum
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Numbers matter at MyLo/LyLo, but there's like no way to alter them again without no-killing. Also, the ONE extra town body is not going to help town, especially if it's going to be someone who would otherwise have been shot by a good town.
I'm not purposefully being dense about what I'm arguing, I'm purposefully being dense by arguing at all... This is utterly worthless setup speculation.
Anyway,
UNVOTE: Hyperion
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Jal Mafia Scum
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greygnarl Mafia Scum
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In post 624, Jal wrote:Daumis, don't hide. What are your thoughts on the Potato kill?
It was quite the surprise since I saw him as a townie and I don't want to make any quick thoughts until I reread day 1, but since it's night time in my country I will probably will lurk for while than go to sleep, so no ideas from me until I get my beauty sleep.-
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Jal Mafia Scum
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These two things make me think Fitz is town.
1) Unless he is feigning ignorance on Potato (possibility), he is not aware of Potato being a hydra.
In post 20, havingfitz wrote:In post 17, Malakittens wrote:elHydra?
@all, do we have any hydras...or alts?
2) Fitz looks like he wouldn't have screwed up the switches.
In post 79, havingfitz wrote:In post 77, malpascp wrote:In post 76, havingfitz wrote:
In post 78, Potatouhou wrote:@havingfitz: What is your read on Daumis?
He's almost too scummy to be scum. If he doesn't wind up being the lynch today I think he is definitely someone who needs to go before LYLO. He'd be a great vig target but until the mafia vig switch is removed (either by death or the sk disabling it) I don't see the vig doing much.-
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Siveure DtTrikyp Mafia Scum
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greygnarl Mafia Scum
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And then Daumis was fucking obvtowner than he already was. Tajun was in the null stack. I can do a lynch on her.
Town
Siv
Hyp
Daumis
Jal
^That looks like such a buddying list.
The other three were there because fitz was giving me a weird feel, andrew usually is hard to read, and Mala's buddying with Pota is really odd now.
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In post 321, greygnarl wrote:groan Daumis is scum
This game is going nowhere. Lynching this scum will free up a PR and get us some results.
In post 327, greygnarl wrote:In post 325, Malakittens wrote:Why don't we actually try lynching someone that looks scummy?
My name is Greygnarl and I endorse that message too. Just that since we can't agree, I'll tell you who's scummy. Daumis is. Let's kill'em.
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andrew94 Mafia Scum
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Okay, the scum just threw away an almost certain victory. People not dumb enough to do that include:
In post 603, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Somebody on the mafia side does not understand how the switches work, or was away for the duration of the night. Or else absolutely MAJOR wifommage is going on, but I really doubt that.
VOTE: Greygnarl
Siv
Me
Frankly, that is all. Mala and Jal are on the maybe piles, the rest of you have all but proved you are not paying any bloody attention.
But, we do get andrew's town alignment for free as well, since they would not have left the vig on if he was scum. Two free townies is a pretty good deal.
In post 614, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:But jal, even so, if you accept the vig wants to make players odd it's a good thing for vig to kill somebody from town perspective last night, even if that person is town.
PEdit: If you're going to direct the cop, why, just WHY, would you direct the cop towards your scumbuddy?
Good point, GG gets some more free town points.
In post 625, Jal wrote:I'm in-between the switches. I do legitimately think scum screwed up rather than let siv not possibly die, for the record. I wonder if they realized the SK was dead.
This seems forced to me.
Any chance of an explanation oncoming?
In post 633, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:I have absolutely no idea who is scum. I have an idea who is town, and will happily lynch whoever in the other pile, by just sheeping somebody in my town pile.
So okay, sheeping jal.
VOTE: tajun
Two things:
1) I am insulted. Not that you think I am scum, but that you think I am stupid enough to leave the vig on.
2) Why do you have town on Jal?
In post 634, greygnarl wrote:And then Daumis was fucking obvtowner than he already was. Tajun was in the null stack. I can do a lynch on her.
Town
Siv
Hyp
Daumis
Jal
^That looks like such a buddying list.
The other three were there because fitz was giving me a weird feel, andrew usually is hard to read, and Mala's buddying with Pota is really odd now.
Ja
Two more things:
1) Why are Jal, Daumis and Hyp town? (You explained Hyp, but do you have any better reasons?)
2) I am a boy. Or man. Whatever.
In conclusion:
Siv, Andrew and GG are town. Even if you idiotically lynch me tonight, town should still win, unless you far more idiotically lynch from that list.
Everyone seems to be sheeping Jal. I have no idea why you people have town on her, but she is still null at best for me.
ISO of Potato coming up, stay tuned."I see little hope for democracy as an effective form of government, but I admire the poetry of how it makes its victims complicit in their own destruction."-
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Tajun Goon
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Actually, one more possibility I hadn't considered:
@Voided: Can the scum activate the switch without the player who is the switch being present? That is, can a scumteam deactivate a switch on their QT or is it a PM thing?"I see little hope for democracy as an effective form of government, but I admire the poetry of how it makes its victims complicit in their own destruction."-
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I'll try to post thoughts tomorrow. Still w/o power thanks to Sandy and posting by phone.
In fact...v/la until Friday.Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
V/LA on weekends (i.e. RL > mafia)
The shortest GTKAS thread ever!-
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greygnarl Mafia Scum
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Okay, in retrospect Potato said a lot without saying much, and was a well deserved vig target. Here's the best I've got
In post 122, Potatouhou wrote:Hyperion just 'summed up the game' without referring to everything thatisn'tthe Daumis wagon. He didn't even pay attention to any of my posts and just continued to base theories off the wagon without real evidence or conviction. He basically discredited my reason for getting on the wagon by not even mentioning what that was and attacking a completely different reason instead. Then he proceeds to make a shit vote on Krazy for being 4th on the wagon,which is a wiki tell, therefore it's extremely useless.
This doesn't read like a bus to me, this reads like a scum finding something interesting to talk about and going with it.
In post 156, Potatouhou wrote:I'm fine with a lynch on Malpa or Hyperion today, would be willing to compromise on Daumis and possibly greygnarl.
Malpa we know he thought was town, Hyp I am betting the same. Setting up lynches on townies is a scum's best friend. Note the side glance at Daumis as well.
In post 316, Potatouhou wrote:Alright, I know Om has a lot of school work so I'll try to fill in most of the gaps. This is the second head speaking.
I'm going have to interfere with what Om has said. I think the Jal vote we made was pretty OMGUS. So first thing is first...
UNVOTE:
Secondly, it would be unwise to lynch the SK this early on because it would lock our PRs and there is a good chance of a cross kill between SK and mafia.
Lets stop the meta talking and lynch who we think is scum.
VOTE: Daumis123
Returns to Daumis, after the brief absence. This is a little harder to read, with him being a hydra and all, but if it was pure Om I would definitely call this a return to the bus, which he thought would lead to a lynch.
Conclusions:
The Mala/Om fight was very well done if it was a bus. I would like to hear what Mala thinks of the flips, and who she now believes is scum. She gets some good town points.
Hyperion is the big winner here, definitely read that as scum on town action.
Hate to sound like a broken record, but I still think Daumis is the scummiest guy around. He also is a perfect fit for the "thought leaving the vig on was a good idea" thing, and he would certainly not have been a vig target.
VOTE: Daumis
I'll meditate on this overnight, let you know if anything else jumps out at me."I see little hope for democracy as an effective form of government, but I admire the poetry of how it makes its victims complicit in their own destruction."-
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Votecount 2.01:
Tajun - Jal, Siv
Daumis - Tajun
Not Voting- Hyperion, havingfitz, Andrew94, Malakittens, Greygnarl, Tajun, Daumis
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch and to no-lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2012-11-20 14:54:58), or by 1:55 PM on November 20th, 2012.
In post 643, Tajun wrote:Actually, one more possibility I hadn't considered:
@Voided: Can the scum activate the switch without the player who is the switch being present? That is, can a scumteam deactivate a switch on their QT or is it a PM thing?
It doesn't matter where. I just need to know.Last edited by Voidedmafia on Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Jal Mafia Scum
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@Tajun:
In post 642, Tajun wrote:Siv
Me
Frankly, that is all. Mala and Jal are on the maybe piles, the rest of you have all but proved you are not paying any bloody attention.
But, we do get andrew's town alignment for free as well, since they would not have left the vig on if he was scum. Two free townies is a pretty good deal.
Mala, Andrew, and Siv were all on Auntie's scum list. Siv I can understand giving a "clear" given that she said she would probably target him, but Mala and Andrew were not being targeted towards the end of the day and Auntie was really questioning Mala too. Why give the clear to Andrew and not Mala? Otherwise, Andrew was one of your top scum reads yesterday.
Also,
In post 642, Tajun wrote:But, we do get andrew's town alignment for free as well, since they would not have left the vig on if he was scum. Two free townies is a pretty good deal.
Implies you think scum left the vig on purposely.
You being insulted here though:
In post 642, Tajun wrote:1) I am insulted. Not that you think I am scum, but that you think I am stupid enough to leave the vig on.
Implies that you think the scum screwed up. So which do you think happened? To make my opinion clear, I think scum screwed up some.
In post 642, Tajun wrote:Everyone seems to be sheeping Jal. I have no idea why you people have town on her, but she is still null at best for me.
What happened to me being slightly leaning town for my mafia/sk thing?-
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In post 646, Tajun wrote:Returns to Daumis, after the brief absence. This is a little harder to read, with him being a hydra and all, but if it was pure Om I would definitely call this a return to the bus, which he thought would lead to a lynch.
That was Bitmap (the other head), actually.
Not exactly sure what you mean here. Are you saying that Potato unvoted me and jumped back on scumbuddy Daumis thinking it would lead to a lynch? Being the third vote, I doubt they would have got on himthinkingit would lead to a lynch if they were scum buddies.
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