Open 452i - Open Space

[Aether]

Happy guys? To be brutally honest I have been busy playing LoL lately, and didn't feel like responding to some of this load of crap. I find the wagon on Aether to have potential but I don't like the people pushing it, which ultimately turns me off. A lot of you have been making up reads I feel and have been pushing votes for the wrong reasons. I don't like how NU is justifying his vote with pressure and lurkiness rather than legitimate reasons. I'll put it out there right now, lurking is not a scumtell on it's own and you're all scummy for pushing a lynch on a lurker without anything else to justify it. Period.

I hate LoL. LoL is for N00Bs. Stop playing LoL and start playing a more sensible game, like DotA or Mafia.

[Declan_giggs]

Aether seems to be counting on his idiocy protecting him since a mislynch today leads to LYLO D3. We're lynching him at deadline if no better case emerges. I'm in, the deliberate WIFOM actually removes some of my doubt about the purpose of it for me.

[havingfitz]

Fitz: Thinking that someone 'playing poorly' based off your reads and ONE flip that I supported is obvious bullshit. No one plays perfect all the time or even half the time.

I never say “playing poorly”…so don’t attribute that to me. What I HAVE said is that your reads are crap in this game and that you sucked D1. That could equate to “playing poorly” but I did not say that. If you’re going to quote me then quote what I’ve actually said.

Im really not sure how you expect anyone to take you seriously when you have done this.

Ad hom? I expect to be taken seriously in every game I play.

1. asserted that I played well in another game. (Fine, who cares)

2. asserted that I am playing poorly in this game (based off of one flip, so bullshit basically)

4. asserted that playing poorly is a scumtell. BONUS: Its a META tell for ME based off of ONE GAME. Right. Riiiight,. Fitz. Riiiiight.

1 – I said your play in this game compared to that game was suspect IMO. They don’t feel the same. You asked for how they were different and I provided a FACT based response. How is your pt #1 a negative?

2 – You are. And it’s not based off one flip. Matt has flipped as well. And you’ve gone OMGUS on me. That’s three alignments I know you have gotten wrong (intentionally or otherwise).

3 - ?

4 – Where did I make this assertion? Misrep.

[Aether]

Good luck lynching me! My scumbuddies are NovaDragon and Om of the Nom.

^_^ JK!

[Aether]

Om of the Nom, should I do a Lance, except that I am town?

[havingfitz]

So Om...is your Disturbed read essentially a LoL-esque suspicion?

In p.676 Declan likes AP's scumhunting post and Venmar now leads his list of suspects. Why aren't your voting anyone Declan?

677 to LS....a mislynch today would be MYLO tomorrow. We would have the option of No Lynching to reduce the player pool. And with no clear cut townies IMO (pending a hider revelation) a smaller pool could only help.

@AP wrt Post 686...just saw the part about me defending Dragon by coming after you. When I placed my vote on you there were 6 people voting Dragon (most incorrectly it turns out). If I'm defending Dragon by pushing you....why did I pick you versus the other 5 on Dragon? Perhaps I'm pushing you because I actually suspect you?

Also....for those of you who were (or thought they were) voting Dragon when he reached a faux lynch and aren't now [AP, Om, Declan, Venmar]...has your opinion of him changed? And why aren't you voting anyone Declan?

@AP wrt Post 689...why are you calling out Dragon for voting Aether when you are his top scumread while you aren't even voting anyone!? Despite having three prime suspects.

@name User wrt Post 690...my main point was that you got off the MattP 1 vote wagon onto Om's because MattP's wagon was smaller and then you proceeded to get off Om to start a new wagon (ie one with 1 vote).

@AP wrt Post 703...there's that word "poorly" again that I never used. Semantic peeve I have.

@Aether wrt your last several posts. How is your play of any benefit to town? I suspect others more than I do you but you are seriously approaching PL status. I really do not enjoy reading anything you have to say. It's all rubbish.

My other two games are locked atm so I think I'll do a few ISOs. zzzzzzzz

[Disturbed_One]

Been re-reading through the thread and I've decided that Aether is obvious town. Declan trying to push through a mislynch on an obvious townie and setting up an out for when he flips town at the same time is... exactly what I would expect of scum to do.

[TeChNoWC]

VoteCount 2.4

NovaDragon - 3 (Disturbed_One, Aether, Lastsurvivor) -

L3

Aether - 2 (Om of the Nom, NovaDragon) - L4
Disturbed_One - 2 (AngryPidgeon, Name User) - L4
AngryPidgeon - 1 (havingfitz) - L5

Not Voting: Venmar, Declan_giggs

With 10 Alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Day 2 will end in

(expired on 2012-11-17 06:30:00)

"Everything has been figured out, except how to live." Jean-Paul Satre

[Aether]

I am so obviously town. The only question is whether to

policy

lynch me or not.

Oh and Ship Captain TeChNoWC, Om of the Nom is not two people, even though his name has four words in it.

Thankyou, fixed - TeChNoWC

[Aether]

Can two volunteers please step up and pressure NovaDragon?

[Aether]

ROAR! MORE POSTS! WE NEED MORE POSTS!

[AngryPidgeon]

You said "I love how no one in the game thinks hes town." Why?

If you look at everyone's reads, you will see that no one actually thinks Disturbed is town.

Om thinks hes scum, I think hes scum, dragon thinks hes scum, NU thinks hes scum. Everyone else thinks hes null AT BEST.

[AngryPidgeon]

Been re-reading through the thread and I've decided that Aether is obvious town. Declan trying to push through a mislynch on an obvious townie and setting up an out for when he flips town at the same time is... exactly what I would expect of scum to do.

God, just kill it. Declan get over here.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also....for those of you who were (or thought they were) voting Dragon when he reached a faux lynch and aren't now [AP, Om, Declan, Venmar]...has your opinion of him changed? And why aren't you voting anyone Declan?

Its you/him/Disturbed. I just want disturbed right now since literally no one thinks he could be town.

@AP wrt Post 686...just saw the part about me defending Dragon by coming after you. When I placed my vote on you there were 6 people voting Dragon (most incorrectly it turns out). If I'm defending Dragon by pushing you....why did I pick you versus the other 5 on Dragon? Perhaps I'm pushing you because I actually suspect you?

Since then. Most of your pressure is going on me. And given that you HAVE A SLIGHT SCUM READ ON DRAGON its really strange that you aren't directing questions to him at all or really caring about him at all.

@AP wrt Post 689...why are you calling out Dragon for voting Aether when you are his top scumread while you aren't even voting anyone!? Despite having three prime suspects.

I was trying to figure out the best wagon. And I did. What is your opinion on Disturbed's last post?

Perhaps I'm pushing you because I actually suspect you?

First of off, its not true, and second off, I don't want to answer questions about that. Lets focus on Disturbed people.

[AngryPidgeon]

tl;dr: IAMA Woody Harrelson. AMA about my new movie Rampart.

[Lastsurvivor]

Is not the world a big WIFOM?

No, it's not.

Fitz is correct that it's MYLO tomorrow. I bad at math.

Venmar ty for answering my questions.

Been re-reading through the thread and I've decided that Aether is obvious town.

Why?

[AngryPidgeon]

Because he is scum. With Dragon and Fitz.

[havingfitz]

Because he is scum. With Dragon and Fitz.

Are you wrong on purpose or by nature?

[AngryPidgeon]

Hi Fitz! Nice to see you! How're things?!?

Now tell me why Disturbed now has a MYSTICAL town read on Aether for REASONS and has concluded that DECLAN GIGGS is the one trying to mislynch him and NOT ANYONE THAT IS VOTING FOR HIM.

[havingfitz]

I'm about to welcome a Nor' Easter. If you want to know why Disturbed is doing anything ask him.

[AngryPidgeon]

No Fitz. That is BS. Quit sitting on the fence about your scum buddy.

[AngryPidgeon]

You never asked me about my motivations, you just kind of said they are scum motivations. So I know you don't care about asking Disturbed anything and you KNOW that Im asking your opinions on it specifically.

[havingfitz]

No Fitz. That is BS. Quit sitting on the fence about your scum buddy.

How am I fencesitting? If you want info from Disturb ask him.

I've told you why I haven't interacted with Disturbed...quit being obtuse. And I do not care about motivations. I'm not in tune to them. Did you use motivation to wagon two townies on D1?

[AngryPidgeon]

So you have literally no opinion whatsoever about him declaring Aether a town read for no provided reason and deciding that Giggs (of all the people pushing Aether) is the scum pushing that wagon?

I don't care about Disturbed. Hes scum. I'm asking for YOUR opinion on him. You evidently have absolutely zero opinion of him, ergo you are fence-sitting about him.

I don't care that you haven't interacted with Disturbed. (Well, actually I do that is why Im asking your opinion on him)

[Om of the Nom]

So Om...is your Disturbed read essentially a LoL-esque suspicion?

Disturbed just hasn't done anything of note and is also flying under the radar.

Also....for those of you who were (or thought they were) voting Dragon when he reached a faux lynch and aren't now [AP, Om, Declan, Venmar]...has your opinion of him changed? And why aren't you voting anyone Declan?

Already mentioned I think he's town now.