Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[Tammy]

... I'm investing tonight then

I think that's a good plan. That's what I want to do tonight. We need to the people who are unlikely to take a night kill to invest so we can afford to outbid scum the next night when it will become more important.

Sala - people underestimate you. You used that to your advantage as scum in Disney Villains, use it to your advantage when you're town.

[Magua]

Vote Count 2.5

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Elmo TeH AzN (2): Mehdi2277, Tammy
Seanald (1): greygnarl

Not Voting (14): BBmolla, Elmo TeH AzN, Declan_giggs, Guille2015, Pitty, StefanB, Eidolon, PeregrineV, Tazaro, Seanald, Phillammon, SlumberPartyBois, Salamence20, Voidedmafia

Deadline is November 20th, at 11:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2012-11-20 23:00:00)

[Salamence20]

... I'm investing tonight then

I think that's a good plan. That's what I want to do tonight. We need to the people who are unlikely to take a night kill to invest so we can afford to outbid scum the next night when it will become more important.

Sala - people underestimate you. You used that to your advantage as scum in Disney Villains, use it to your advantage when you're town.

Quick question.

You understand last time you tried this motivation thing, you were scum, right?

[Salamence20]

Regardless of your alignment, I appreciate it.

[Tammy]

Yep! Doesn't mean I wasn't being honest then either.

[greygnarl]

@Mehdi I generally yell a lot as both alignments. Besides for Masons and Mafia, my first game ever, I've never been that invested in a game where I was town until this one.

[Mehdi2277]

Meta links? I thought you did anyway but that should explain matt's current issue with you.

[greygnarl]

Just click on my the wiki link belwo my name.

[guille2015]

Nah I kept track of claims closely yesterday. The neighborizer hasn't been claimed. I just don't think it should be either.

I thought it had been, but I guess I mistook it for something else. I think Neighborizer is an asset for mafia to join both mafia. You having admitted to having the first one means to me that you are likely not mafia. Some of the players should get enough money to outbid the neighborizer from mafia.

From the list of powers: Accountant and Bulletproof would be extremely helpful for town. Everything else is circumstantial. The Vote powers will likely come into play late in the game so out-winning mafia with them should be advantageous. Additionally, once claimed, they should be used early in the game to prevent the bearer to sneak one at the end of the game.

I don't think blind bid will be a problem. It should be claimed immediately though, so that we know if it falls in the hands of scum and therefore we could make appropriate response to it. It might have a different mechanic then last games, due to the bidding difference.

I don't particularly understand the wage part. It would seem that you send a target player receives an x amount of money. If this is the case, scum would certainly take advantage of this.

[guille2015]

I see no reason for Salamance to get the Bulletproof based on that plan of his. I do think the plan is good, but having BP is not a necessity. I'd rather have the bulletproof go to those that won the Watcher and Tracker powers, or some other important power.

[Tazaro]

Unless we get a vig on Elmo:

VOTE: Elmo

[StefanB]

Elmo dying is okay.
His only action day 1. Claiming investigation-imunue and biding on extra-vote. (This combo is yuck)
And basicly that's it. We need more Elmo.

We also need the cop and our replacment to show that they are allive.

About the plan, count me were you want me. I screwed up and I am okay with taking any action.

Peregrine
About Blind Bind: Can the one who wins it, choose to not use it, or is it compulsive?

[guille2015]

If Elmo dies his investigation immunity goes to scrap, which will mean that mafia cannot use it.

[guille2015]

VOTE: Elmo

[greygnarl]

Not liking Guille based on these posts. Really this day goes nowhere without Seanald. If he posts without claiming his cop move then he dies immediately.

[Voidedmafia]

In fact, I want bulletproof. Discuss.

And you're not a better recipient than:
-me, the doc who is a likely to die tonight to get rid of the doctor shot
-Seanald, the cop with one more shot left (who doesn't die until D3 after his results are outted, anyways)
-Slumber, Mehdi, Tammy, etc. who are obvtown and obvious NK choices

How?

Can you explain tomorrow? For now I'm just going with trust you, but I do want to have some vague idea of why.

Because, as you already know, I am a weak town player, but powerful with PRs. If I have a way to keep myself protected, I can become a thorn in the scum's side.

No matter your record, there's not garauntee of that.

If she neighborizes me I can then neighborize someone else and be a stream of info (assuming qt posts can be quoted the separate qts are close enough to being one qt with just a bit more work). I also would like to buy the neighborizer role for night 2, but I lack the money to win it over scum likely. Which is why whoever buys the neighborizer role tonight is the person I want to neighborize (anyone they neighborize can be added to that qt). I personally want SDB to have that power.

No I didn't get to talk to GB. Neighborhood qts aren't made until day start and with him dead I didn't get one.

A Neighbor ring (of sorts). I like that idea and endorse it.

Is there a reason we're not advocating the bulletproof going to someone more likely to die? Say the doctor or dabois?

Because I have a plan. I need bulletproof.

That still doesn't make you a better choice than Slumber/Mehdi, who I'm more inclined to give the BP to.

Unless they didn't transfer becasue GB was their recipient

Read on slumber is gut. (Also not sure where you get the initials SDP from.)

That's still circumstancial right now. I get that you don't trust him, but you're gonna need more than that to change my read, at least.

btw voided, tonight you are doccing whoever has the fattest wad to drop on the nk and ensure we get it.

And who's that right now?

If you are town, you need to trust me.

No I don't. I don't care how much you're going to cry "reasons," you're not a better BP target until I hear them.

YOU KNOW WHAT. IM PISSED.

I have medium.

I use medium on Mehdi and SPB.

...That doesn't change my mind at all. Nevermind why you didn't use it on GB.

/ragequit

Confirming SPB as town by killing him and then letting him talk for another day is so dumb.

Agreed.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw another game he replaced out of in the queue. I don't think he'd do it just because he was scum when he was looking forward to his game.

He does hate being scum. I do agree with you--he wouldn't replace out because of that--but I can imagine that it'd lower his will to play.

heeeeeyyyyyy mooooollllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I dun get it.

Are you saying you wouldn't die if you are indeed obvtown? Because last time I checked, that's why you die in mafia.

No, and I probably won't now because of WIFOM

Its one thing for obvtown to die.

It's something else to have obvtown INTENTIONALLY die just for you to be less of an idiot.

Peregrine
About Blind Bind: Can the one who wins it, choose to not use it, or is it compulsive?

i don't think it's compulsive. Which is good.

Not liking Guille based on these posts. Really this day goes nowhere without Seanald. If he posts without claiming his cop move then he dies immediately.

Have a point here.

(and this is why you don't put off these kind of things when there's 5 pages to get through.)

[greygnarl]

I'm not expecting anybody to agree with my distrust of slumber but taht no longer matters because, as I said, he just town slipped bigtime.

[PeregrineV]

Peregrine
About Blind Bind: Can the one who wins it, choose to not use it, or is it compulsive?

It doesn't say compulsive, but using it means no public updates to the auction bids. Only the owner of the blind bid can see the updates to auctions.

[PeregrineV]

This day is going on until everybody posts, esp. Seanald. But day started 43 hours ago, so prods not due until 29 hours. However, in this game where time=money, people need to bookmark or whatever and get in here.

GreyICE 2012-11-02 18:27:23 5 days 23 hours 62
Seanald 2012-11-02 17:09:44 6 days 0 hours 19
Eidolon 2012-11-02 13:58:02 6 days 3 hours 21
Pitty 2012-11-01 21:58:31 6 days 19 hours 18

[PeregrineV]

And if Grey was replaced, where's the new guy?

[Salamence20]

Seanald is avoiding. Eid is town so whatever.

[Pitty]

We're still getting our reads together, though we're both in favor of Elmo being lynched or vigged today.

Someone mentioned (at least I think someone did...) that all this talk about night actions is letting scum hide and be "town". As well and good as planning for tonight is, there's practically no scum hunting going on here besides for towniest players - which is probably why both of us have a huge town read on pretty much everyone who's been giving reads, and not just commenting on night plans.

That said, VOTE: Tazaro
No scum-hunting, every vote has been basically just because it was the lead wagon and very opportunistic. Rather curious how everyone got such a strong town read on him?


Mehdi, you still have one neighbourizor, correct? How would you feel using it on us tonight?

[Tazaro]

Which is one of the heads is you?

[Tazaro]

Ignore the first "is."

[Pitty]

We are one, and one are we... but that post in specific was Piggy.