Micro 66 - Robo's F11 (Game Over)

[TraceyLyn11]

Also the point about mutual buddying and mutual suspicion is stupid. Town can buddy town, town can suspect town. Flipping one doesn't clear the other; it also doesn't confirm the other as scum, either.

I wasn't saying otherwise. Hence the "it depends on the players". Of course it doesn't clear or confirm. But it can give us a step in the right direction.

hi tracey i put tons of effort into this shit
respond and explain how i am wrong
ty <3

Only for you. <3

I don't disagree with anything you said. I agree with your ending statement:

"lynch people because they are scum not because they draw connections"

. I was just pointing out that, in my opinion, due to the sheer lack of

game related posts

, PM has not said anything scummy. All of his posts have been apologizing for his activity, promising to do better, or the RQS/RVS if you count that. Therefore, I was looking at it from a "what we would gain" perspective. And we wouldn't gain anything. If PM was town, we just lost two town players (assuming the night kill went through). If he was scum, yeah, awesome, we're closer to winning. But we still have nothing to go off of. We'd be starting back from scratch. Whereas, if we lynch someone who actually has

game related posts

and is scummy, we'd be much better off. I offered Vio because I obviously think he's scum. Though, looking from a purely informative standpoint, anyone would be a better lynch than PM. I'd rather do as I said earlier: wait for a replacement, wait for him to get his act together, or make him a deadline lynch if needed. If he keeps this up into day two, then yeah, I don't want him around for LyLo. But at least waiting one more day to lynch him would give us some information related to the person we flip and possibly the night kill.

Nacho quick test combined with

seeing who votes for the lynch.

Why is it I always have my derp moments when you're in the game?

He was discussing reaction fishing - so yes.

I explained that to him.

"Why not? I certainly don't think Myst to be incapable of it, and I know he's trying to improve his play. One way to do so would be to start the game moving early in the game. I'm really confused as to why you think Myst couldn't (or wouldn't) reaction fish."

you better prove you got something exciting from it or I will hate you (more than I already do).

You hate me? What did I do to you?

And yes, I did get something exciting from it, but it will have to wait, until Nacho answers the question to, or refuses to do so. And yeah, this should have happened long ago:

Unvote

Vote: Pmyst

Someone who's playing exactly like their scum meta and unlike their town meta, deserves rope. I don't even know how Tracey and Mala convinced me to change my mind.

What a scummy jump onto the wagon.

[Thor665]

#Tracy with an 'e'

You derp more when I'm around because the beard saps the will of women - it is known.

Also, (and damn you Militos) in going back to look you're calling out the reaction fish thing on PM as a conclusion you have made yourself that he is changing his meta and playstyle...that *doesn't* seem like a stretch to you that you're making a call on him based off your presumption that he's changing how he plays?

[Mitillos]

@Thor: Call me Mit, for ease. And I'd rather have you at least skim through what's happened before, than just go from what happens from now on. Even if you dismiss it afterwards.

@Tracey: When I was the one who originally wanted people to vote PMyst, in hopes of getting him to actually say something, I don't think you can call my jump on his wagon scummy. Especially with his more recent posts. PMyst's play has been scummy throughout. Both in terms of direct scumminess, as well as his meta. And, if you believe that we will get no reads from his flip, you are wrong. Interaction goes two ways. It's not only what PMyst says, it's also who says things about him and what those things are. Think of it as the difference between outgoing and incoming interaction.

[TraceyLyn11]

@Thor: Oh, well as long as it's something that makes sense.

I'm not making a

presumption

. People have said he's trying to change, and he's said he's trying to change. Though that's not entirely significant. His trying to improve was only part of my reasoning. The other part was that I simply don't think he's incapable of reaction fishing. Anyone's capable of it - it's so easy. Now whether he would or wouldn't? I don't know. Which is why I brought up the aspect of him wanting to improve.

I'm not even going to read Mit's post right now. I've got so much to do before bed, and this game has consumed my attention for the last few hours. >_>

[Thor665]

Unvote: PMysterious
Vote: Tracy with an 'e'

Sorry Nacho...but I thinks I found teh reel scumz.

[Malakittens]

He's not trying to change, he's getting worse every game I play with him. His scum meta is becoming his town meta and his town meta is becoming his scum meta.
The only thing I found with his last scum game was he tried to get me into "agressive/defense" mode and I'm not sure if he did that to get others to jump on me or what.

[Malakittens]

I shoulda unvoted a long time ago, mah bad.

Unvote: Thor

Vote: CD

[Mitillos]

@Mod: How about a Riggs prod?

[Thor665]

Tracey, I called CD out for his vote on me and for his lack of scum hunting. He has tunneled me without really giving out other reads other than when asked. To me that is scummy.

He has provably not done that as regards his current Tracy with an 'e' suspicions.
Discuss.

[Malakittens]

Eh.

I just find it odd how he's not trying to build a counter-wagon on any of his scum reads. Instead he tries to "save" PM by voting his town read which is Tracey.
I found his hop horrible and an easy way to get onto the wagon.

[Robocopter87]

@Mod: How about a Riggs prod?

Done. (where are them pleases and thank yous)

[Thor665]

It does the prodding or it gets the hose again.

[Mitillos]

@Mod: Thank you. Most gracious of you.

[Robocopter87]

@Mod: Thank you. Most gracious of you.

Darn straight.

[TraceyLyn11]

He's not trying to change, he's getting worse every game I play with him. His scum meta is becoming his town meta and his town meta is becoming his scum meta.
The only thing I found with his last scum game was he tried to get me into "agressive/defense" mode and I'm not sure if he did that to get others to jump on me or what.

I'm just going off of what I was told. Either way, I still don't think it's impossible for him to be able to reaction fish. It really boils down to whether he would or not... And I've only seen one game of his. I don't think I'd be able to accurately answer that question.

@Mod: Thank you. Most gracious of you.

Darn straight

Damn skippy.

Fixed that for you.

[Malakittens]

You wouldn't.
I have played quite a few games with him. I have played two games as town when he was scum.
I haven't really ever saw him reaction fish as town or scum for that matter.

Did you see him reaction fish during F&I?

[TraceyLyn11]

You wouldn't.
I have played quite a few games with him. I have played two games as town when he was scum.
I haven't really ever saw him reaction fish as town or scum for that matter.

Did you see him reaction fish during F&I?

I don't think so. But as seen by my end of game thoughts, my memory of early game is pretty fuzzy.

[Malakittens]

Tracey why don't you see CD as scum?

[TraceyLyn11]

Tracey why don't you see CD as scum?

He's been asking questions, and he's been fairly honest. Not things that scream town, but I think they're town enough that I don't support the lynch.

[Nachomamma8]

It does the prodding or it gets the hose again.

i almost want to sheep you because of this
but then I would let obvscum walk, and that just sucks

[Thor665]

What read do you have on Tracy with an 'e'?

[TraceyLyn11]

Hi Thor. Talk to me. I'm bored. What are your thoughts on Vio and Mit?

[Malakittens]

Hi Tracey explain to me why you didn't wall during Ladies Night, but are walling here? If you are indeed town in both games why is there such a difference of a game style change?

I'm quite bored also, I got class in 2 hours and have nothing to do until then.

[Thor665]

Hi Thor. Talk to me. I'm bored. What are your thoughts on Vio and Mit?

No read on Violet, she hasn't posted in game yet.

Read on Milquetoast will vary depending on the PM flip considering how he's dancing about it. Other than that he's asking questions but I see no actual scumhunting yet - null leaning town or scum depending on how things flop.

[Malakittens]

Uh. Violet has posted quite a bit of content, how are you getting a no read on him?